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Marshall Protocol and other exotic treatments
« on: October 26, 2011, 12:37:21 AM »
Hey Gang, good to be a part of your team again. I went on the Marshall Protocol for 6 months and found that there were some benefits. Taking the primary medication, Benicar after orgasm seemed to significantly decrease the amount of refractory time. Upon discontinuation of the MP, I found that many of the symptoms returned. I was quite pleased that the inventor, Trevor Marshall was willing to discuss POIS with me once a week in an attempt to identify what the causitive agent(s) and the important considerations to help narrow down the appropriate diagnosis. In the next few days I will be sharing with you some of those conversations and you will be able to make an educated decision as to whether they apply to your situation or not.

1) If POIS is caused from an auto immune response that is a direct result of an ongoing infection, what is the best way to determine whether an intrinsic infection is present. The problem with some of these therapies is/are that eradication of the infectuous agent may cause symptoms to become worse for a time before getting better. This is called, "Herxing"

Herxing is the result of the infection fighting back and releasing some toxic by products in order to get you to stop using that substance. These substances are anti-infectives such as: Garlic, Oregano oil, Grapefruit seed extract, wormwood, High dose Zinc, High dose Lysine, and of course anti-biotics and or anti fungals.

2) If POIS is a result of an auto-immune response, what exactly is the immune system attacking and importantly, how is it attacking. Is Prednisone or other corticosteroids effective? Is it more effective than Ibuprofen? What dose of Ibuprofen is effective? 200? 600? Does strong black coffee eleviate the symptoms? In the Marshall Protocol, they frequently used coffee to help with Herxing. There is an acid in coffee that helps decrease the immune response.

3) Why do Nitric oxide and vasodialators help? High dose Arginine, Gingko Biloba, Niacin, (Erectile dysfunction drugs) Cialis, Viagra, Nitric Oxide Gym supplements such as NO FUEL etc.

4) What is the role of Mono-amine oxidase inhibitors such as: Yohimbine, Nutmeg, Rosea, and why do they appear to be functional when typical antidepressants fail?

5) What is the role of H1 blockers (antihistamines)? Do antihistamines that cross the blood brain barrier such as benedryl better protect against the cognitive effects of post coital POIS symptoms?

6) What is the role of saturated fats in the diet and why do they appear to prolong POIS?

7) Why does it appear that Vitamin D does not increase after supplementation and what is its role in POIS?

8) What is the role of sleep in POIS?

9) What is the role of sunlight avoidance with POIS? Why is it that low energy states decrease the refractory time?

10) What are the effects of Oxygen therapy? Is it beneficial or have little or no effect?

11) Why does the pH of your urine change during the syndrome for some people? Is there an easy fix for that?

12) What is the effect of hydration status? Zinc supplementation, Vitamin C, traditional B vitamins?

13) What minerals help? Timothy Ferris suggests Brazil nuts, high in Selenium. What about Iron? Copper?

14) Force myself to exercise or just stay in bed? What is better?

These are some of the questions I hope to address in the coming weeks with you guys. I will try to present this material in an unbiased way, and immediate results are not always a tenable.

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Re: Marshall Protocol and other exotic treatments
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2020, 01:25:45 PM »
4) What is the role of Mono-amine oxidase inhibitors such as: Yohimbine, Nutmeg, Rosea, and why do they appear to be functional when typical antidepressants fail?

(I don't think the main action is MAO inhibition)

I'll hijack this thread as it's the only one mentioning Yohimbine.

Muon and others, this is a quite sexual related supplement. Can you say if it can be useful for us? Maybe someone tried it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yohimbine
https://examine.com/supplements/yohimbine/
https://selfhacked.com/blog/benefits-yohimbine/
https://accp1.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/j.1552-4604.1994.tb04981.x

Note: It sounds a bit dangerous (for anything...), so I don't think I would try it myself.

EDIT: Mentions here:
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.14380
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.17560
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.14580

EDIT: Oh, there is more spellings. "yohimbe" gives results in this forum and naked scientists.

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Re: Marshall Protocol and other exotic treatments
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2020, 01:36:46 PM »
haha:
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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
? Message by demografx on 31/12/2009 08:13:42 ?
Quote from: RhythmSpring on 31/12/2009 06:49:03


    Has anyone ever tried the herb Yohimbe for their POIS symptoms?

    It's a strong vasodialator, slight euphoriant, and aphrodesiac. It's effects profile seem to counter POIS complaints very well.


Previous forum discussions re Yohimbe:
http://www.google.com/search?q=yohimbe+pois+site:http://thenakedscientists.com&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari

^Via searching Yohimbe on https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?action=search2
I now advise against trying this supplement after skimming through the results there..

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Re: Marshall Protocol and other exotic treatments
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2022, 11:50:39 AM »
I believe I was using Yohimbine when I was in my teens. I could be mistaken but I think it was an ingredient to a chinese supplement I was taking. I would masturbate, take the supplement after and my semen would be restored so I would quickly masturbate again without having to wait longer. I think it helped restore my energy. But then I heard that an ingredient in it was linked to heart attacks so I stopped taking it. It was called Qi Male Chi, the brand was Chinese Medicinals, but I searched the internet and can not find any traces of it. Probably 26 years since I last took it at least.

Also I should mention back then I had only had POIS a few years and my symptoms were way more mild then they are now probably 5% compared to now.
POIS sufferer for over 3 decades. Has progressively gotten worse over the years and I became completely disabled around 2011. My case of POIS is very severe.