Members' Compilation and Suggestions for POIS Summary

[mellivora]

Hi Lycopoulos,

Thanks for taking time to post such a thorough reply to my questions! I'm happy for you that you have reached this stage, well done and thanks again for sharing your experience!

I do feel there is some kind of connection to digestion, whether its involving  a vagus nerve connection or otherwise. POIS has always affected my digestion (generally looser stools). When I went gluten free (one month) I needed less wipes with toilet tissue within a just a few days (less fatty stools?? - b_jim found the same thing). Right now, the diet will be difficult for me to follow in the long-term owing to the way I currently work in various locations abroad...However, while I am home it would seem silly not to try it for as long as I can. I am also still interested in trying some intermittent fasting days (I have posted before about research about fasting and it being a way of 'resetting' the immune system. Some people have found it to help their immune disorders). Trying a fast and then taking up the diet could be a way of kick-starting a recovery but that's just a thought I have at the moment. I have done a  fast for over 1.5 days before and it possibly helped general alertness and well being feeling. I didn't test POIS symptoms afterward though. There are studies that have shown a 3 day fast can 'reset' the immune system when you start eating again - google it...

The knuckles on my hands are quite swollen. The joints can get stiff and this is aggravated by rock climbing but a physio I saw thinks there may be a condition underlying it (i.e. it is more than just caused by climbing).  I will hopefully find out soon if this is arthritic/autoimmune and it would be interesting to see if the diet helps. I already feel  its possible that the fast I did helped and must try again...

For sure I feel I need to try your diet suggestions. I previously tried gluten free and within a few days my digestion seemed better. Recently I have had more wheat (eg. 'normal bread') and have a background feeling of mucus in the sinuses and at the back of the throat which could be connected but I am not definitely sure if the connection is real yet.  I haven't had any formal  tests for food intolerances. The diet you mention makes sense in a lot of ways and I will be looking into it more and trying it... What I'd  like to do  is get an assessment for my knuckle issues and, if it is some kind of autoimmune thing, I'll then have something more widely recognised in medical circles to help me assess if the diet works for me and I can also assess POIS symptoms myself with the diet...

[Prancer]

One of the main probz for me with changing diet (besides the fact that I'm upset I can't eat much yummy food) is the fact that food is not a one-ingredient, black & white, yes or no, 1 or 0 thing. For example, if a slice of pizza causes an intolerance in someone, that doesn't mean he/she can't eat pizza...it means there are one or more ingredients on that slice that are bad. Maybe it's the sauce. Maybe the crust. Or maybe it's the cheese (dairy). I'm very open to the idea of reducing inflammation and altering diet, but it's not always easy or convenient, and I'm definitely not sure it's the actual root cause of POIS. It's definitely something to consider, and even if it "cures" someone of POIS, it doesn't mean that it is the actual cause of the illness. Another reason I bring it up is because I was recently at a restaurant with some friends, and I saw pretty much nothing on the menu that I could eat under the new plan. So I just ordered what I wanted. I can't always ask the waiter to bring me a plate full of berries or kale.

[mellivora]

Prancer you are right. And if you eat out it can be very hard to stick to the diet in its strictest form. I started the autoimmune protocol over a week ago. However I have been adapting it a bit. The idea seems to be to eat just foods that are the least likely to cause inflammation and restricts you to foods unlikely to cause inflammation in anyone - though everyone will, I think, have other foods they can eat without problems, this will vary from person to person. Supposedly when you start feeling better you can start adding other foods in and identify problem foods if you seem to react to any when you add them back in.

I took the plunge and went straight into the strict diet. I felt pretty rubbish - weirdly light headed, hungry, low energy. I felt I needed carbs. In hindsight, it is probably more sensible to transition into the diet than make a sudden change as otherwise you are effectively asking your body to change its gut flora instantly and change the way it metabolises food (more fats for energy than carbs?) to make best use of the new diet. After a few days feeling bad on the diet, I added in rice (I've been doing quite a bit of exercise and felt deprived of the right fuel). This improved things (and I don't believe I have a problem with rice whereas I have some suspicions about wheat). Soon after I added in nuts and seeds and felt better again (in particular I added brazil nuts - perhaps I was lacking selenium otherwise but that is pure speculation). With the addition of nuts, seeds and rice the diet has been easier. Basically though its eating only fresh ingredients, no processed foods, no sugary foods, generally no grains (but rice at the moment for me) and no legumes or 'nightshade vegetables' (tomatoes, potatoes, some peppers - black pepper supposedly ok), no dairy.

