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    I am 24 years old, i discovered pois when i was 17 years old, i am very confused regarding my category of pois, when i ejaculate i get
    • diarrhea ( sticky material inside my poop)
    • sorethroat (my tonsills swell)
    • nasal congestion
    • headache
    • fever
    • red eyes
    • sneezing (sometimes)
    • stiff joints
    • low energy
    • depression
    • anxiety
    • too much gas production , bloating (significantly reduced by garlic)
    • ibs & ibd condition (all the time  and severe in pois)
    • very severe memory loss and bad concentration

    and different sort of treatments work for me in different ways, i am confused how should i carry out with these,
    • minced garlic helps me in my symptoms (not in all)
    • B complex helps me in little bit energy
    • Prednisolone helps in reducing sore throat and nasal congestion
    • Nsaids i.e. nims tablet helps me in reducing body inflammation
    • antibiotics helps in reducing abdomen infection

    all these treatments were applied solely during different years , one by one, i didn't mix them, but now i don't know how should i mix them to get the whole benefit
i am also low in testosterone (269 ng/dl) and vitaming D3 was very low 30 points were required and i was on 11,
Note: i took fenugreek but it gives me reaction
i request senior members of the forum to help me in sorting out my condition

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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2023, 10:00:53 PM »
Hi MZ,
I think you should first ask your doctor to help you normalize your vitamin D level, and then ask him to help you find the regimen for keeping it normal.  Better Vit D level is not a cure in itself, but sure helped a lot of POIS sufferers to lower the intensity and duration of their symptoms.
In my case, I have aimed more to 40-45 ng/ml than 30, 30 being the low side of the target. It made and still makes a difference for me. 


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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2023, 10:01:48 PM »
Hi MZ,
I think you should first ask your doctor to help you normalize your vitamin D level ( 11 sounds very low), and then ask him to help you find the regimen for keeping it normal.  Better Vit D level is not a cure in itself, but sure helped a lot of POIS sufferers to lower the intensity and duration of their symptoms.
In my case, I have aimed more to 40-45 ng/ml than 30, 30 being the low side of the target. It made and still makes a difference for me.
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Re: ???? help me to understand my mixed and complicated Category of Pois
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2023, 02:28:39 AM »
Hi MZ,
I think you should first ask your doctor to help you normalize your vitamin D level, and then ask him to help you find the regimen for keeping it normal.  Better Vit D level is not a cure in itself, but sure helped a lot of POIS sufferers to lower the intensity and duration of their symptoms.
In my case, I have aimed more to 40-45 ng/ml than 30, 30 being the low side of the target. It made and still makes a difference for me.
How many vitamin D ius are normal in  a week, the doctor gave me 200000 ius in a week, after a month I was normal on vitamin D levels then he stopped treatment and after that (about 2 months) I am again low on vitamin D, kindly advise me to adjust the dosages to keeping it in normal range, the doctors here don't understand the condition fully

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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2023, 09:57:14 PM »

Hi MZ,
I think you should first ask your doctor to help you normalize your vitamin D level, and then ask him to help you find the regimen for keeping it normal.  Better Vit D level is not a cure in itself, but sure helped a lot of POIS sufferers to lower the intensity and duration of their symptoms.
In my case, I have aimed more to 40-45 ng/ml than 30, 30 being the low side of the target. It made and still makes a difference for me.
How many vitamin D ius are normal in  a week, the doctor gave me 200000 ius in a week, after a month I was normal on vitamin D levels then he stopped treatment and after that (about 2 months) I am again low on vitamin D, kindly advise me to adjust the dosages to keeping it in the normal range, the doctors here don't understand the condition fully

If you are living in a place where there is plenty of sunshine, and you are often outdoors with exposed skin to the sun, you need less.  If, like me, you live up north where summer is short and winter is long, you need more.  It is better to take a smaller dose of vit D every day than taking a huge dose once a month or once every 3 months. 


