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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1760 on: August 25, 2016, 04:17:24 AM »

Quote from: Limejuice on August 24, 2016, 02:22:26 PM
...[Quantum, you make] understanding medical particulars easier for non-medical people :)

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1761 on: August 25, 2016, 04:24:21 AM »

Quote from: Limejuice on August 24, 2016, 02:22:26 PM
...[Quantum, you make] understanding medical particulars easier for non-medical people :)

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1762 on: August 25, 2016, 06:42:48 PM »
Oldie But Goodie:

"Brain Activation during Human Male Ejaculation"
Gert Holstege et al
http://psych.stanford.edu/~knutson/ans/holstege03.pdf





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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1763 on: August 26, 2016, 05:25:44 AM »
Quote from: demografx on August 04, 2016, 05:54:00 PM
Yahoo! general audience publication article about POIS from 2015:

"The Crazy Reason This Man Never Wants To Orgasm"
By Amy Rushlow
https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/the-crazy-reason-this-man-never-wants-to-orgasm-110191674787.html

I just saw this. A pretty good report. Our forum is even mentioned. She has Dr. Waldinger as prime reference, but I guess up to now, he is just about the only who has done a published study.
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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1764 on: August 26, 2016, 12:08:27 PM »
Thanks, Daveman.
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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1765 on: August 30, 2016, 04:25:35 PM »
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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1766 on: September 01, 2016, 02:27:15 PM »
Quantum I saw a mention of things that make POIS worse in your thread, so I want to contribute. I'll put it here, not sure if or where it should go in the other thread.

As most know, I'm a niacin type, but probably beyond that I'm a Viagra type (both are vaso-dilators. The combo, very carefully taken, all but eliminates my POIS. Often completely prevents it.

But A few things I found that make it worse:
  Any ingestion, food, alcohol, anything but water, closer than 8 hours from orgasm worsen POIS logrithmically as the fasting time declines.
  Since Niacin is a vitamin, during the time that vitamins were all the rage here I tried multi-vitamins daily and my POIS got worse, at least canceling out the Niacin
  Smoking MMJ before worsens my POIS considerably. (if it's taken after though it helps quite a bit - like several hours after) go figure.

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1767 on: September 02, 2016, 08:00:28 AM »
Thanks a lot., Daveman !  I will transfer these information in my POIS types chart.   I felt the "POIS worsened by" section of the chart would useful to develop, because when something worsens POIS, it clearly acts on a process or something in the body that is POIS-related, so knowing about all these different triggers will eventually lead to something meaningful.

I think this process is already bringing some elements into light, like the timing of eating vs the timing of ejaculation.  You bring this point, and lately, it was also talked about regarding NE  ( at least two members talked about higher probabilities for a NE when eating late in evening).   With time, this detail may reveal something important about POIS.

For now, i will gather all that data in the chart, so we can get a general overview, and hoepfully, we will start to see links and patterns.

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1768 on: September 25, 2016, 01:26:42 PM »




THE OFFICIAL 2016 MEDICAL


PROFESSION'S REACTION


TO POIS :)


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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1769 on: September 25, 2016, 03:26:48 PM »
:D :D
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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1770 on: September 25, 2016, 07:03:17 PM »
XD is this really the reaction you got ?
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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1771 on: September 25, 2016, 07:23:01 PM »
MirkoThiel0, it's just a tongue-in-cheek joke.

Most POISers experience misery at the hands of most doctors -- doctors who are simply clueless about POIS :)


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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1772 on: September 25, 2016, 10:56:27 PM »



"What? POIS??? Huh?"


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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1773 on: October 11, 2016, 10:38:32 AM »
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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1774 on: October 11, 2016, 03:33:09 PM »


When Dr Komisaruk's POIS study is finally published, I'm sure we'll have a flurry/flood of articles like the above!

More good stuff that you can show your doctor (who is prolly confused about what's wrong with you!)


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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1775 on: October 12, 2016, 07:26:48 PM »
Hello everyone, how are you? I see that you continue working very hard on this forum, demografx. Everyone should thank you for your continuous effort.

Quantum, have you already finished your "POIS type" chart? It would be an amazing resource, that's for sure!

Well, I am here again. I check this forum and the nakedscientistforum from time to time, and also try to maintain a constant relationship with some POIS sufferers. I had actually the opportunity to meet one of our chilean forum members in Chile, but we both missed the chance to meet Daveman there. Unfortunately, I had to go back to my home country sooner than I expected, and re-arrange my original schedule. I don't rule out to see them in the future and organize a proper meeting!!

Just a quick update. I got the feeling that my POIS is changing somehow. It's hard for me to get the brain fog again, but I have been getting more anxiety in exchange. The other symptoms don't seem to go away (irritability, clumsy, diminished social skills, etc). The good news is that I get rid of all of them if I use niacine before O., as you know.

In this regard, I have been trying to limit this niacin use, since I got a mild form of psoriasis (considering my family's background, that was to be expected)... and I have a strong suspicion that is related to niacin/POIS. The problem has not gotten worse, though, and I feel that is not a major issue, but I should keep an eye on it.

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1776 on: October 12, 2016, 08:46:09 PM »
Hi Observer,

Thanks for your positive comment about my POIS types chart.  In order to add information to it, I need input from members.

I try to bring to light what would be characteristic of each types, but I would need more members sharing their information for each group  ( If I have only one member in a type of POIS, it is hard to draw any conclusion).

It looks like your POIS is becoming more similar to mine.  I never had any brain fog or other cognitive problems, but a truck load of anxiety and other emotional problems, like irritability, mood swings, and the like.  That is why I came with my hypothesis on the kynurenine pathways enhancement in the brain, by immune upregulation.  I have proposed that those who have cognitive problems are suffering from kynurenic acid toxicity, and those having emotional problems are suffering from quinolinic acid toxicity, both substances being produced by a hacking of the tryptophan pathways toward kynurenine, but taking a different path depending of one's metabolic specifics.   Rosemary extract is good for me, and I think it is beneficial because it blocks an enzyme called IDO that leads to quinolinic acid production.  If my hypothesis is right, rosamary extract and other IDO inhibitors should be good for those with lots of emotional symptoms.

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1777 on: October 13, 2016, 01:23:31 AM »

Welcome back, Observer!

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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1778 on: October 13, 2016, 09:22:20 AM »
Quote from: demografx on October 13, 2016, 01:23:31 AM

Welcome back, Observer!

Thanks demografx!

It's very interesting what you said Quantum. You know, I was so overwhelmed by cognitive symptoms before, that I didn't have time to think about the other emotional issues that flare up with POIS. I should definitely try this Rosemary extract to see if it works, as I have somehow limited my niacin dosage.

I would share the results with you. Are you using a particular brand?
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Re: This may seem like a familiar place.
« Reply #1779 on: October 13, 2016, 04:47:09 PM »
Hi Observer,

Personally, I use rosemary essential oil ( brand Aromaforce, from A.Vogel), 2 to 3 drops in a glass of water, stirring well before drinking.  But rosemary essential oil have a camphor-like taste, so it may be not acceptable to everybody.  But I get good results with it and the taste is ok for me.  If it was not, I would use rosemary extract in capsuled powder (  like this: http://www.vitacost.com/solaray-rosemary-leaf-extract-275-mg-45-vegetarian-capsules ), but I find the essential oil more efficient, the brand I use is made from the whole plant, so there may be more in it than just rosmarinic acid ( the IDO inhibitor) that is helpful for me.



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