Today I have had a bowl of oats which is a definite no no on the diet. I have started keeping a food diary so will see if there are any noticeable effects. I know I should give the pure diet longer in theory but I honestly don't think it was doing me any good. I've heard even gastroenterologists say that we don't really understand the gut and all its complexities. Its naive to assume that the same diet can help everyone and everyone should do things a certain way. Tolerance to different foods varies so much through the population. You have to find what works for you (if diet is the solution at all).

Its too early to say if the diet is helping my fingers -  it seems it could be but I can't definitely say. If it is the case (and I'll find out for sure if I have arthritis in my fingers very soon), its possible that cutting out dairy has made the difference - there is evidence that this has worked for others with arthritis. Obviously arthritis isn't POIS but it is thought to be (at least in some forms) autoimmune and so what helps one autoimmune condition might, I suppose, help another (if indeed there is any autoimmune issue underlying POIS).  There is also evidence that at least for some people (and it does seem to vary a lot) that cutting out nightshade  vegetables can help a bit with arthritis. However, the easiest to find (on the internet at least) scientific studies on diet and arthritis are to do with fasting followed by a vegetarian/ vegan diet and this has been shown to help some people. Some people (I've not seen any papers on this) have reported improvement in arthritis with paleo though - very different to vegan diet!!  - though both no dairy.

I decided to read up on WHY certain foods are excluded from autoimmune protocol diet and other supposedly helpful diets. Based on that and listening to my own body I am trying to find my own way.

I mentioned I have started to keep a food diary. I have tried this with pen and paper before - I was never able to maintain it. However, I downloaded an app for my phone for this purpose and it is proving a much much better way to record what I eat and how I am feeling. The app I use is this one (there are others available for iPhone etc):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.geoffholden.android.fooddiary&hl=en_GB

[Ccconfucius]

i tried diet for two days and could not make it. I am going to ease myself into it instead by learning how to cook AIP meals, as i try a lesser form of the  that involves no wheat or milk.  From my readings it looks like coconut powder is the main substitute for wheat.  Also sweet potatoes is good source of necessary complex carbs.

[Prancer]

Great advice CertainlyPOIS & mellivora. Maybe better to ease into it. Also planning ahead several meals should make it a lot easier.

[Clycos]

Hey Guys,

Just a little update that goes along with some of my previous posts; you guys should read this woman’s story and her troubles with autoimmune disease and how she overcame it. If you look online you will find 100s of stories like this. Very inspirational, shows how much influence our gut has on the body other than just digestion and that its health is VITAL to overall wellbeing.

Here’s the link:

http://brittanyangell.com/how-i-kicked-my-autoimmune-disease-into-remission/

[Ccconfucius]

 This book has recipes and information about autoimmune diet. The best part about the book is its  4 week plan for new comers. Each week the plan has  recipes and grocery list to follow.
This should make it easier to test diet
http://www.amazon.com/Autoimmune-Paleo-Cookbook-Allergen-Free-Approach/dp/0578135213/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417891482&sr=8-1&keywords=autoimmune+paleo+diet

[dean93]

Hi all,

I was wondering if there were any significant additions pending to the compendium? I think that's generally the best, most organized source that there is. Were there any big breakthroughs that people were thinking of adding to the Compendium? I know that's what this whole thread is about, but I was wondering if anyone could run thru them briefly.

[ThisType]

U.S.
Awesome to finally find out about the existence of POIS and this forum! (thank you!)
Working on getting up to speed - it will take me a little while.

Any work towards doing a backwards mapping from symptoms with known immediate causes (from blood tests or other verified method) back towards ejaculation?  (e.g. brain fog -> low cortison (just example - not verified) -> ? -> ? -> ejaculation. )

Thanks!

[Quantum]

Hi ThisType and welcome to the forum!  You will feel less "alone in the world"  with this "problem"  :-)

Unfortunately, there is absolutely no blood test or any other objective way to detect or measure POIS, to this date.