2000ui a day is a safe dose and a majority of people will hit the target with this dose.  Personally, I take 2500ui a day, the Jamieosn brand ( https://www.jamiesonvitamins.com/products/vitamin-d3-2-500-iu ),  After one year, I got my vitamin D tested, and it was at a good levelThe way to check your vit D level is to test for 25-OH-D level in the blood. There are two main scales to express the results,nmol/L and ng/ml,  so you have to be careful in what unit your blood test result is expressed. 

Many doctors will be happy if you get over 75 nmol/L ( 30 ng/ml), but many studies have now shown that 100 to 150 nmol/L (40 to 60 ng/ml) is a better target to get all the benefits for the immune system.  There is no toxicity at all at those levels, and people living in very sunny environments can naturally get a level of over 150 nmol/L ( 60 ng/ml), so 100 nmol/L (40 ng/ml) is really not a concern.
When someone has kept the same daily dosage for a few months and gets blood test results, his doctor usually will adjust the dose depending on the result.  If the result is too low, studies have shown that every 1000ui more a day will raise the 25(OH)D level by around 25 nmol/L ( 10 ng/ml).  Since not everybody absorbs vitamin D the same way, further blood tests will be necessary to evaluate the new dosage's results.

My last blood test showed that my 25-OH-D was at 108 nmol/L ( 43.2 ng/ml), and I was glad about it, so I kept my 2500ui per day dosage.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2023, 09:59:24 PM by Quantum »
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2023, 02:06:43 PM »
I am very thankful to this helpful forum, where we can seek guidance from senior members. Sometimes it's difficult for the poisers to search and look through the forum for the required information and we don't know how accurate it is , or if we are getting complete info or not. By simply asking the questions and getting replies from experienced members here. I am thankful to Quantum and all other members. Love you all for this forum  :)

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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2023, 07:31:11 PM »
I am very thankful to this helpful forum, where we can seek guidance from senior members. Sometimes it's difficult for the poisers to search and look through the forum for the required information and we don't know how accurate it is , or if we are getting complete info or not. By simply asking the questions and getting replies from experienced members here. I am thankful to Quantum and all other members. Love you all for this forum  :)
Thanks for your good words, mz !   :)
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2023, 06:22:58 AM »
I am very thankful to this helpful forum, where we can seek guidance from senior members. Sometimes it's difficult for the poisers to search and look through the forum for the required information and we don't know how accurate it is , or if we are getting complete info or not. By simply asking the questions and getting replies from experienced members here. I am thankful to Quantum and all other members. Love you all for this forum  :)
Thanks for your good words, mz !   :)


mz, I can’t thank you enough for expressing your appreciation for this forum representationally the way so many have expressed it before!

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TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

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Re: 🤒 help me to understand my mixed and complicated Category of Pois
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2023, 01:59:40 PM »
I am low on energy, I don't want to do any activity, fenugreek 350mg single dose lowers my blood pressure, I am unable to see though it's benefits, what should I try for low energy, previously I am on garlic and vitamin D, now what should I try,  as previously stated I am low in testosterone also. It's difficult for me to further continue with doctors as they charge a lot, I have been dealing with this condition for 7 years, I try everything taking precautionary steps, feel free to advise me any possible solution to raise my energy levels.

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Re: ???? help me to understand my mixed and complicated Category of Pois
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2023, 03:18:59 PM »
I am low on energy, I don't want to do any activity, fenugreek 350mg single dose lowers my blood pressure, I am unable to see though it's benefits, what should I try for low energy, previously I am on garlic and vitamin D, now what should I try,  as previously stated I am low in testosterone also. It's difficult for me to further continue with doctors as they charge a lot, I have been dealing with this condition for 7 years, I try everything taking precautionary steps, feel free to advise me any possible solution to raise my energy levels.

