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Laboratories for self testing & parameter discussion
« on: February 01, 2020, 01:58:17 PM »
Please share labs with the poiscenter community                         

This thread is meant to give you a summary of laboratories where you can do testing yourself and to discuss parameters prior to the actual testing. Feel free to post your experience with laboratories in the comments below. Be aware of the fact that these are labs and thus won't offer consultations with doctors. You may also share a lab location anonymously by sending me or an admin a private message. People can ask for advice, give their recommendation/thoughts, or simply brainstorm regarding parameters.

At least the following two conditions must be met:

1) A referral from a doctor is not necessary
2) No involvement of insurance companies

You may post your results here:

Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results (Which can serve as an inspiration for testing)

And discuss about these to keep things clean over here:

Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread

The following sites can be used to find interesting papers/info about the parameter in question:
(Type in the parameter and/or a symptom/condition/disorder for example. How to unlock papers)

https://scholar.google.com

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Belgium

City: Brussels
Lab name: R.E.D Laboratories
Website: https://redlabs.be/
Acceptance of international patients: Yes
Specialization: Immunology, Intestinal dysfunction/microbiome
Appointment required?: Yes (see specifics below)
Members who went there: None, Muon had contact
Request forms/catalog: https://redlabs.be/ordering-tests/request-forms/
Info:

Muon: They don't draw blood at their own lab. There is a facility nearby that makes use of their service. That facility can draw your blood and ship samples to redlabs. The facility makes use of consultancies, you will have to point out that you don't need a consultancy, just draw blood and ship it. Contact Redlabs via mail and ask them where to draw blood or how to ship stuff from your home town.

Germany

City: Berlin
Lab name: IMD Labor Berlin
Website: https://www.imd-berlin.de/labor.html
Acceptance of international patients: Yes
Specialization: Immunology, Type IV Hypersensitivities
Appointment required?: No
Members who went there: Muon & his brother
Info:

Request forms main portal

Standard form self-payer, Standard form expanded: These are parameters that are always available to self-payers, you can print and fill out the form, just walk into their lab without an appointment and hand it over at the service desk. Multiple forms could be used for different points in time.

Entire catalog: Besides the regular tests from the standard form you can ask for a pricing list (cost per test) for alternative parameters. You need to send an email for specific costs per test ... they have it from A to Z. Parameters with the description ''Analytik nur im Rahmen von Studien-/Forschungsprojekten, zum Studienservice'' are not available to the public, it's restricted to official research.

Many samples must be received within 24h which is impossible for international patients. It's better to go there and draw blood at lab location.

Customized tests are possible like using LTT combined with semen/allergen/antigen plus additional Effector cell typing. The lab director Dr. von Baehr is already aware of POIS and is open-minded about it.

They will send lab results and invoice to your home address.

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City: Berlin
Lab name: Celltrend
Website: https://www.celltrend.de/en/
Acceptance of international patients: ?
Specialization: Autoimmunity (POTS, CFS/ME, CRPS, adrenergic/muscarinic auto-antibodies)
Appointment required?: ?
Members who went there: Nobody
Request forms/catalog: Main, POTS, CFS, CRPS
Info:

"It is also possible to send samples (IMPORTANT: Only send the seperated sera after centrifugation, not the entire unprocessed blood or plasma sample) for auto-antibody diagnostics to the CellTrend lab."

Notes for specimen collection and transport:
Collect serum with conventional serum tubes. Centrifuge after clotting and transfer about 1 ml of serum into a new tube (do not send whole blood or plasma tubes). Ship at room temperature to our laboratory address (see above). Duration should not exceed more than 48h, therefore use a courier service like FedEx or similar. Please inform us about shipping by email with carrier/tracking number.

The Netherlands

City: Bunnik
Lab name: World Health Laboratories (former name: European Laboratory of Nutrients (ELN))
Website: https://www.worldhealthlaboratories.com/nl/home
Acceptance of international patients: Unknown
Specialization: Nutrients, intestinal permeability
Appointment required?: Unknown
Members who went there: Muon (shipping only)
Request forms/catalog: Request form
Info:

Muon: They have sent me an intestinal permeability testkit which I shipped back once completed. Results and invoice received at home address.

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City: Nederweert
Lab name: Pro Health Medical
Website: https://www.prohealth.nl/
Acceptance of international patients: Yes
Specialization: Borrelia/Lyme, Food intolerance, breath tests.
Appointment required?: Yes
Members who went there: Nobody
Request forms/catalog: Main portal
Info:

1) They have locations througout the country where you can draw blood. You don't need a referal from your doctor for this.

2) Another option is to draw blood at your local hospital/clinic. They will send material to this clinic, however you will need a signature from you doctor when using this method.

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City: Locations
Lab name: Yourlabs
Website: https://www.yourlabs.nl/
Acceptance of international patients: Yes
Specialization: Just basic stuff.
Appointment required?: No
Members who went there: Nobody
Request forms/catalog: https://www.yourlabs.nl/bloedonderzoek
Info: Result within 24h

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https://www.prescan.nl/

UK (England)

City: Sheffield
Lab name: Protein Reference Unit (PRU, part of Sheffield Teaching Hospitals NHS)
Website: https://www.immqas.org.uk/pru.asp?CID=1
Acceptance of international patients: Yes
Specialization: Immunology, Mast Cell activation markers
Appointment required?: Unknown
Members: Muon

Muon: After communication via email I was being told I could send a package with 24h urine (got the urine collection equiment from my local hospital and hired a third party courier which provided dry ice and package material) anytime of the day from the Netherlands to their facility. I did include a piece of paper with my patient information and my GP's office address printed on it. They will only send the results and invoice to your GP's office. However you don't need a referal, at least for international patients like me.

The good thing about this lab is that they offer mast cell activation markers which is rare for European labs.

USA

Find medical test: https://www.findlabtest.com/

https://www.healthtestingcenters.com/

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City: Reno, NV
Lab name: R.E.D Laboratories
Website: https://redlabs.be/
Acceptance of international patients: ?
Specialization: Immunology, Intestinal dysfunction/microbiome, pathogens, pro-inflammatory cytokines
Appointment required?: ?
Members who went there: None
Request forms/catalog: https://redlabs.be/ordering-tests/request-forms/
Info:
They seem to have a lab in the USA. Not sure if one needs a referal from a care provider.

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City: Beaverton, OR
Lab name: ZRT laboratory
Website: https://www.zrtlab.com/
Acceptance of international patients: Yes
Specialization: Hormones, neurotransmitters
Appointment required?: ?
Members who made use of it: BoneBroth, EDS
Request forms/catalog: Full Catalog, General info, Overview of testkits
Info:
They can send testkits.

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City: South Amboy, New Jersey
Lab name: Health Diagnostics and Research Institute/World Health Laboratories
Website: https://www.worldhealthlaboratories.com,  USA branch probably outdated: http://www.hdri-usa.com/
Acceptance of international patients: Unknown
Specialization: Nutrients, intestinal permeability
Appointment required?: Unknown
Members who went there: Nobody
Request forms/catalog: Request form
Info: Not sure if one needs a referal from a care provider. Also not sure if the above request form is the one from the USA or just the EU one translated for international patients.
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Tregs could be measured in Berlin: #9 List

"We demonstrated previously that testosterone treatment induces a strong increase in the Treg cell population both in vivo and in vitro."
Androgen receptor modulates Foxp3 expression in CD4+CD25+Foxp3+ regulatory T-cells

If it's low one could increase the population by androgens or IL-2 therapy. Not sure if they measure total pool and/or subsets.
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