Dr Waldinger is supposed to currently conduct a study about finding immune markers during the POIS acute phase, but we have no news of this study for now.

[ThisType]

Hi Quantum, thanks - I've dealt with the symptoms alone for a few decades (as it sounds like many have), so any community is a vast improvement
 

[ericseo]

Hello everyone..

I just want to say that i have found the answer and solution to our problem.. I know this is a big statement to say, but this is real, legitimate, no bs speculative under-researched doctor practices? I?m cured and I don?t remember the last time I felt this good in my life.. I was postponing this in order to write a massive post of why and how this treatment works but instead ill keep it short and simple, for those of you who don?t believe that it might be this simple its fine you don?t need to try it, I?m not here to convince anyone; however being a member of this community I feel like i have the obligation to share my success in the hope that other will benefit from it as well

Straight up? this is an AUTOIMMUNE DISORDER, people with autoimmune disorder are A LOT more likely to develop more autoimmune disorders as well as cancer later on in their lives. This is why WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT SYMPTOMS, some of us have multiple autoimmune illnesses? The disorder is real and its there, theres no doubt about that however IT IS REVERSABLE..
I felt like crying when I first saw my first bouts of improvement because I couldn?t believe how simple this was?? I have my life again!!!!

The answer to the autoimmune problem is REDUCE INFLAMMATION, do ANYTHING possible to reduce inflammation.. I don?t understand the mechanics of inflammation and autoimmune so I won?t start throwing medical terms around just to show you that I?m an expert in the field but it comes down to basics. We are not alone, you might think that POIS is very rare, however the TYPE of disease (autoimmune) is extremely common especially in the last couple decades for XY reasons that I won?t get in to right now; my point being is that there is a lot of research out there and I will leave it up to each one of you to do on your own. Whats important to know and understand is that 80% of the immune system is IN THE GUT, which means if your GUT is not healthy, your immune system is not healthy. From my understanding of the little medical knowledge that I have, when there is intestinal permeability (leaky gut), theres are UNDIGESTED FOOD PARTICLES that enter the bloodstream and the immune system gets in the habit of fighting them off and eventually leads to IMMUNE ANOMALIES (Ex. Arthiritis, Diabetes, MS, POIS)? So what am I saying here?

-Heal the gut and stop intestinal permeability, (intestinal permeability: "holes" in the lining of your intestine for the not english native speakers.
-REDUCE INFLAMMATION?. Inflammation is the number ONE cause of brain fog? Read up about this, there are tons of research out there proving this.. (BTW: Inflammation in the brain effects the Amygdala, the part responsible for emotional reasoning, hence the behavioural emotional side effects of a POIS attack)
-STOP EATING FOODS THAT TRIGGER THE IMMUNE SYSTEM

By doing these two things, first you?ll reduce symptoms as you will reduce inflammation, second you will heal the gut so the permeability no longer occurs, and eventually with time the immune system will go back to normal where it won?t be triggered by anything non-threatening anymore.

GUYS, all I?m gonna say is that people with food intolerance's can go through a whole life-time without diagnosis and without knowing they have them; you have to let go of the idea that food intolerances are follow by extreme body reactions such as rashes etcs? symptoms can be as subtle such as low energy, unclear thinking, behavioural problems, etc. And this is why for a lot of people symptoms continue to come back even after a week of O given that your body is STILL FIGHTING SOMETHING (Sign of multiple autoimmune disorders, very common). This is also the reasons why POIS gets worst with the years, autoimmune problems LEAD TO MORE AUTOIMMUNE problems. Solve it and deal with it as soon as possible before its too late! Its not a neurotransmitter issue nor endocrinological, Im not a doctor, perhaps there is a change in these hormones however you have to understand THESE ARE SECONDARY EFFECTS, NOT THE CAUSATIVE?You have TWO options to dealing with POIS (And any condition), Either you treat the symptoms OR you treat the cause once and for all? Im not willing to put up with POIS all my life so I decided to put an end to this?

