Warrior's Diary (POIS solution & general info)

[warrioronthetrot]

Warrior's (r/tteezzkk) POIS solution and general info

Supplement stack & lifestyle habits which is 97%+ effective at reducing my POIS:

• Fenugreek dry seed extract pill 1000mg [Nature's Own] (take 1 hour before and immediately after, fixes POIS mental symptoms)
• Fresh raw minced garlic, let it sit for 5-10 min before consuming (improves POIS physical symptom of fatigue)
• Vitamin B Complex "LifeExtention Complete B-Complex" (B complex + methyl B12 give my incredible mental health/motivation)
  
• Eggs, liver, & meat especially
• Just eat real food (JERF) -- organs, muscle meat, shellfish, small fish, vegetables, fruit, nuts, seeds, etc. For general health, I supplement zinc, vitamin c, vitamin d, and magnesium.
• Gluten-free if viable. I've noticed going gluten-free seems to improve physical energy after ejaculation compared to when I eat gluten. I don't eat gluten-free however because I find it too restricting for my athletic goals.
• Strenuous exercise (general health maintenance)

Temporary 2 hour post-orgasm light POIS buildup phase (when solution is taken afterwards and not before)
Matcha green tea can help in these transient circumstances. Solution still works highly effectively if I take the fenugreek and garlic after orgasm instead of before, but it usually comes with this POIS building up feeling which lasts less than 2 hours. Whereas when taken before, it gives your body a chance to digest the fenugreek and garlic, extracting the benefits beforehand in anticipation of the orgasm.

Additional notes:
** After dicing/mincing raw garlic, wait 5-10 minutes for optimal amount of allicin to form. Coat it in a generous amount of honey to swallow with milk (removes unpleasant taste of garlic from your mouth)
** If the clove is very large, cut a half or 1/3 of it to ingest, toss the rest. A big full clove is unnecessary and will probably make you stink
** Be careful of consuming too much garlic, as it will leak out of your pours and stink. Wear nice natural deodorant/cologne
** Garlic pills suck compared to fresh raw minced garlic. Use raw minced garlic as a minimum when testing this
** Solution works before OR after, but it is more effective taking it beforehand to 'prime' your body for the orgasm. Ideally I take it before AND after.

Gonna experiment with eating organs.

Frequent ejaculations still drain my energy and vigour for life overall. The difference is that no matter how many times I ejaculate the effects are not chronic like they were with POIS.


Began testing this method on 07/07/21. Which marks just over 7 months of success at the time of this edit.

My old POIS symptoms (thankfully a thing of the past):
Born in 2000. POIS began when I was around 17-18ish (never had it before then). Symptoms included generalised anxiety (which created & intensified social anxiety), intense physical fatigue, brainfog, agitation, for at least 3-5 days depending on severity. These became exponentially worst the more I ejaculated in a short period of time. I would need to do 20 days of abstinence in order to ejaculate and not experience POIS.

Personal POIS TODO list: See POIS doctor IRL for general check up (Sydney POIS specialist doctor).

Garlic pills are better than nothing, but they suck compared to fresh raw minced garlic
Garlic pills are a decent substitute for the pungency of raw garlic... kinda. Tested using Thompson's Garlic Perles & Australian NaturalCare Garlic Pills with fenugreek dry seed exact and experienced significant reduction of POIS by 70% however raw garlic remains to be much more reliable and potent. Raw garlic gives me insane levels of clarity and energy (a reality where I am thriving) compared to garlic pills, albeit the garlic pills are still effective to some extent (they definitely reduce the dread of POIS, anxiousness, and severe fatigue). However I still experience a low level brain fog and lower energy levels compared to raw garlic - my body feels "full" and alive after eating raw garlic, and my sensory clarity is insane!

Links to my old posts (Note: Most up to date personal info & POIS solution is on THIS post)

• Overwhelming Success with Fenugreek & Garlic
• Testing Garlic Pills Effectiveness Compared to Raw Garlic
• My POIS story 

[Clues]

Thanks for posting. Lots of interesting stuff in your reddit post especially, thanks for that.

[warrioronthetrot]

Some updates.

Got covid 4-5 days ago. Symptoms have been rather mild - just a flemmy throat and some minor body aches. I am double vaccinated with pfizer. 99% sure I got it from a nightclub in Sydney. Following day I nutted twice. POIS solution still holding up very well. I am now experimenting with a ketogenic diet.

Edit: Been about a week since I broke self isolation. My sense of taste/smell has certainly suffered (long-covid symptom I believe). Apart from that everything was sweet!

Edit 2: Been just under a month since contracting covid. Sense of taste/smell came back a week or two ago. 

[warrioronthetrot]

Bought a garlic mincer, and oh man.

This bad boy. https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/koncis-garlic-press-stainless-steel-60173564/

Recommend to those who take garlic for POIS 

[BoneBroth]

warrioronthetrot: I've used that bad boy for years. Wonder if the allicin is forming as much when you squeeze the garlic as when you are cutting it.
Do you take the raw garlic every day as maintenance or just before and after O?