Here’s what significantly improved my energy levels in regards to POIS:

- removing foods that were inflaming my condition (pretty much all plant foods). Start off with gluten-free if you haven’t already, then I would try grain-free if that’s successful, then I would try Paul Saladino’s animal-based.
- adding red meat and eggs

These two components improved my energy levels significantly, and reduced the fatigue and weakness symptoms of my POIS condition. They worked for me. Diet is the biggest factor though. If I eat a regular diet, my symptoms are so severe the nutrients from red meat and eggs won’t override or really improve the catastrophic level of symptoms…

Everyone’s POIS is generally different as you know, so not saying these will work for everyone but the only thing I can do is give you the truth of what worked for me.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2023, 03:21:56 PM by Warrior »
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2023, 09:15:42 PM »
I am low on energy, I don't want to do any activity, fenugreek 350mg single dose lowers my blood pressure, I am unable to see though it's benefits, what should I try for low energy, previously I am on garlic and vitamin D, now what should I try,  as previously stated I am low in testosterone also. It's difficult for me to further continue with doctors as they charge a lot, I have been dealing with this condition for 7 years, I try everything taking precautionary steps, feel free to advise me any possible solution to raise my energy levels.

Here’s what significantly improved my energy levels in regards to POIS:

- removing foods that were inflaming my condition (pretty much all plant foods). Start off with gluten-free if you haven’t already, then I would try grain-free if that’s successful, then I would try Paul Saladino’s animal-based.
- adding red meat and eggs

These two components improved my energy levels significantly, and reduced the fatigue and weakness symptoms of my POIS condition. They worked for me. Diet is the biggest factor though. If I eat a regular diet, my symptoms are so severe the nutrients from red meat and eggs won’t override or really improve the catastrophic level of symptoms…

Everyone’s POIS is generally different as you know, so not saying these will work for everyone but the only thing I can do is give you the truth of what worked for me.

Which animal meat is red meat (buffalo, cow, goat , camel etc)?
How to cook this red meat? What spices we can use ? And what about the eggs ( half fried or boiled )?
 

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Re: ???? help me to understand my mixed and complicated Category of Pois
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2023, 04:10:46 PM »
I am low on energy, I don't want to do any activity, fenugreek 350mg single dose lowers my blood pressure, I am unable to see though it's benefits, what should I try for low energy, previously I am on garlic and vitamin D, now what should I try,  as previously stated I am low in testosterone also. It's difficult for me to further continue with doctors as they charge a lot, I have been dealing with this condition for 7 years, I try everything taking precautionary steps, feel free to advise me any possible solution to raise my energy levels.

Here’s what significantly improved my energy levels in regards to POIS:

- removing foods that were inflaming my condition (pretty much all plant foods). Start off with gluten-free if you haven’t already, then I would try grain-free if that’s successful, then I would try Paul Saladino’s animal-based.
- adding red meat and eggs

These two components improved my energy levels significantly, and reduced the fatigue and weakness symptoms of my POIS condition. They worked for me. Diet is the biggest factor though. If I eat a regular diet, my symptoms are so severe the nutrients from red meat and eggs won’t override or really improve the catastrophic level of symptoms…

Everyone’s POIS is generally different as you know, so not saying these will work for everyone but the only thing I can do is give you the truth of what worked for me.

Which animal meat is red meat (buffalo, cow, goat , camel etc)?
How to cook this red meat? What spices we can use ? And what about the eggs ( half fried or boiled )?

Beef, veal, lamb, mutton, pork, goat and venison. Pretty sure it’s all ruminant animals. I stick to beef and lamb as it’s most convenient and grass fed here in Australia.

I throw in whatever spices and herbs I want when cooking ground beef/lamb. I don’t notice any sensitivities, probably because the amount is so low in general.