Now the part you?re all probably waiting for.. I have dedicated my life to this, I have read TONS of researches? tr ial and error, it took me 5 years of suffering with POIS to come to the bottom of this.. I have also seeked spiritual therapy and I feel like someone up there has finally given me the chance to live again.. Because lets be real, a person with POIS is dead, and i feel like i have come back to life again?

The answer is DIET, it cannot get simpler than this!!! Individual supplements and vitamins DO NOT WORK, ARE INEFFECTIVE, WASTE OF MONEY. It is the interconnections and combinations of vitamins, minerals, antioxidants that work together to make the body work effectively. The human body is a superb, highly sophisticated and complex mechanism that has high nutritional needs of the best kind!
A simple vitamin C supplement will not work as each vitamin is INEFFECTIVE without the other? It tools me YEARS to realize this.. Ive wasted tons of money on supplements. A balanced Diet is the most important thing us POISERS need to do right given that our body is suffering and the more you let it suffer the more it will break down.. This disease is REVERSABLE TRUST ME..

What is this Magic diet?

Avoid every possible stomach irritant + replace inflammation causing foods with ANTI-INFLAMMATORY FOODS.
The foods you eat must posses two qualities: must be easy on the stomach and reduce or not cause inflammation.






The most common Stomach Irritants with people having autoimmune disorders and food intolerances in the world are the following (Foods to AVOID):

All grain products as well Gluten (Of course) So forget about bread and pasta
No nuts & seeds (This includes coffee and chocolate)
Animal milk Products 
Eggs
Tomatoes
Corn (So forget about gluten free products because most of them are made of corn)
Potatoes
Eggplants
Peppers (Including all specs derived from pepper such as: paprika, cayenne, etc)
Beans (Not as common but recommended to be avoided)
Alcohol (Sorry guys)
Cut out all proceed foods COMPLETELY, the trick: Avoid any food that has an ingredient that you don?t know in the ingredient list.. Essentially eat WHOLE foods!
Avoid over intake of Omega 6 (As it causes inflammation)
Avoid fried foods, fried oil causes inflammation

Note: It has been found that people have healed psychiatic conditions such as Aspergers and Autism by eliminating triggers from their diet! Just putting it out there.






So what should you eat?


Pretty much all fruits and vegetables, meats and fish.
They say in order for your body to absorb the maximum potential nutrients and have the fastest and most effective healing action, try to eat vegetables raw or cook them as little as possible.
Another thing recommended is to eat 9 cups of fruits and vegetables a day.. and eat a lot of greens! Spinach, kale (Superfood), etc
Take Omega-3?s with an EPA count of at least 1000-2000mg per day! Highly effective in inflammation reduction
Another powerful anti-inflammatory is Curcumin!! Very powerful stuff, I dont recommend supplements but our body needs to relax and reduce the inflammatory response ASAP, also for curcumin try to find one with ground pepper, research has shown that ground pepper helps its absorption.

Eat a lot of anti-oxidants!! Berries are very rich in them, they reduce inflammation as well, but be careful you need a variety of anti-oxidants given that when anti-oxidants neutralize cancer-causing free-radicals, themselves (the antioxidants) become free radicals which then again get neutralized by different antioxidants. AGAIN this is why you need VARIETY

ALSO: This is how behind medicine can be sometimes, Doctors treat autoimmune disorders with cortisol steroids that suppress the immune system so that it doesn?t attack itself. Again, besides the fact that your killing your body even more that way, this only treats the symptoms not the cause.. YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE PUT TO REST BY not letting it get activated by commong food triggers anymore; at the same time you should do everything possible to make it as strong as possible because it is weak now, overworked and overstressed, this means make sure you get your Vitamin C and Ds from FOODs as they are extremely essential for the immune system!

A study has also found that people with autoimmune disorders are a lot more likely to be deficient in Vitamin D so this is another supplements I would HIGHLY recommend you take along with Omega 3s and Curcumin (Optional)
Ginger (Another anti-inflammatory)
Exercise (The most powerful anti inflammatory of all)

Also note that when the stomach is not functioning well there is also mal-absorption, which means you dont get all the nutrition you need to heal, so work on healing the stomach by not eating stomach irritating, inflammation causing foods.

So summary, VARIETY + LOTS FRUITS AND VEGETABLES! I cant stress this enough..




