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What was the result of your SIBO test?

Positive for Hydrogen
1 (3.2%)
Positive for Methane
2 (6.5%)
Positive for both Hydrogen and Methane
4 (12.9%)
Positive, but they have used a different combination of solution and gases. Elaborate in the comments.
0 (0%)
Negative, but they have used a different combination of solution and gases. Elaborate in the comments.
0 (0%)
Negative
1 (3.2%)
I have never done such a test before.
23 (74.2%)

Total Members Voted: 31

Author Topic: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)  (Read 29954 times)

Muon

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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #60 on: March 24, 2021, 10:20:32 AM »
Low BMI, Body Weight Loss, Low Muscle Mass, Low Appetite and Gut Microbiota:

Targeting the Gut Microbiota to Treat Cachexia

16S Microbiome test from Atlas Biomed (I don't have any printout of results, they are visible in a webpage with diagrams, so I can't post all of it)
- I am missing a number of important butyrate-producing bacteria such as faecalibacterium, roseburia, coprococcus, akkermansia. I also have very low eubacterium.
- I am also missing a non-butyrate bacteria called Lactobacillus.
- Bifidobacteria is about 2.4%.
I initially started treatment due to suspected SIBO, however a breath test during my most recent slump revealed only a minor methanogenic overgrowth (11 ppm methane, <10 reference range). According to a stool test, I have high levels of two known potential pathogens, klebsiella pneumoniae and citrobacter brakii, in addition to an overgrowth of bacteroidetes in my large intestine.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2021, 11:37:59 AM by Muon »

Muon

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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #61 on: March 28, 2021, 10:28:56 AM »
I was recently diagnosed with SIBO and will report back after treatment. I also strongly believe that I suffer from transient episodes of D-Lactac acidosis as part of a larger gut dysbiosis.     

What kind of test did you do for SIBO?

Lactulose breath test for both hydrogen and methane. Borderline positive for hydrogen and definitely positive for methane. See: https://i.imgur.com/GBp5YRV.jpg
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Back to the Source: Molecular Identification of Methanogenic Archaea as Markers of Colonic Methane Production
"breath methane excretion is elevated in constipation-predominant irritable bowel syndrome (IBS-C) patients, who also have lower postprandial serotonin levels than non-methane excreting IBS patients who excrete elevated H2"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaea



Muon

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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #64 on: April 26, 2021, 11:20:59 AM »
Gut Dysbiosis Dysregulates Central and Systemic Homeostasis via Suboptimal Mitochondrial Function: Assessment, Treatment and Classification Implications

Overall, gut dysbiosis and increased gut permeability have significant impacts on central and systemic homeostasis via the regulation of mitochondrial function, especially in central glia and systemic immune cells.

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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #65 on: December 11, 2021, 12:27:16 PM »
Tested positive for SIBO. Genova Diagnostics breath test. Let me know if anyone wants to see the full test results.
Yes please. Also make sure you put this info into your own thread. Don't forget to vote on this poll for the big picture. We could be dealing with archaea instead of bacteria.

Muon

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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2022, 10:45:28 AM »
2022.1.28, I went to hospital to test SIBO and it is positive, my doctor prescribed Bifidobacterium Lactobacillus triple viable tablets, a kind of probiotics and Trimebutine maleate dispersible tablets for me, and I will take medicine for fourteen days. After 14 days, I will do the SIBO test again. It is very peculiar that I neither diarrhea nor constipation(defecate twice a day), so even my doctor is very surprised with my positive result, and she said my result is very far from normal.

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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #67 on: January 28, 2022, 11:58:14 AM »
Hello
We hope to hear the result from you.
Thanks

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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #68 on: January 28, 2022, 01:27:57 PM »
I tested positive for SIBO and tried a treatment based on supplements which is scientifically proven to alleviate SIBO as effectively as antibiotics. Unfortunately there was no change in my symptoms. More details and test results here.

