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Hopeoneday

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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2019, 09:58:03 AM »
You had a tipical symptomes of hypothyroism, swelling and water retention...
I dont hawe that, but hawe these hypothyroid symptomes: extreme fatigue,


    Difficulty concentrating
    Short-term and long-term memory problems
    Forgetfulness
    Lack of focus
    Feeling "spaced out"
    Confusion
    Difficulty thinking clearly

Muscle weakness
Hypersensitivity to touch or temperature

Fast or irregular heartbeats
Feeling faintish
Shortness of breath


I think that you "cure" is mainly because of bovine thyroid hormones that you uses.

Aobout your diet, man , what do you eat now? :) I mean, you dont eat carbs, no proteins---... fats only?
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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2019, 10:02:40 AM »
Interesting. The plot thickens!
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2019, 12:51:45 PM »
Indeed, the plot thickens further Demo, life is too good currently :)

Interesting. The plot thickens!
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POIS Free, 2+ yrs (occasional/predictive lapses)
Pois symptoms: Peripheral (Skin: Urticaria, dryness, pale blotchy skin), Exasperation of: [Nerve weakness, Muscle weakness + Mental (CNS: Brain Fog, Irritation, Isolation, Speech lethargy, Anxiety)].
Other conditions: ASD, ADD, GA

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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2019, 01:52:31 PM »
Well, there is a difference between 'no proteins' (what you are interpreting) and 'reducing proteins' (what I said), proteins are essential but care must be taken,  I do think though you are close to the truth HOD.

Aobout your diet, man , what do you eat now? :) I mean, you dont eat carbs, no proteins---... fats only?
POIS Free, 2+ yrs (occasional/predictive lapses)
Pois symptoms: Peripheral (Skin: Urticaria, dryness, pale blotchy skin), Exasperation of: [Nerve weakness, Muscle weakness + Mental (CNS: Brain Fog, Irritation, Isolation, Speech lethargy, Anxiety)].
Other conditions: ASD, ADD, GA

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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2019, 07:32:03 PM »
I think you might have modulated your immune system by taking T3 and T4.

Check this out: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2768616/#S8title

''Notably, in both experimental models, there was a sharp though transient drop in circulating T3 and T4 24-48 hrs after antigen exposure; recovery in circulating thyroid hormone levels began 3-4 days post-antigen challenge''

Dynamics of POIS symptoms show similar numbers in time. In my case POIS symptoms are at their peak after 24 hrs and recovery starts exactly after 4 days. This is very striking.

Thyroid hormones as modulators of immune activities at the cellular level.

''Thyroid hormones also affect natural killer cell activity and cell-mediated immune responses.'' (AKA type IV hypersensitivity)
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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2019, 02:20:08 AM »
Update:  It has been crazy but I have been having 2-3 ejaculations daily for last 10 days, feeling in top shape.  In over exuberance, yesterday I engaged in many many many times over and over, I think 8, during the last one  I did not feel good (some initial telltale signs of POIS, perspiration on my eyelids, followed by eye irritation and some growth inside eye lids).  My POIS gets noticeably worse right closer to 24 hrs, so I was not sure at the time.  And right now I am certain, I am going through POIS and I do not feel good.  I think its not as strong as before, but it is a smaller hell still, burning neural sensation on face, brain fog, quick temper, urticaria not as strong as before, loose skin.
POIS Free, 2+ yrs (occasional/predictive lapses)
Pois symptoms: Peripheral (Skin: Urticaria, dryness, pale blotchy skin), Exasperation of: [Nerve weakness, Muscle weakness + Mental (CNS: Brain Fog, Irritation, Isolation, Speech lethargy, Anxiety)].
Other conditions: ASD, ADD, GA

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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2019, 05:15:17 PM »
@swell
I just had my thyroid tested.
I had everything tested but the closest thing that might be off is the TSH.
My TSH is 0.57, so this could be hyperthyroid.
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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2023, 03:54:17 PM »
Hey @swell thank you for contribution.