Now for all the skeptics and controversy,  Im not posting this to argue and attack any other treatment/therapies/theories, Im just here to pass on a message and help anyone I can from this miserable illness. I would be more than glad to answer specific question feel free to send me a message? I haven?t kept a record of all the researches I have read, however dont be fooled, Im not the mastermind of this healing diet, theres actually a name to it and it is called Autoimmune Protocol Diet (AIP) and I can give you guys some links to find out more about this diet of how and why it works, what you can/cant eat. Many people have reversed more serious automate illnesses than POIS with this diet such as Multiple Sclerosis.. Many Many success stories.. regardless, this shouldn?t be only for healing.. this is a lifestyle change, it will take some time, but remember that your body is YOUR TEMPLE, its with you for the rest of your life so treat it well, illness or not! Have some faith, believe and it will happen, there is hope!!


Here are some links that pretty much summarize everything Ive said, feel free to check them out for yourself, because the trick to this is to understand why this works and not just here this from some nobody that just told you it works. Im not here to convince anyone just to help...


Terry Wahls  M.D. PhD, Suffered from Multiple Sclerosis  (VIDEO)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjgBLwH3Wc

What is Autoimmune Protocol Diet?
1) http://aiplifestyle.com/what-is-autoimmune-protocol-diet/
2) http://empoweredsustenance.com/autoimmune-paleo-getting-started/
3) http://paleospirit.com/2013/what-is-the-autoimmune-paleo-protocol/
4) http://www.thepaleomom.com/autoimmunity/the-autoimmune-protocol  <<<Great Website for Autoimmune Disorders and the Autoimmune Diet


Autoimmune Protocol Grocery List:
http://www.phoenixhelix.com/2013/06/02/paleo-aip-grocery-list/

Everything about Brain Fog and Inflammation (Research Studies)
http://selfhacked.com/2014/02/21/cause-brain-fog/



So much for my short post! I tried to keep it as short and sweet as possible..I can write a book about this believe me, please message me I would be more than glad to answer any questions:)
Last but not least, In order for this to work you must follow this diet 100%, NO CHEATING, a small trace of a common trigger can produce an immune response..  You need to teach your immune system to RELAX! Goodluck! stay strong you can do it, take care and love your body, you need to feed it rocket fuel and get it to run like a Ferrari again!!

Has anyone had any results from following this AUtoimmune diet??

[Going less Crazy]

Hello everyone..

I just want to say that i have found the answer and solution to our problem.. I know this is a big statement to say, but this is real, legitimate, no bs speculative under-researched doctor practices? I?m cured and I don?t remember the last time I felt this good in my life.. I was postponing this in order to write a massive post of why and how this treatment works but instead ill keep it short and simple, for those of you who don?t believe that it might be this simple its fine you don?t need to try it, I?m not here to convince anyone; however being a member of this community I feel like i have the obligation to share my success in the hope that other will benefit from it as well

Straight up? this is an AUTOIMMUNE DISORDER, people with autoimmune disorder are A LOT more likely to develop more autoimmune disorders as well as cancer later on in their lives. This is why WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT SYMPTOMS, some of us have multiple autoimmune illnesses? The disorder is real and its there, theres no doubt about that however IT IS REVERSABLE..
I felt like crying when I first saw my first bouts of improvement because I couldn?t believe how simple this was?? I have my life again!!!!

The answer to the autoimmune problem is REDUCE INFLAMMATION, do ANYTHING possible to reduce inflammation.. I don?t understand the mechanics of inflammation and autoimmune so I won?t start throwing medical terms around just to show you that I?m an expert in the field but it comes down to basics. We are not alone, you might think that POIS is very rare, however the TYPE of disease (autoimmune) is extremely common especially in the last couple decades for XY reasons that I won?t get in to right now; my point being is that there is a lot of research out there and I will leave it up to each one of you to do on your own. Whats important to know and understand is that 80% of the immune system is IN THE GUT, which means if your GUT is not healthy, your immune system is not healthy. From my understanding of the little medical knowledge that I have, when there is intestinal permeability (leaky gut), theres are UNDIGESTED FOOD PARTICLES that enter the bloodstream and the immune system gets in the habit of fighting them off and eventually leads to IMMUNE ANOMALIES (Ex. Arthiritis, Diabetes, MS, POIS)? So what am I saying here?