Cook eggs however you want.
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Re: ???? help me to understand my mixed and complicated Category of Pois
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2023, 07:42:12 PM »
    I am 24 years old, i discovered pois when i was 17 years old, i am very confused regarding my category of pois, when i ejaculate i get
    • diarrhea ( sticky material inside my poop)
    • sorethroat (my tonsills swell)
    • nasal congestion
    • headache
    • fever
    • red eyes
    • sneezing (sometimes)
    • stiff joints
    • low energy
    • depression
    • anxiety
    • too much gas production , bloating (significantly reduced by garlic)
    • ibs & ibd condition (all the time  and severe in pois)
    • very severe memory loss and bad concentration

    and different sort of treatments work for me in different ways, i am confused how should i carry out with these,
    • minced garlic helps me in my symptoms (not in all)
    • B complex helps me in little bit energy
    • Prednisolone helps in reducing sore throat and nasal congestion
    • Nsaids i.e. nims tablet helps me in reducing body inflammation
    • antibiotics helps in reducing abdomen infection

    all these treatments were applied solely during different years , one by one, i didn't mix them, but now i don't know how should i mix them to get the whole benefit
i am also low in testosterone (269 ng/dl) and vitaming D3 was very low 30 points were required and i was on 11,
Note: i took fenugreek but it gives me reaction
i request senior members of the forum to help me in sorting out my condition

this is what i did, i was not able to suppress pois but i was successful in suppressing my libido to a point where i can have a healthy sex life but i can avoid orgasms unless they are really required and it saved my life, on top of it i suppress my pois with nasids and i keep my metabolism up with caffeine and ssri's i do this under medical supervision and keep myself in a healthy state, i try to avoid any unnecessary stress, physical or chemical, i take a multivitamin couple of times per week and iron, and i try to keep my mind sharp, if you cant fix your illness you should learn to live with it the best way possible and after years of trying to fix pois i have figured this is the best way for me until i find a cure, but this does mean you will have to compromise somethings in life and you have to avoid stress.

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2023, 05:21:56 PM »
hello gzbking,
actually my problem is that I have severe form of premature ejaculation and ed, whenever I have sexual thoughts I just need to think and a little bit stimulate to ejaculate, I ejaculate within 2 sec, I don't know in this condition how to avoid orgasms, sometimes I don't even touch my Pen... it releases sperms, the condition is too hard for me to manage

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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2023, 05:22:20 AM »
hello gzbking,
actually my problem is that I have severe form of premature ejaculation and ed, whenever I have sexual thoughts I just need to think and a little bit stimulate to ejaculate, I ejaculate within 2 sec, I don't know in this condition how to avoid orgasms, sometimes I don't even touch my Pen... it releases sperms, the condition is too hard for me to manage

my regimen actually increased by ejaculation time so idk, do whatever is best for you and with advice of your doctor

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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2023, 07:07:21 AM »
I am low on energy, I don't want to do any activity, fenugreek 350mg single dose lowers my blood pressure, I am unable to see though it's benefits, what should I try for low energy, previously I am on garlic and vitamin D, now what should I try,  as previously stated I am low in testosterone also. It's difficult for me to further continue with doctors as they charge a lot, I have been dealing with this condition for 7 years, I try everything taking precautionary steps, feel free to advise me any possible solution to raise my energy levels.

i am sharing my experience of energy problems here, initially i tried ssri's for it cause i was too sleepy and i was treated for depression and it did help, but it did not fix the problem and i took it for 2 years to a point i was addicted but it did not do much for my fatigue.

then when i got very ill and was on etodolac, ssri started to work for a bit i use to get less fatigued when i used both, when i only used etodolac or nasid my recovery was slow, but using both it was actually fast, ssri alone dont work for whatever reason.

to this i added caffeine again same like before alone caffeine never worked for me before using either of these 2 meds, but when i used caffeine again while using these drugs it worked like a charm and my recovery time from pois fatigue was in hours instead of days, i actually had more energy then i knew what to do with.

to this i added vitamins and iron which i had a deficiency of and again these things did not worked on there on before i had taken all kinds of supplements but using all these at the same time made me invincible to a point i was out all the time, this is bizarre for me, i had failed at life before this but these things just worked maybe its gods doing or these things actually work idk.

