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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #140 on: September 03, 2021, 03:25:02 AM »
Depends on what you mean by "psychological issues", thats a broad expression with a unfair negative sound . Every people on earth probably have "psychological issues" more or less and we should not dismiss the idea that one kind of those "issues" could be more common in POISers then others. When science start to dismiss cause/effect ideas its often reaching a dead end (for example school medicine). Personally long term stress has been a major factor that has coexisted as long as I had POIS and could very well be the releasing factor for me. Stress hits on us diffrently depending on diffrent psychological traits. We are borned diffrent - "Some are like water, some are like the heat. Some are a melody and some are the beat".

I'm a sensitive and empathic individual and the youngest sibling. There is science supporting that people like that are more prone to stress then others. Thats not "issues" - thats the natural composition of traits that balances and enriches the interactions between humans. Further more there is no negative valuation in having "psychological issues", its only a initial position and we all have diffrent initial positions. After the result of a IQ-poll here some made the hypothesis that POIS'ers are generally more intelligent then others and with intelligence comes understanding of more risk factors and thus potentially more stress. Or it could just be that intelligent persons just spend more time at the computers/books. But that sedentary lifestyle might also have influence of our social life and cause "psychological issues" - a term that conventional medicine tend to use for people in a wrongful manner.
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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #141 on: September 03, 2021, 01:20:36 PM »
I can confirm that stress may be if it is certainly not a very likely factor. I discovered my POIS a few months ago, a few weeks after I got an inflamed thyroid and was diagnosed with hypothyroidism after one nasty Atrioventricular block! No heart problems, thankfully. I have checked three times in the last 5 months and I have another appointment scheduled in a few days (as I have some chest discomfort that comes and goes from time to time)
Recently I have come to be diagnosed with IBS, too. I don't know if it was there since day one, but it explains a little of the argument you're trying to make. Ejaculations are the worst for, especially if space between them is 7-10 days. NEs leave symptoms but are not as nasty as an M.
3 months ago I found that prolactin level is higher than normal; my testosterone level is in the mid-range.

I can say that stress and anxiety had a good part of it as for the few months before my first problem were full of mixed emotions due to academic issues. I was so angry, and so hopeless!

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #142 on: September 03, 2021, 01:49:34 PM »
Depends on what you mean by "psychological issues", thats a broad expression with a unfair negative sound . Every people on earth probably have "psychological issues" more or less and we should not dismiss the idea that one kind of those "issues" could be more common in POISers then others. When science start to dismiss cause/effect ideas its often reaching a dead end (for example school medicine). Personally long term stress has been a major factor that has coexisted as long as I had POIS and could very well be the releasing factor for me. Stress hits on us diffrently depending on diffrent psychological traits. We are borned diffrent - "Some are like water, some are like the heat. Some are a melody and some are the beat".

I'm a sensitive and empathic individual and the youngest sibling. There is science supporting that people like that are more prone to stress then others. Thats not "issues" - thats the natural composition of traits that balances and enriches the interactions between humans. Further more there is no negative valuation in having "psychological issues", its only a initial position and we all have diffrent initial positions. After the result of a IQ-poll here some made the hypothesis that POIS'ers are generally more intelligent then others and with intelligence comes understanding of more risk factors and thus potentially more stress. Or it could just be that intelligent persons just spend more time at the computers/books. But that sedentary lifestyle might also have influence of our social life and cause "psychological issues" - a term that conventional medicine tend to use for people in a wrongful manner.

Yes, I agree with this. What irks me a bit is when people suggest that POIS is entirely psychological, or a consequence of some process in our minds. I know that stress affects me (and most of us) negatively, and that we all have unreleased emotions and bad experiences at some point, but there has to be some physical reason behind what is happening to us. Hundreds of thousands of people live in terrible conditions in the world, under heavy stress, in the middle of wars, enduring abuse... and we don't see them developing POIS. Sure, stress isn't good for anybody and they might develop lasting trauma from their experiences (or at least the most sensitive and empathetic of them, like you said), but POIS looks like a very specific set of symptoms that isn't common at all, at least as far as we know.