-Heal the gut and stop intestinal permeability, (intestinal permeability: "holes" in the lining of your intestine for the not english native speakers.
-REDUCE INFLAMMATION?. Inflammation is the number ONE cause of brain fog? Read up about this, there are tons of research out there proving this.. (BTW: Inflammation in the brain effects the Amygdala, the part responsible for emotional reasoning, hence the behavioural emotional side effects of a POIS attack)
-STOP EATING FOODS THAT TRIGGER THE IMMUNE SYSTEM

By doing these two things, first you?ll reduce symptoms as you will reduce inflammation, second you will heal the gut so the permeability no longer occurs, and eventually with time the immune system will go back to normal where it won?t be triggered by anything non-threatening anymore.

GUYS, all I?m gonna say is that people with food intolerance's can go through a whole life-time without diagnosis and without knowing they have them; you have to let go of the idea that food intolerances are follow by extreme body reactions such as rashes etcs? symptoms can be as subtle such as low energy, unclear thinking, behavioural problems, etc. And this is why for a lot of people symptoms continue to come back even after a week of O given that your body is STILL FIGHTING SOMETHING (Sign of multiple autoimmune disorders, very common). This is also the reasons why POIS gets worst with the years, autoimmune problems LEAD TO MORE AUTOIMMUNE problems. Solve it and deal with it as soon as possible before its too late! Its not a neurotransmitter issue nor endocrinological, Im not a doctor, perhaps there is a change in these hormones however you have to understand THESE ARE SECONDARY EFFECTS, NOT THE CAUSATIVE?You have TWO options to dealing with POIS (And any condition), Either you treat the symptoms OR you treat the cause once and for all? Im not willing to put up with POIS all my life so I decided to put an end to this?

Now the part you?re all probably waiting for.. I have dedicated my life to this, I have read TONS of researches? tr ial and error, it took me 5 years of suffering with POIS to come to the bottom of this.. I have also seeked spiritual therapy and I feel like someone up there has finally given me the chance to live again.. Because lets be real, a person with POIS is dead, and i feel like i have come back to life again?

The answer is DIET, it cannot get simpler than this!!! Individual supplements and vitamins DO NOT WORK, ARE INEFFECTIVE, WASTE OF MONEY. It is the interconnections and combinations of vitamins, minerals, antioxidants that work together to make the body work effectively. The human body is a superb, highly sophisticated and complex mechanism that has high nutritional needs of the best kind!
A simple vitamin C supplement will not work as each vitamin is INEFFECTIVE without the other? It tools me YEARS to realize this.. Ive wasted tons of money on supplements. A balanced Diet is the most important thing us POISERS need to do right given that our body is suffering and the more you let it suffer the more it will break down.. This disease is REVERSABLE TRUST ME..

What is this Magic diet?

Avoid every possible stomach irritant + replace inflammation causing foods with ANTI-INFLAMMATORY FOODS.
The foods you eat must posses two qualities: must be easy on the stomach and reduce or not cause inflammation.






The most common Stomach Irritants with people having autoimmune disorders and food intolerances in the world are the following (Foods to AVOID):

All grain products as well Gluten (Of course) So forget about bread and pasta
No nuts & seeds (This includes coffee and chocolate)
Animal milk Products 
Eggs
Tomatoes
Corn (So forget about gluten free products because most of them are made of corn)
Potatoes
Eggplants
Peppers (Including all specs derived from pepper such as: paprika, cayenne, etc)
Beans (Not as common but recommended to be avoided)
Alcohol (Sorry guys)
Cut out all proceed foods COMPLETELY, the trick: Avoid any food that has an ingredient that you don?t know in the ingredient list.. Essentially eat WHOLE foods!
Avoid over intake of Omega 6 (As it causes inflammation)
Avoid fried foods, fried oil causes inflammation

Note: It has been found that people have healed psychiatic conditions such as Aspergers and Autism by eliminating triggers from their diet! Just putting it out there.






So what should you eat?


