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whateverestest

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Depressive mood with long orgasm abstinence
« on: March 21, 2019, 12:41:09 PM »
I'm wondering if it's only me, but that has always been an issue for me. Along with orgasm abstinence I tend to get depressed thoughts like "we're all going to die anyways, what's the point of it". This has been an issue for me for a long time in the past, and I think it's returning now as I'm coming back to longer abstinence periods. I feel like on one hand I can remain in abstinence, act normal at the outside (in social situations and so on) and feel depressed, or have my POIS symptoms (which sometimes lead to depressive thoughts themselfs thorugh anxiety) but are generally less depressed then on abstinence.

Is this only me? Does somebody else has also simillar problem with depressive thought that occure with abstinence?

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Re: Depressive mood with long orgasm abstinence
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2019, 05:19:14 AM »
100% feel the same way. But the abstinence depression is more of a calm/emotional one where as the POIS one is just bluntness/irritability and anxiety that causes it.

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Re: Depressive mood with long orgasm abstinence
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2019, 02:03:35 PM »
Maybe you should visit a therapist to address those negative thoughts. This therapist could help you discover the source of this negative thoughts and give you a clear pathway to address your depression.

It seems we are dealing with two different states. It might help you to recover in your "abstinence state". Don't dismiss this advice since it is something that has worked out for people here previously.

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Re: Depressive mood with long orgasm abstinence
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2019, 02:14:24 PM »
Thanks, Observer.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Depressive mood with long orgasm abstinence
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2019, 12:22:31 PM »
Yes..

One of the things I realized with my last psychologists is there are some benefits to masturbation and starting to see trade offs. For a long time I only looked at masturbation in a negative light, given my struggles with POIS (severe brain for for 1-2 days after ejaculation).

However masturbation can be very calming and I find it helps me in some ways combat anxiety and even loneliness and depresssion as well. That's why i still ejaculate once a week (in addition to lack of self discipline - I would like to decrease to once every 2 weeks).

Understanding tradeoffs has helped me bu the struggle continues. Try to limit to once a week, but don't go too hard on yourself if you can't limit more than that. The fact is orgasm is helpful in many ways so there are *trade offs*.

 

whateverestest

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Re: Depressive mood with long orgasm abstinence
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2019, 03:27:18 PM »
Yes, there I see the trade-offs. One of pros of masturbation (if not using porn) is that you don't wanna **** everything that moves.
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But i rember in the past I could stay longer without masturbation. Now I'm in a constant state where after a week of abstinence I sometimes get so nervous, I'm nervous because I'm afraid of losing all the benefits of abstinence and that I will have to go through it again. Then I do it (have sex if possible, or masturbate) because I can't stand the nervousness... It's like a never ending cycle.

The most managed to stay without masturbation nowadays was 14days, but I don't know if I was better off than, because after 1st week I was very nervous about this fact that I can "loose all this in a moment", which resulted in an anxiety-like state (although I think little better then the orgasm induced-anxiety).

ps. I'm seeing a therapis...
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Re: Depressive mood with long orgasm abstinence
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2019, 12:46:15 PM »
Yes, there I see the trade-offs. One of pros of masturbation (if not using porn) is that you don't wanna **** everything that moves.
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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Depressive mood with long orgasm abstinence
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2019, 05:32:56 AM »
You can have peroids of celibacy ...but after many yearsof those periods your psychological symtpoms increase and you get angry, nervous and a bunch of other frustrations....sometimes to the point where you cannot sit sstill, read a book or watch TV.

When i was younger i actually had celibacy periods of years..now im 32 and its much harder barely able to stay celibate for 1 month.

One advantage is indeed that you stop valueing woman for sex but rather see them as human beings, this leads to better friendships and perspectives on life. Downside is i don't have any friends because of health problems

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Re: Depressive mood with long orgasm abstinence
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2020, 09:28:35 AM »
I definitely am not a fan of abstinence, here is why.

1) If I abstain, I enter the risk zone of a wet dream. This can happen at a very inappropriate time, when I have important stuff the next day. Even worse: if I don't take my garlic extract before O, things can go really wrong. I am better off scheduling the O and taking a garlic pill in preparation.

2) As noted, it's really depressing to think of abstaining. Else, if you keep a schedule, at least a few days of the week you live the way you'd like to. I would be horny the day of my scheduled orgasm, leave my important meetings for work for that day, put my best clothes, approach some women, maybe even go on a date, then masturbate, and then keep the cycle going. But at least that one day I feel satisfaction of a fulfilled day.

3) I sometimes think that at least partially, a reason for POIS might be the enormous loads of sperm that I ejaculate. I've had periods in my life with little/insufficient sexual activity. Maybe my body is not "used to" this and gets stressed out. Maybe my HR is not within what it should be. Maybe the immune system hasn't had enough of a chance to get used to my sperm and hence some kind of an allergic reaction. I don't know which of these. But I am against the idea of abstinence.