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This is a kind of constipation independant of fiber or magnesium

No problems with defecation
No problems with defecation at all OR only loser stools sometimes
I have this kind of constipation and fatigue independant of POIS
I have this when having POIS
Actually defecation is easier when on POIS or after O

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berlin1984

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I am wondering if there is a correlation with pois as this can be worked around with Tryptophan/5HTP which gets the gut nerves moving.
And some people report improvements with Tryptophan/5HTP (even if it is just for repleneshing serotonine or whatever it does..)
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Are you located in Berlin, hence the name?

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berlin1984, welcome to the forum!
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Yes, Berlin. Note that there is multiple in the whole world, I'm in the biggest one ;-)

Thanks for the welcome. I've known this forum for many years, but only registered now.
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Just so you be aware, there is a lab in Berlin where you can order tests quite easily:

https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3207.0

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there is a lab in Berlin where you can order tests quite easily:

Thanks this sounds great. The corona test picture on their web page scares me a bit, I will postpone this for some months.
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Let us know on the forum if you decide to proceed with the testing by that time. People could give you their opinion about testing for certain parameters regarding various theories. You will get a view from multiple angles that way which can help you in making a final selection.

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Hi Berlin, in pois i hawe sometimes some sort of anaphalaxsis, is suspect because bovel put presure on lower back erea on prostate wich is in pain and feels inflamed. And some times , only arousall with no OE, induce contipation next day.
(neurodigestive isues is linked to pois in my case).

By the way, me , Muon and crew did searching for man in Germay who will be capable to do some "special" testings.
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Re: Extremely fatigued before bowel movement (slow transit constipation)
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2020, 01:22:54 PM »
I now believe this can be greatly improved by doing two things:

Drink a glass of warm water after waking up (drink it fast)
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=drinking+water+fast+in+morning

Eat yoghurt.
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2775.msg35284#msg35284

Take physalis berries (Cape gooseberry, goldenberry).
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3306.msg35444#msg35444

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Re: Extremely fatigued before bowel movement (slow transit constipation)
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2020, 12:53:57 PM »
Forum keyword: "motility"
Google keywords: "gut motility",  "GI motility" or "Gastrointestinal motility"

Apparantly low motility is one of the triggers for SIBO.
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Re: Extremely fatigued before bowel movement (slow transit constipation)
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2020, 01:03:05 PM »
Things that are also supposed to help:

* Magnesium (general good thing to take..)

* Choline (supplement forms or egg yolk)

* Vagus Nerve exercises (gargling, ..)
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Re: Extremely fatigued before bowel movement (slow transit constipation)
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2020, 02:28:00 PM »
Nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide replenishment rescues colon degeneration in aged mice
https://www.nature.com/articles/sigtrans201717
"Notably, this colonic degeneration was accompanied with reduced key NAD+-generating enzyme expression and lowered NAD+/NADH ratio in aged colon. Three-month continuous administration of beta nicotinamide mononucleotide, a NAD+ precursor, elevated colonic NAD+ level and improved defecation in aged mice. "
beta nicotinamide mononucleotide = NMN.
For humans, it might(!) work to take NADH sublingual or Nicotinamide riboside (NR).
Niacin = nicotinic acid
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Re: Extremely fatigued before bowel movement (slow transit constipation)
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2020, 02:30:50 PM »
Ribose Accelerates Gut Motility and Suppresses Mouse Body Weight Gaining
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4870713/
"Ribose oral treatment in wild type mice also enhanced bowel motility and rendered mice resistance to high fat diets. The suppressed weight gain was resulted from enhanced ingested food excretion"
(Obviously we don't want too much motility)
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Re: Extremely fatigued before bowel movement (slow transit constipation)
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2020, 06:58:34 AM »
Forum keyword: "motility"
Google keywords: "gut motility",  "GI motility" or "Gastrointestinal motility"

Apparantly low motility is one of the triggers for SIBO.

If you feel that you're fatigued before eating or after eating or around your usual toilet time:
20 drops of Iberogast and one cup of warm water with ginger powder.
Really works wonders.
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