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JayDeeSee

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Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« on: November 14, 2021, 06:03:16 PM »
Long time lurker and first time poster here. This may be long, but I'll keep it as short as possible...

So I've been suffering from this curse for as long as I can remember. I've tried countless supplements and tried addressing numerous theories including methylation, deficiencies, etc, you know them all. A lot of things like taurine, niacin, NSAIDs, etc, didn't help at all. I've noticed the supplements that did help me seemed to address the problems with inflammation and blood/blood circulation like omega 3s, methyl folate and B12, garlic oil. I will say that Ive been a lifelong sufferer of airborne allergies as well, and am all too familiar with what they do to the lungs and throat.
Now I bring that up because I feel like I've made a huge realization...

My current hypothesis is that orgasm causes an inflammation response in the body, but for my purposes here, it affects the lungs, and that lung inflammation reduces absorption of oxygen and that lowered oxygen level is at the core of this disease, at least for me.

I've always noticed a heaviness in my chest, phlegm in chest and throat, deep gravely voice, and a constant shortness of breath. I never paid much attention to it until a few days ago after I O'ed I had the same chest reaction and tried doing very long, deep, holding breaths to try to counteract that. And it helped, noticeably. So I O'ed again this morning and immediately started looking for changes in lung behavior and sure enough I immediately got the all the same lung changes that also happen when I encounter high doses of airborne allergens like dense pet dander and bug spray... The same reactions I now realize happen after orgasm.

Trouble absorbing oxygen can explain so many of the symptoms of this disease. The fatigue, lowered stamina, achy and weak muscles and joints, cognitive problems, shortness of breath... These can all be explained by lowered levels of oxygen. One thing that always happens to me in a POIS state is a certain feeling in my eyes. A Google search of lower oxygen level's effects on the eyes revealed this..."blurred vision, burning, excessive tearing and a scratchy feeling, almost like there is sand in the eye". This EXACTLY PERFECTLY describes how my eyes feel.

As I said, I've been doing really long, deep breaths as much as possible to get my oxygen into my blood and so far it's been helping. I'll continue to update as I build on this hypothesis.

My hope is to get ideas about this from others and see if anybody else wants to try their own experiments.

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Re: Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2021, 07:15:09 PM »

…lowered oxygen level is at the core of this disease, at least for me…


This might explain my recent POIS improvement with my new CPAP machine.




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Re: Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2021, 08:28:07 PM »
I guess I should say since I realize now that I'm having what feels like an allergy attack like reaction in my lungs, what can be done to address that and how can I get more oxygen into my system? I've been taking antihistamines my whole life so I know that those don't help.

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Re: Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2021, 12:32:25 PM »
Ever since my POIS started, I get immensely short of breath just from running a couple of minutes or going up the stairs. This doesn't happen to anybody my age, the difference is extremely noticeable, and it was my first symptom ever, it appeared even before the adverse reactions after orgasm. I don't suffer from any known allergy, the only thing that was wrong with my health at the time was that I was recovering from 4 months of diarrhea due to my soy intolerance, that I wasn't yet aware of. It was almost as if the inflammation of the intestines had spread to the lungs somehow. No idea how to explain it, but I'm sure it was the thing that started it all.
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Re: Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2021, 12:34:06 PM »
Has anybody here ever measured their O2 saturation in blood using an oximeter? I'm planning on buying one of those easy-to-use ones that can be put on a fingertip and measure pulse and oxygen saturation.
25-year-old Spanish woman with POIS symptoms for the last 12 years.
Suffering from exercise intolerance since April 2020.
My case thread, with medical tests results.

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Re: Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2021, 01:59:16 PM »
Ever since my POIS started, I get immensely short of breath just from running a couple of minutes or going up the stairs. This doesn't happen to anybody my age, the difference is extremely noticeable

Same happens to me. The shortness of breath is nonstop in a POIS state and I get winded very easily and my muscles scream to stop. This is definitely a need for oxygen. Outside of POIS I have pretty good endurance since I work out regularly and stay active.  I noticed there's a heavy overlap between how I feel during an acute airborn allergy attack and during POIS. Even taking a deep breath triggers a strong need to cough. Could this be evidence for the allergy theory?