they dont work alone and they dont work if i have a full blown pois storm ie if i masturbate couple of times everyday for a couple of days, they stop working then but if i control my pois to only a couple of time a month and use them in combination i become a different person although i try to avoid ssri's nsaids cause they may not be good in long run but they help in combination its so bizarre none of them do much individually and for a while i really hoped only one of them was actually causing my recovery but i have tried most combinations only one regimen works and it only works in a very specific way for me but it does for whatever reason

again talk to your doctor before using any of these medications these can be dangerous and life threatening

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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2023, 08:41:01 AM »
Well i am having an idea, tell me if its done already, otherwise how it will be if this whole pois forum content should be given to chat gpt for making predictions, it should be trained on it, in this way it will be easy for users to ask gpt and get relevant content rather than searching the forum day and night

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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2023, 11:09:26 PM »
Well i am having an idea, tell me if its done already, otherwise how it will be if this whole pois forum content should be given to chat gpt for making predictions, it should be trained on it, in this way it will be easy for users to ask gpt and get relevant content rather than searching the forum day and night
Hi mz,
please read this thread : https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3776.0


AI Chatbots are not the best for topics where information is rare and, for example, for medical conditions having no definite treatments.  As for predictions, AI will be good if there are clear and definite known parameters to make predictions that are available on the net, like physics law equations.  But there is no such knowledge for the POIS puzzle, and any prediction by an AI chatbot, in my opinion, would be as good as its predictions about what stocks will go up on the Markets next week - that is, pure speculations.  Ai is developing rapidly but is very dependent on what knowledge humanity already has and has shared on the web.  And, do not forget, AI chatbots still, from time to time, return answers that are called "hallucinations" - well-written answers, that sound good, but that are false and not based on anything true.   

Maybe your expectations are too high for the current state of development of AI. It would be better to use the search function as explained in the link given above, for a more productive time spent browsing this forum.
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2023, 10:02:16 PM »
Well i am having an idea, tell me if its done already, otherwise how it will be if this whole pois forum content should be given to chat gpt for making predictions, it should be trained on it, in this way it will be easy for users to ask gpt and get relevant content rather than searching the forum day and night
Hi mz,
please read this thread : https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3776.0


AI Chatbots are not the best for topics where information is rare and, for example, for medical conditions having no definite treatments.  As for predictions, AI will be good if there are clear and definite known parameters to make predictions that are available on the net, like physics law equations.  But there is no such knowledge for the POIS puzzle, and any prediction by an AI chatbot, in my opinion, would be as good as its predictions about what stocks will go up on the Markets next week - that is, pure speculations.  Ai is developing rapidly but is very dependent on what knowledge humanity already has and has shared on the web.  And, do not forget, AI chatbots still, from time to time, return answers that are called "hallucinations" - well-written answers, that sound good, but that are false and not based on anything true.   

Maybe your expectations are too high for the current state of development of AI. It would be better to use the search function as explained in the link given above, for a more productive time spent browsing this forum.

Quantum,  splendid  discussion  of  the
state-of-the-art of this technology revival!
« Last Edit: October 24, 2023, 12:48:12 AM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2024, 11:04:43 AM »
From one and a half month ago , my blood pressure started to rise , it's directly proportional to the amount of sperm released, if i release more sperm it goes out of control and reaches 170/100 , and my heart beat races, feet become cold , i feel dizzy , these conditions were not present before , i don't know how they came in ,
Actually I took a homeopathic medicine namely (stramonium) of 200 potency 4 drops first day and then 4 drops third day
after that day i am feeling the above symptoms every time my sperms are released, i don't know what it did to my body , I am stuck in this condition, What should i do ? Plz answer this post your answers will be very helping to me

(Note: I took antidote of the medicine after a week but it didn't do any good)