Pretty much all fruits and vegetables, meats and fish.
They say in order for your body to absorb the maximum potential nutrients and have the fastest and most effective healing action, try to eat vegetables raw or cook them as little as possible.
Another thing recommended is to eat 9 cups of fruits and vegetables a day.. and eat a lot of greens! Spinach, kale (Superfood), etc
Take Omega-3?s with an EPA count of at least 1000-2000mg per day! Highly effective in inflammation reduction
Another powerful anti-inflammatory is Curcumin!! Very powerful stuff, I dont recommend supplements but our body needs to relax and reduce the inflammatory response ASAP, also for curcumin try to find one with ground pepper, research has shown that ground pepper helps its absorption.

Eat a lot of anti-oxidants!! Berries are very rich in them, they reduce inflammation as well, but be careful you need a variety of anti-oxidants given that when anti-oxidants neutralize cancer-causing free-radicals, themselves (the antioxidants) become free radicals which then again get neutralized by different antioxidants. AGAIN this is why you need VARIETY

ALSO: This is how behind medicine can be sometimes, Doctors treat autoimmune disorders with cortisol steroids that suppress the immune system so that it doesn?t attack itself. Again, besides the fact that your killing your body even more that way, this only treats the symptoms not the cause.. YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE PUT TO REST BY not letting it get activated by commong food triggers anymore; at the same time you should do everything possible to make it as strong as possible because it is weak now, overworked and overstressed, this means make sure you get your Vitamin C and Ds from FOODs as they are extremely essential for the immune system!

A study has also found that people with autoimmune disorders are a lot more likely to be deficient in Vitamin D so this is another supplements I would HIGHLY recommend you take along with Omega 3s and Curcumin (Optional)
Ginger (Another anti-inflammatory)
Exercise (The most powerful anti inflammatory of all)

Also note that when the stomach is not functioning well there is also mal-absorption, which means you dont get all the nutrition you need to heal, so work on healing the stomach by not eating stomach irritating, inflammation causing foods.

So summary, VARIETY + LOTS FRUITS AND VEGETABLES! I cant stress this enough..




Now for all the skeptics and controversy,  Im not posting this to argue and attack any other treatment/therapies/theories, Im just here to pass on a message and help anyone I can from this miserable illness. I would be more than glad to answer specific question feel free to send me a message? I haven?t kept a record of all the researches I have read, however dont be fooled, Im not the mastermind of this healing diet, theres actually a name to it and it is called Autoimmune Protocol Diet (AIP) and I can give you guys some links to find out more about this diet of how and why it works, what you can/cant eat. Many people have reversed more serious automate illnesses than POIS with this diet such as Multiple Sclerosis.. Many Many success stories.. regardless, this shouldn?t be only for healing.. this is a lifestyle change, it will take some time, but remember that your body is YOUR TEMPLE, its with you for the rest of your life so treat it well, illness or not! Have some faith, believe and it will happen, there is hope!!


Here are some links that pretty much summarize everything Ive said, feel free to check them out for yourself, because the trick to this is to understand why this works and not just here this from some nobody that just told you it works. Im not here to convince anyone just to help...


Terry Wahls  M.D. PhD, Suffered from Multiple Sclerosis  (VIDEO)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjgBLwH3Wc

What is Autoimmune Protocol Diet?
1) http://aiplifestyle.com/what-is-autoimmune-protocol-diet/
2) http://empoweredsustenance.com/autoimmune-paleo-getting-started/
3) http://paleospirit.com/2013/what-is-the-autoimmune-paleo-protocol/
4) http://www.thepaleomom.com/autoimmunity/the-autoimmune-protocol  <<<Great Website for Autoimmune Disorders and the Autoimmune Diet


Autoimmune Protocol Grocery List:
http://www.phoenixhelix.com/2013/06/02/paleo-aip-grocery-list/

Everything about Brain Fog and Inflammation (Research Studies)
http://selfhacked.com/2014/02/21/cause-brain-fog/



So much for my short post! I tried to keep it as short and sweet as possible..I can write a book about this believe me, please message me I would be more than glad to answer any questions:)
Last but not least, In order for this to work you must follow this diet 100%, NO CHEATING, a small trace of a common trigger can produce an immune response..  You need to teach your immune system to RELAX! Goodluck! stay strong you can do it, take care and love your body, you need to feed it rocket fuel and get it to run like a Ferrari again!!