If the vagus nerve is malfunctioning as I believe, it could fail to regulate our bodies' response to stress, and lead to excessive activation of the sympathetic nervous system or an uncontrolled release of stress hormones, thus making normal stress more damaging to us than it is to normal people. Just an idea. Personally, stress doesn't hurt me too much, but fear does. I think that the key for it to be damaging is the adrenaline response. I'll expand a bit on this on my thread when I'm done with the exams I have next week (a good source of stress! ;D).
25-year-old Spanish woman with POIS symptoms for the last 12 years.
Suffering from exercise intolerance since April 2020.
My case thread, with medical tests results.

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #143 on: September 17, 2021, 10:05:48 AM »
Neurosal before bed made my sleep so much better. I feel healthy.
This med might be the answer for POIS. I'll keep you in touch

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« Reply #144 on: September 29, 2021, 05:16:38 AM »
@IronFeather

just FYI (as you've read I have MCAS):
Vagus nerve and gut connection is precisely the way sexual activity damages my body because of MCAS. Every O my vagus nerve gets excited and damages my gut just like normal stress would. MCAS people also have exercise intolerance more or less btw...

Via MCAS treatment I have made (for me) significant progress with minimizing POIS hangover (from 4 days of debilitating brain fog ap to 1,5 days of light fatigue/tiredness). Besides normal MCAS lifestyle the main "medicine" that works for me is Cromolyn Sodium and high doses chamomile. Maybe test if chamomile tea makes you feel better? These chamomile supplements work the best:
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« Reply #145 on: October 04, 2021, 07:29:19 AM »
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=33848

This guy's posts need to be taken into consideration I think. Especially toe massage stuff, it works for me

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« Reply #146 on: October 04, 2021, 03:51:43 PM »
toe massage feels oddly good. Just tried it now.

Very interesting hint.
How did you find it?

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« Reply #147 on: October 07, 2021, 11:49:08 AM »
Hello friends
I ate two tablespoons of garlic oil tonight and I think I feel better than before

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« Reply #148 on: October 12, 2021, 06:50:21 AM »
My Psychiatrist prescribed melatonin for me. I sleep so good, wake up relaxed, stress is gone.
As stress is was an important factor for my pois I hugely recommend taking it.

My POIS is gone and I think I can help some of this forum's members.


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« Reply #149 on: October 12, 2021, 10:18:41 AM »
I have been prescribed Fluoxetine for diagnosed POIS. Was there any advantage for any of the users with the drug ?

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« Reply #150 on: October 12, 2021, 12:45:57 PM »

I have been prescribed Fluoxetine for diagnosed POIS. Was there any advantage for any of the users with the drug ?


It helped my depression, but nothing else.

I’m not a doctor, but I am extremely skeptical of a fluoxetine-Rx for POIS.

Physicians are often all-too-eager to write off POIS as ‘just another psychological problem’.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2021, 08:00:13 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #151 on: October 15, 2021, 04:38:58 PM »

My Psychiatrist prescribed melatonin for me. I sleep so good, wake up relaxed, stress is gone.
As stress is was an important factor for my pois I hugely recommend taking it.

My POIS is gone and I think I can help some of this forum's members.


Melatonin has helped me with
• jet lag
• better sleep

But it did nothing for my POIS.

And I hope it continues to help your POIS, lw!
« Last Edit: October 17, 2021, 07:32:23 AM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #152 on: November 24, 2021, 05:13:36 AM »
One thing I want to suggest all members is that take it slow.
When masturbating do it slow, very slow.
When having intercourse, don't hurry try to last longer.
Longer I last, less POIS I experience

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« Reply #153 on: November 24, 2021, 07:48:38 AM »
I'm also working of eliminating Helicobacter pylori.

"Helicobacter pylori(H. pylori) is a type of bacteria. These germs can enter your body and live in your digestive tract. After many years, they can cause sores, called ulcers, in the lining of your stomach or the upper part of your small intestine. For some people, an infection can lead to stomach cancer"

Please check, you might also have it. Work on getting rid of it :) good luck

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« Reply #154 on: November 24, 2021, 06:57:40 PM »

I'm also working on eliminating Helicobacter pylori.


« Last Edit: November 24, 2021, 07:02:55 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #155 on: November 24, 2021, 07:02:19 PM »
lw, I thought I would die - - from a severe diverticulitis attack - - which as you probably know is an inflammation of the intestines. Major emergency surgery saved me, with a removal of 10% of my colon.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business