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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2022, 02:52:51 PM »
As pois atac ours nervos system, digestion , gut motility not workin
as it should, so valves in intesines like ileoccecal can stay open
when it shouldnt be or sty closed long perio of times..

So bacteria from large intesine go in small intesine and we get
sibo..

https://drjockers.com/benefits-ileocecal-valve-massage/
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« Last Edit: February 03, 2022, 02:59:38 PM by Hopeoneday »
Dr-pois.

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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2022, 04:08:50 AM »
Interesting! So we have to take care of our nervous system and promote a good gut motility. When we have 1-2 bowel movements per day the valve should maybe not be a problem?

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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2022, 02:40:39 PM »
gut motility not workin
as it should, so valves in intesines like ileoccecal can stay open
when it shouldnt be or sty closed long perio of times..

(...)

https://drjockers.com/benefits-ileocecal-valve-massage/


Super interesting. Thanks for posting this. Ties in with my slow transit constipation problem which I thought was fixed but somehow is back  >:(



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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #75 on: August 08, 2022, 12:44:05 PM »
My gastroenterologist diagnosed me with SIBO and prescribed 3 months of Antibiotics and probiotics. I'll post whole diet if anyone's interested

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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #76 on: September 28, 2022, 04:43:23 PM »
Histamine: A Mediator of Intestinal Disorders—A Review

There is a part mentioning gut dysbiosis including histamine producing GI microbes.


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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2022, 09:55:26 AM »
Two posible poisers, and i think there is more poisers there...
https://www.reddit.com/r/SIBO/comments/yraiep/masturbation_sex_and_sibo/
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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #78 on: December 15, 2022, 12:47:32 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/SIBO/comments/z3mk62/siboibs_root_cause_identified/

So, sibo ibs is not yust in yours head, antiviculin antibodies...
olsou posible after food poisoning...
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Re: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
« Reply #79 on: May 07, 2023, 06:59:54 AM »
The question is based on this setup: Solution: Lactulose. Gases: Hydrogen and Methane. If you have only used one of these gases then the first two options still apply. However when using different gases and/or solution(s) then one have to pick the 'elaborate in the comments' option.

Positive means abnormal result.
Negative means normal result.

Votes can be changed as usual.

Huge database of papers: https://www.siboinfo.com/studies.html

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Yeast/Candida

CharlesB, dead yeast in stool (microscope test, culture test is worthless):
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3643.msg38774#msg38774

Iwillbeatthis, high arabinose in urine, 44 mmol/mol creatinine (<20):
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2684.msg39410#msg39410

Muon, a clear T-lymphocyte cell mediated response to Candida Albicans, LTT:
1 ug/ml Candida: SI=26.5, 0.5 ug/ml Candida: SI=19.9 (this is the average value of 3 parallel tests, more cells have been multiplied proportional to the SI value, which is the ratio of the amount of candida stimulated T-cells and unstimulated T-cells). This could indicate Candida induced T-cell infiltration in the GI tract.
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2545.0
 
Cj.in.la, high Candida specific IgG4 response:
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2927.msg27543#msg27543

Bream, Potential innate response against Candida albicans via hBD-2:
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg31902#msg31902

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Same poll on ME/CFS forum:
https://forums.phoenixrising.me/threads/poll-small-intestinal-bacterial-overgrowth-sibo.82265/

D-lactic acidosis discussion

Discussion forum: https://forums.phoenixrising.me/forums/the-gut-ibs-sibo-leaky-gut-gastroparesis.9/

Fungal discussion: https://forums.phoenixrising.me/forums/fungal-infection-yeast-candida.129/

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IBS testing:
Anti-CdtB autoantibodies
Anti-vinculin autoantibodies
https://www.ibssmart.com/
https://chriskresser.com/is-ibs-an-autoimmune-disease/

Do you have Sibo? I am gettign tested now. I have severe bloating and gas with mostly constipation but also diarrhea sometimes
POIS sufferer for over 3 decades. Has progressively gotten worse over the years and I became completely disabled around 2011. My case of POIS is very severe.