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Re: This may seem like a familar place.
« Reply #580 on: January 16, 2013, 11:11:55 PM »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #582 on: January 17, 2013, 06:12:55 PM »



It's January 2013, and the format of this forum is going to change.

There is a growing group dedicated to home remedies and theories which heavily undermine donation progress for TRUE Research.

It seems there are two good options for discussing these home remedies, which historically have lead to very little true progress, either producing
relief for only a few or producing waves of hope in a new and promising direction, that eventually fail, because the cure is not aimed at the cause
but at the relief of symptoms.

We all want relief of symptoms, and many herbal and OTC compounds have proven to be helpful to varying degrees to some, but the intense focus in
finding a remedy based on symptomology such does NOT get to the mechanism that stops POIS forever, nor is consistent for all.

We do not want to sell false hope nor lead users down dead end streets especially at the risk of furthering the damage to their systems just to
increase our member base.

This forum is not a playland. We would like our members to have a place to share their suffering and potential remedies, but not at the expense
of deviating from the main intent of desperately seeking real professional research and resolving the POIS puzzle.

This requires HIGHLY EXPERIENCED MEDICAL RESEARCHERS. It is NOT possible for untrained inexperienced individuals to resolve this
very complicated issue. Attempts at this are irresponsible and dangerous. Real research requires specific specialized and heavily experienced professionals
with decades of experience.

NSF and "Feellalike.com" are open and willing to risk amateur medical research. There are few controls and restrictions, the activity is even encouraged.

If you are willing to take the risks and lose valuable time and have your hopes dashed time and again, these may be ideal locations for you to experiment.

We bowed to the pressure, for a time, trying to maintain a collective in the hopes that we could finally achieve the professional research necessary, but
the risks are too high, so we have made the choice to focus in professional research.

As it is, with such heavy redirection of hope in unsupported theories, we will probably not make the March deadline, and will require at least another year
to raise the rest of the funds. So we feel that a slight interruption at this point in our change of focus will have little negative impact.

Our focus will move primarily to research funding efforts, companionship, sharing of potential useful symptomatic remedies, but there will be NO MORE
DISCUSSION of supposed theories for POIS cures.


We, none of us here are trained for it.

We will moderate this new approach strongly.

Feel free to visit sites who permit uncontrolled research and are willing to flagrantly promote false hopes. And good luck.

If we remain with just three members who are dedicated and intent on rolling up their sleeves to go this last mile, we need nothing more.




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TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #583 on: January 17, 2013, 06:22:17 PM »


10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #584 on: January 17, 2013, 06:31:43 PM »


We need $4,000+ before this March 22.

We cannot afford to wait another year!

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TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

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Re: This may seem like a familar place.
« Reply #585 on: January 17, 2013, 08:43:50 PM »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #586 on: January 18, 2013, 06:59:20 AM »


We need $4,000+ before this March 22.

We cannot afford to wait another year!


So close, any ideas welcome. Promos, whatever. 2 months flies by.

WITHOUT RESEARCH THERE WILL BE NO CURE!
Sessions 5 to 9 days, mostly Flu-like, joints, digestion problems, light cognitive.
Niacin has changed my lif though, now 1 day MAX.
Somewhere in this interaction with Niacin is the answer!

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #587 on: January 18, 2013, 07:02:40 AM »
Perhaps as a refresh, you could take a tour of these threads about donating. Procedures, mechanism, structure etc. etc. Questions and answers.

http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?board=22.0
WITHOUT RESEARCH THERE WILL BE NO CURE!
Sessions 5 to 9 days, mostly Flu-like, joints, digestion problems, light cognitive.
Niacin has changed my lif though, now 1 day MAX.
Somewhere in this interaction with Niacin is the answer!

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #588 on: January 18, 2013, 08:22:04 AM »
Thanks, Daveman!
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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #589 on: January 18, 2013, 08:24:16 AM »


We need $4,000+ before this March 22.

We cannot afford to wait another year!


So close, any ideas welcome. Promos, whatever. 2 months flies by.



Maybe someone or a group or institution could put up the $4,000 as a loan we pay back?

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #590 on: January 18, 2013, 08:29:05 AM »


OUR "FINAL HOME $TRETCH!"



Let'$ go, POI$ Team!

We only need.......about $4,000 more!!

On average, that's only $71 per day between now and March 22!




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« Reply #591 on: January 18, 2013, 08:43:24 AM »

Please visit our NORD Funding
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62 days to go!

As Daveman says, 2 months can FLY by. Let's capture the moment!
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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #592 on: January 18, 2013, 09:38:58 AM »
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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #593 on: January 18, 2013, 05:21:06 PM »

Thanks for today's confidential  Donation$!
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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #594 on: January 18, 2013, 07:52:54 PM »

Thanks for today's confidential  Donation$!

Hello, Everyone,

I just feel compelled to say that I AM AMAZED!!!!

The amount of money you've raised -- especially considering the anonymity factor -- is absolutely astonishing!

What a terrific and inspiring group of men you are -- I say that from the bottom of my heart.

You men are going to do it!!!

(And you are keeping NORD's Accounting Department on its toes. Without question -- you are the most active research fund there.)

Here's to conquering this misererable demon! POIS has found its antidote in all of you who have kept the faith and refused to give in to those thoughts that we all have in many situations  -- those doubts, those worries, the "why bother?" thoughts.

And your moderators -- with their nerves of steel -- are absolute blessings. :-)  They've not been afraid to face possible failure (which will not happen!) or to cope with doubting forum members.  They have  both stood in their light -- all the way through.

What a fantastic group you all make!   BE PROUD!

Stef


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« Reply #595 on: January 18, 2013, 10:49:21 PM »
"Thank you" seems so inadequate, Stef!

You are The Rip Roaring Best in my book!

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Re: This may seem like a familar place.
« Reply #597 on: January 18, 2013, 11:03:47 PM »
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TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #598 on: January 18, 2013, 11:34:39 PM »
What is more important than curing your POIS??????


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Its important to note that, even if someone finds an effective treatment tomorrow, there would still be more research to be done. There's not much danger of the research fund going to waste even if someone has a sudden breakthrough. We'd still need to know why the treatment works. (eg. niacin helps some sufferers but we don't know why). We don't know the underlying cause of POIS and I suspect it could be slightly different, in different groups of people (eg something different could be going on in those who have muscle aches and sweats to those who don't). We don't know how prevalent POIS is. There are so many questions to answer beyond finding an effective treatment/cure (although that of course is what we need as soon as possible). This is the tip of the iceberg. Its an opportunity to pave the way not only for our own future health but for everyone who suffers POIS in future. And to raise the profile of POIS to reach those who haven't found our forums yet and to inform their doctors so they recognise the symptoms. As Porke said recently, we are pioneers. No one's going to do it for us, at least not with any urgency. So we have to push this on ourselves.

10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business