Has anybody here ever measured their O2 saturation in blood using an oximeter? I'm planning on buying one of those easy-to-use ones that can be put on a fingertip and measure pulse and oxygen saturation.
 

This definitely needs to be tested. I feel it should be worn during both rest and physical activity.
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Re: Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2021, 01:43:59 PM »
Has anybody here ever measured their O2 saturation in blood using an oximeter? I'm planning on buying one of those easy-to-use ones that can be put on a fingertip and measure pulse and oxygen saturation.

I'm above 98% most of the time

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Re: Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2021, 05:35:44 PM »
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Has anybody here ever measured their O2 saturation in blood using an oximeter? I'm planning on buying one of those easy-to-use ones that can be put on a fingertip and measure pulse and oxygen saturation.

I'm always around 98-99%. When I take some extra deep breaths or jump up and down a few times it quickly reaches to 99%. I havn't evaluated the saturation during POIS state though, but I have a feeling it's not diffrent then either. Perhaps POIS affects the lungs in other ways then just changing the O2 saturation. My mom has bronchitis (had a horrible cought) and O2 saturation of 89-95% but that does not have any hughe noticable health impacts. When we installed a ultrasound humidifier and put colloidal silver into it, the cough almost disappeared over one night though. Dont know if it has changed the O2 though.

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Re: Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2021, 08:21:07 PM »
Has anybody here ever measured their O2 saturation in blood using an oximeter? I'm planning on buying one of those easy-to-use ones that can be put on a fingertip and measure pulse and oxygen saturation.

I just ordered one and will use it during different stages of POIS.

I've been doing a whole lot of deep breathing exercises this time and this has been one of the easiest POIS periods I can remember. How much of a dip in oxygen level could cause such a severe reaction? I'm sure an inflammation response would contribute to the symptoms too.

I also tried menthol cough drops and I feel like those helped some. I'm planning on getting one of those OTC asthma inhalers and trying that too.
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Re: Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2021, 05:50:08 AM »
There are also salt-inhalators that are suppose to help the lungs.

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Re: Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2021, 02:34:03 AM »
Quick update...

Still doing my deep breathing exercises and my symptoms are enormously improved. Sometimes I don't notice any symptoms at all except for the lung issues, but these lung issues are now more apparent because there aren't any stronger symptoms to cover it up.

I'm currently at the end of the third POIS day (my symptoms last 3 days, the third day usually being the worst), I've felt good all day until recently when my lungs felt like the inflammation spiked. I'm having frequent deep coughs like my lungs are desperately trying to get the air out, short quick breaths, and my chest feels like it wants to cave in. I got an blood oxygen saturation reader and put it on for a few minutes and it fluctuated a lot, mostly sitting around 95-97%, but at one point dipped as low as 89% (I did have to wait til I got home to get it and by that point felt like I was starting to improve).  Still not much symptoms other than the lung issues.  I'm starting to think it's prolonged oxygen issues that cause my problems since my symptoms don't come on right away.

I'll continue to update. I'd like to if anybody has tried the deep breathing exercises and what they did for you.

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Re: Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2021, 06:28:14 AM »
Second day of POIS (NE) here now and the oxymeter shows 98% on right finger and 99% on left.

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Re: Lung inflammation / reduced absorption of oxygen
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2021, 04:08:18 PM »
Second day of POIS (NE) here now and the oxymeter shows 98% on right finger and 99% on left.

What are your POIS symptoms?

I've only used the reader through one POIS episode so far and the symptoms were very mild but even then my blood oxygen sat at around 95%. Doing deep breathing exercises would quickly bring it up to 98-99%. Now that I'm out of POIS it gives a consistent 98-99%. I'll have to use it again when I'm having worse symptoms, especially shortness of breath.