Has anyone had any results from following this AUtoimmune diet??

Yeah, it's pretty much my whole diet and has worked for me.  My whole diet that 100% manages my POIS post.  I can pretty much vouch for it.  I also microdose turmeric, b-complex, and cats claw.  They help with inflammation and increase energy.

Edited: I don't take vitamin c

[ericseo]

That's really great to know. And How long exactly have you been on this diet??

[Going less Crazy]

That's really great to know. And How long exactly have you been on this diet??

Little more than 2 years.

[ericseo]

I have started this diet last week and I?ve already seen such amazing results. I play football in high school which involves intensive workouts and practices. Usually I would feel exhausted/depressed after every practice but prior to changing my diet I have been lethargic, energetic and felt really good after practices. This is such great news for me. I have one last question though. When did you start to O freely without symptoms? And would you say you still strictly follow this diet or have you been able to start eating foods from your past diet?

[Going less Crazy]

I have started this diet last week and I?ve already seen such amazing results. I play football in high school which involves intensive workouts and practices. Usually I would feel exhausted/depressed after every practice but prior to changing my diet I have been lethargic, energetic and felt really good after practices. This is such great news for me. I have one last question though. When did you start to O freely without symptoms? And would you say you still strictly follow this diet or have you been able to start eating foods from your past diet?

Ahh yes, at times exercise would kill me.  Increasing brain fog, inflammation and all that good stuff when I wasnt on my diet.

I would say probably in a week of consistently eating correctly I was able to O without symptoms.  I believe it was just bodily inflammation coming down.

I haven't really added anything back (grains/dairy/eggs/certain additives like aspartame and carrageenan) yet.  But occasionally I will eat something that I know I should not be eating like ice cream or reeses (dairy) or Doritos (corn) and that might mess me up for a day or two.

So I haven't been 100% with my diet because I still have intense food cravings.  But all of my symptoms have to do with the food i eat rather than having anything to do with orgasm.  So it's just a trade-off for food and good mood/clear head.  Sometimes I'll just eat the shit food.  However I religiously avoid gluten like the plague, because I still believe it is the worst and I probably at least have some version of celiac disease. 

So I'm not 100% with my diet and don't feel 100% 100% of the time because I'm not 100% on it.  But I could be 100% if I wanted it's just these cravings get the best of me.

What are you doing for carbs?  I honestly would be nowhere without GF black beans and sweet potatoes.

I wonder if you could just go gluten and dairy free or if you have to avoid as much as I do.

[ericseo]

I?ve been intaking carbs only through vegetables such as broccoli, asparagus, mushrooms, etc. I avoid all nightshades and eggs and stuff like that. And yeah I really understand the struggle of trying to keep up With the diet 100%. Whenever I see cookies or yogurt I can?t help but shove them in my mouth especially because I?ve just started completely avoiding junk food but I think time will fix that. I?ve also purchased a cookbook called the autoimmune paleo cookbook by Mickey trescott where I can learn a bunch of meals and comfort foods that I can incorporate in my diet. Sure there are a lot of foods that we can?t eat but theres also a ton of food that?s still available.

[whateverestest]

Hi all, this is my very first post here. Let me get right to the point.

What is lacking here for me, is a simple Survey or summerized like toppics where users can add option and vote about what had helped them with POIS.

Survey would state that only people who personally used some substance are asked to vote.
Votes would be on one of two options: helped me/didn't help me.

We have now access to really many resources around here, but what I do not see nor here nor on the internet is an simple survey like this. I've seen simillar voting options on other forums not realated to POIS but for other conditions.

The number of topics on POIS is absolutelly enormous and can be discouraging for people who come here first. The solution is here as follows.

I know that the issue is complicated and there needs to be done much reasearch over it, but for sake harm reduction a temporary solution will always be seeked too.

I personally tried many different things for POIS (CBD, SSRIs, SNRIs, other ADs, Vitamins, Nootropics, others) and would be glad to share my vote on them.

I wonder if this post will ever be seen at all, so pleas let me know if you agree, and advice how can we upvote it so it can come to live.

Cheers

[demografx]

whateverestest, welcome to the forum!