[warrioronthetrot]

warrioronthetrot: I've used that bad boy for years. Wonder if the allicin is forming as much when you squeeze the garlic as when you are cutting it.
Do you take the raw garlic every day as maintenance or just before and after O?

I think it would form just as much allicin. It minces it very thoroughly. I also still let it sit there (as a ball of minced garlic) for 5-10 minutes.

I take garlic and fenugreek on days I O, whether that be after or beforehand. Beforehand is always ideal but it still works if I just take it afterwards.

I will also take it on days I experience what I call POIS residue, which only happens when I ingest lectins.

[warrioronthetrot]

No longer on lectin-free diet. Garlic & fenugreek solution still holding up. Proof that fenugreek and garlic is the root solution to my POIS 'fix', not a gluten free diet.

Found a fix to my afternoon brain fog and mood disturbances: B-complex. Works like an absolute charm -- improved symptoms by 90%. Must of been deficient in some kind of B-vitamin. I eat a pretty diverse whole food diet so I am pretty surprised I am deficient in B-vitamins.

What's interesting is that this same afternoon brain fog and mood issues which were improved from fenugreek, garlic, and not eating lectins has now been solved through B-vitamins. The body is very complex. Updating main post to reflect changes.

[Quantum]

No longer on lectin-free diet. Garlic & fenugreek solution still holding up. Proof that fenugreek and garlic is the root solution to my POIS 'fix', not a gluten free diet.

Found a fix to my afternoon brain fog and mood disturbances: B-complex. Works like an absolute charm -- improved symptoms by 90%. Must of been deficient in some kind of B-vitamin. I eat a pretty diverse whole food diet so I am pretty surprised I am deficient in B-vitamins.

What's interesting is that this same afternoon brain fog and mood issues which were improved from fenugreek, garlic, and not eating lectins has now been solved through B-vitamins. The body is very complex. Updating main post to reflect changes.

Thanks for the update, WOTT, I have updated accordingly in section 3 of the POIS Types Chart

[Lihua]

No longer on lectin-free diet. Garlic & fenugreek solution still holding up. Proof that fenugreek and garlic is the root solution to my POIS 'fix', not a gluten free diet.

Found a fix to my afternoon brain fog and mood disturbances: B-complex. Works like an absolute charm -- improved symptoms by 90%. Must of been deficient in some kind of B-vitamin. I eat a pretty diverse whole food diet so I am pretty surprised I am deficient in B-vitamins.

What's interesting is that this same afternoon brain fog and mood issues which were improved from fenugreek, garlic, and not eating lectins has now been solved through B-vitamins. The body is very complex. Updating main post to reflect changes.

Thanks for the update, WOTT, I have updated accordingly in section 3 of the POIS Types Chart

thank you, the POISers all over the world should thank you

[warrioronthetrot]

Ran an experiment today.

Hadn't ejaculated for approximately 12 days. Wanted to test the power of fenugreek standing on it's own without the raw garlic.
Also consumed about 2oz of beef liver, 1.5ish oz beef kidney, and 1oz of beef heart beforehand.

Ejaculated 3 times in the span of about 2 hours. Took 2 1000mg fenugreek pills after each orgasm.
Fenugreek did well. The 3 o's did take it out of me energetically, but as far as mental clarity, the mind is feeling sharp (aided by the beef organs as well imo) and good. Energy came back around too.

Noticed too that the body was 'primed' for the 2nd and 3rd orgasm. The 1st orgam definitely triggered immediate light POIS reaction, but once the fenugreek was absorbed (I took it afterwards) it all settled down very quickly. Which means that it is certainly ideal to take the fenugreek before orgasm, but it is still effective if taken only afterwards. If you take it afterwards you will experience a light POIS come up until the body absorbs the fenugreek and gets to work fixing it.

[hurray]

Ran an experiment today.

Hadn't ejaculated for approximately 12 days. Wanted to test the power of fenugreek standing on it's own without the raw garlic.
Also consumed about 2oz of beef liver, 1.5ish oz beef kidney, and 1oz of beef heart beforehand.

Ejaculated 3 times in the span of about 2 hours. Took 2 1000mg fenugreek pills after each orgasm.
Fenugreek did well. The 3 o's did take it out of me energetically, but as far as mental clarity, the mind is feeling sharp (aided by the beef organs as well imo) and good. Energy came back around too.

Noticed too that the body was 'primed' for the 2nd and 3rd orgasm. The 1st orgam definitely triggered immediate light POIS reaction, but once the fenugreek was absorbed (I took it afterwards) it all settled down very quickly. Which means that it is certainly ideal to take the fenugreek before orgasm, but it is still effective if taken only afterwards. If you take it afterwards you will experience a light POIS come up until the body absorbs the fenugreek and gets to work fixing it.

Fenugreek gave me a lot of help when I used it, glad to hear you find it useful too. I also had a meaty meal before O as part of my routine.

[warrioronthetrot]

Fenugreek gave me a lot of help when I used it, glad to hear you find it useful too. I also had a meaty meal before O as part of my routine.

