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What is the lowest level of testosterone that has been measured in you?

>1000 ng/dl
0 (0%)
801 - 1000 ng/dl
0 (0%)
601 - 800 ng/dl
3 (16.7%)
401 - 600 ng/dl
3 (16.7%)
301 - 400 ng/dl
2 (11.1%)
201 - 300 ng/dl
0 (0%)
151 - 200 ng/dl
0 (0%)
101 - 150 ng/dl
1 (5.6%)
51 - 100 ng/dl
1 (5.6%)
25 - 50 ng/dl
1 (5.6%)
0- 24 ng/dl
0 (0%)
I have never checked it or checked it but can't remember or lost the data.
7 (38.9%)

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Muon

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Testosterone
« on: November 17, 2019, 03:51:22 PM »
Testosterone Poll, about the minimum values.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2020, 08:39:47 AM by Muon »
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Re: Poll: Testosterone
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2019, 06:39:50 PM »
Sorry, but I’d have to find my 2008 records!
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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

joelawerence

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Re: Poll: Testosterone
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2019, 09:21:20 AM »
The scales used in UK are different. The lowest I was measured was 3.0 when the minimum one should have was 7.8. Now I am measuring slightly over 8, so just about low end of Normal.
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33 years old, POIS for around 12 years with increasing severity.
Major symptoms - Severe fatigue, back pain, unrefreshed even after 9+ hours sleep, pain behind eyes, very dry face, bald head with inflamed scalp, digestion issues and constipation. Very low testosterone and high glucose in blood tests

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Re: Poll: Testosterone
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2019, 09:32:42 AM »
Quote from: joelawerence on December 02, 2019, 09:21:20 AM
The scales used in UK are different. The lowest I was measured was 3.0 when the minimum one should have was 7.8. Now I am measuring slightly over 8, so just about low end of Normal.
What units did they use? And was it total or free testosterone. The poll is based on total testosterone. Perhaps I should make another poll for free levels or a combination.
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Re: Poll: Testosterone
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2019, 05:51:18 PM »
Free-T has been cited frequently here as far more important than total-T
« Last Edit: December 02, 2019, 06:16:04 PM by demografx »
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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

certainlypois2

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Re: Poll: Testosterone
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2019, 06:51:31 PM »
Quote from: Muon on December 02, 2019, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: joelawerence on December 02, 2019, 09:21:20 AM
The scales used in UK are different. The lowest I was measured was 3.0 when the minimum one should have was 7.8. Now I am measuring slightly over 8, so just about low end of Normal.
What units did they use? And was it total or free testosterone. The poll is based on total testosterone. Perhaps I should make another poll for free levels or a combination.
A poll for free testosterone will be nice. The two levels are not necessarily proportional.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2019, 07:19:51 PM by demografx »
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Re: Poll: Testosterone
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2019, 09:21:56 AM »
Quote from: certainlypois2 on December 02, 2019, 06:51:31 PM
A poll for free testosterone will be nice. The two levels are not necessarily proportional.
I haven't looked into free T. Aren't they correlated? These could fluctuate throughout the day and people could have done multiple tests. What do you suggest that I should set up a similar poll for free T based on the lowest level?
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Re: Poll: Testosterone
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2019, 03:07:46 PM »
Quote from: Muon on December 03, 2019, 09:21:56 AM
I haven't looked into free T. Aren't they correlated?
No.

Quote from: Muon on December 03, 2019, 09:21:56 AM
...do you suggest that I should set up a similar poll for free T?
Yes.

Sorry this was directed at cp2, but it’s a subject near and dear!
cp2, please respond if u wish!

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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

certainlypois2

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Re: Poll: Testosterone
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2019, 05:50:06 PM »
Quote from: Muon on December 03, 2019, 09:21:56 AM
Quote from: certainlypois2 on December 02, 2019, 06:51:31 PM
A poll for free testosterone will be nice. The two levels are not necessarily proportional.
I haven't looked into free T. Aren't they correlated? These could fluctuate throughout the day and people could have done multiple tests. What do you suggest that I should set up a similar poll for free T based on the lowest level?

I was basing the answer on my anecdotal experience but it looks like Harvard health is saying both should be tested because  SHBG levels affect level of free testosterone.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/testing-your-testosterone-its-tricky.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2019, 06:12:38 PM »
certainlypois2, excellent article!
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40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2019, 08:31:22 PM »
Muon, my pre-edit “!”s above were not angry, just....POISed :) :)
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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

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40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Poll: Testosterone
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2019, 05:09:28 AM »
Quote from: Muon on December 02, 2019, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: joelawerence on December 02, 2019, 09:21:20 AM
The scales used in UK are different. The lowest I was measured was 3.0 when the minimum one should have was 7.8. Now I am measuring slightly over 8, so just about low end of Normal.
What units did they use? And was it total or free testosterone. The poll is based on total testosterone. Perhaps I should make another poll for free levels or a combination.

It is Total Testosterone. Extract from the link below: "A fairly wide level of total testosterone in males is considered normal (9-32 mmol/l which is equivalent to about 270-1,000 ng/dl), but many men do complain of symptoms of low testosterone at the low end of this normal range. For example, a 45-year-old man with 10 mmol/l total testosterone may be unhappy at that level."

https://www.pharmacy2u.co.uk/onlinedoctor/testosterone.html

So, my lowest testosterone level at 3 was way low than the lowest normal of 9 mmol / 270 ng/dl.

Now due to exercising and abstaining from masturbation I have levels in the low end of normal around 10.
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Re: Poll: Testosterone
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2019, 07:37:13 AM »
If it's 3 and it's below the lower limit plus it represents total testosterone then unit prefix is nano (n) and not milli (m) as in nmol/L instead of mmol/L.

To convert total testosterone from ng/dL to nmol/L (SI units), multiply the value in ng/dL by 0.0347; to convert free testosterone from pg/mL to pmol/L (SI units), multiply the value in pg/mL by 3.47. You will have to divide by this number if you are going the other direction of conversion.

Converter: http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconvert/Testosterone.php

So your lowest level was 86.5 ng/dL
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