Yes, I?ve been using fenugreek with garlic for quite some time. Extremely effective for me. But was hesitant to try it on its own because to be honest I wasn?t sure whether it was the raw garlic or fenugreek doing the hard yards of fixing the POIS.

[warrioronthetrot]

Seeing as POIS is an issue pertaining to the balls, at least in some fashion, maybe it is logical ancestrally to eat some beef testicle.

[warrioronthetrot]

Ran another experiment to double check fenugreek on its own without the help of garlic or any notorious foods i.e. beef organs. My hypothesis was that the fenugreek fixes my POIS mental symptoms, while the raw garlic improves my POIS physical symptoms which is fatigue.

Ejaculated once last night, primed the body with 2g fenugreek before and after ejaculating. Woke up the next morning, zero POIS mental symptoms, though my body was notably tired (kinda like still waking up tired even though I nice deep sleep). My POIS mental symptoms were debilitating anxiety, brainfog, depression, etc.

That morning I took some raw garlic with milk to see if any notable change occurs in my energy levels. Definitely felt improvement to physical energy after taking the raw garlic.

So from now I on I characterise each ingredient as this:
1) 2g Fenugreek - fixes POIS mental symptoms
2) Raw garlic crushed - improves POIS physical symptoms of fatigue

The mental symptoms of my POIS were by far the most debilitating part of my POIS so in a sense, I can get away with not having the raw garlic but the fenugreek is an absolute must for me.

[Quantum]

Ran another experiment to double check fenugreek on its own without the help of garlic or any notorious foods i.e. beef organs. My hypothesis was that the fenugreek fixes my POIS mental symptoms, while the raw garlic improves my POIS physical symptoms which is fatigue.

Ejaculated once last night, primed the body with 2g fenugreek before and after ejaculating. Woke up the next morning, zero POIS mental symptoms, though my body was notably tired (kinda like still waking up tired even though I nice deep sleep). My POIS mental symptoms were debilitating anxiety, brainfog, depression, etc.

That morning I took some raw garlic with milk to see if any notable change occurs in my energy levels. Definitely felt improvement to physical energy after taking the raw garlic.

So from now I on I characterise each ingredient as this:
1) 2g Fenugreek - fixes POIS mental symptoms
2) Raw garlic crushed - improves POIS physical symptoms of fatigue

The mental symptoms of my POIS were by far the most debilitating part of my POIS so in a sense, I can get away with not having the raw garlic but the fenugreek is an absolute must for me.

Thanks for this detailed information, WOTT !   I have added a link to this experiment results post in the Fenugreek/Garlic section of the POIS Types Chart

[warrioronthetrot]

Vitamin B complex + methyl b12... can't be said enough. Improves my mental health significantly.

Fenugreek - prevents chronic mental POIS symptoms ie. anxiety, brainfog, etc
Garlic - improves physical energy
Vitamin B complex + Vitamin methyl B12 - significantly improves dopamine/motivation, gives me superior mental health

[warrioronthetrot]

Almost been an entire year since discovering fenugreek & garlic. They both still hold up very well to this day & completely changed my life really, eliminating all the chronic symptoms I used to experience (chronic brainfog, anxiety, fatigue, etc).

Though I do want to explicitly mention I still do feel subtle (yet very significant) symptoms. Whether they are 'natural' from orgasm, I honestly don't know. Lot's of eastern traditions emphasis how too frequent ejaculations weaken men. Some of them even give ideal ejaculation frequencies. I can ejaculate as much as I please with the fenugreek, garlic, and B-vitamins, however I do lose the extra "edge" that I can only experience when abstaining over a week or two (this extra edge is what I believe these eastern traditions are referring to). This extra edge makes me more loving, more energetic, more "masculine", more confident, overall. While my existence when experiencing frequent ejaculation is a lot more mundane generally speaking. I am more prone to instant gratification activities, less likely to engage in delayed gratification purposeful things, less passionate overall.

[mike_sweden]

Almost been an entire year since discovering fenugreek & garlic. They both still hold up very well to this day & completely changed my life really, eliminating all the chronic symptoms I used to experience (chronic brainfog, anxiety, fatigue, etc).

Though I do want to explicitly mention I still do feel subtle (yet very significant) symptoms. Whether they are 'natural' from orgasm, I honestly don't know. Lot's of eastern traditions emphasis how too frequent ejaculations weaken men. Some of them even give ideal ejaculation frequencies. I can ejaculate as much as I please with the fenugreek, garlic, and B-vitamins, however I do lose the extra "edge" that I can only experience when abstaining over a week or two (this extra edge is what I believe these eastern traditions are referring to). This extra edge makes me more loving, more energetic, more "masculine", more confident, overall. While my existence when experiencing frequent ejaculation is a lot more mundane generally speaking. I am more prone to instant gratification activities, less likely to engage in delayed gratification purposeful things, less passionate overall.

any fodmap would not work for me
union and garlic are massive fodmaps, cant eat any at all