I think I have a problem with the thyro?de, simply because by consuming 500mg of L-tyrosine compliment I felt a really spectacular relief from my POIS (the pois is gone at 70%) This acid amino that is tyrosine is necessary for the production of thyroid hormones that are thyroxine (T4).

I really want to do analyzes TSH, T3, T4, Reverse, etc. But I wonder if these analyzes I should do them before or after an O where my body is in a crisis of POIS  ?
@swell  Could you please make it more clearer about the treatment that worked for you.

Thanks,


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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2023, 07:19:25 PM »
Intresting.
I did want to try lugols for guts infection
(to treat posible guts infection relate to help me for pois).
I did read a lot about alternative medicine wich use lugoil to treat
different types of infections. (bacterial, parasitic...)
I couldn,t find it eny more in farmacy,
because it is not use "eny more oraly".
But i see that it can be buyed in some bio shops.

By the way Swell, what did i learned about thyroid is that functional medicine treat that disorder the the best.
They start to check from hypothalamus to reverse T3 hormones, lack of nutrients etc.

For oficial medicine, if yours TSH is 4.2 in range 1-4 , you are fine for them.
But actualy, if TSH 4 , 4,2 etc you are all redy in "hypo zone".

Here expleined, an web page with a lot of usefull tips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGsV2Ob0tqk

Hi Famas40, read around from up here what did he wrote,
and you will figure out whats did worked from him.
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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2023, 03:46:56 PM »
Hello guys, Ijust got my T3, T4, and TSH results, I have 8,69 mUI/L what do you think about my case ! Any help would be appreciated!
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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2023, 07:05:08 PM »
Well, acording yours results (tsh), "you are hypothyroid",
you must go to thyro doctor to check that.
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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #51 on: April 22, 2023, 10:12:32 PM »
updated.

My symptoms seem to have disappeared (at least i don't feel them) after trying a thyroid complex and taurine!
My POIS (first 2/3 days) didn't hinder me in either of my two ejaculations.
In average symptoms was starting after 1 day.
I dunno what helped me but I can say that something from this list (im sure 100%):

1. Thyroid complex.
2. Taurine.
3. Tea with lemon and ginger.
4. ?Neck exercises?.
5. ?Legs exercises?.
6. ?l-arginine and l-citruline complex?

p.s i use (1, 3) for everyday. Also i do a home workout every day. Taurine i take only after a ejaculation (2 tablets  (1000mg each)) also repeat a thyroid complex (1 tablet).

p.s.s also i take ~50mg of chelated zinc everyday and omega 3 (2 tablets), i experimented with high zinc and omega 3 dosage and i can say that this doesn't helps much, just for ~10%.
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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #52 on: April 23, 2023, 01:52:54 AM »
My symptoms seem to have disappeared (at least i don't feel them) after trying a thyroid complex and taurine!
My POIS didn't hinder me in either of my two ejaculations.

I dunno what helped me but I can say that something from this list (im sure 100%):

1. Thyroid complex.
2. Taurine.
3. Tea with lemon and ginger.
4. ?Neck exercises?.
5. ?Legs exercises?.
6. ?l-arginine and l-citruline complex?

p.s i use (1, 3) for everyday. Also i do a home workout every day. Taurine i take only after a ejaculation (2 tablets  (1000mg each)) also repeat a thyroid complex (1 tablet).

p.s.s also i take ~50mg of chelated zinc everyday and omega 3 (2 tablets), i experimented with high zinc and omega 3 dosage and i can say that this doesn't helps much, just for ~10%.

just to notice: first 1-2 days when i used a thyroid complex, sometimes my feces were green as if i pour a glass of green dye on them. > 2 weeks passed from that moment and i didn't have this strange situation anymore.

Maybe this information helps somebody.

Could you copy the ingredient list from the thyroid complex as it appears to me that no two products are the same. At least iodine, zinc, selenium, L-tyrosine and a variety of vitamin B seem to be frequent additions. However some may even contain Ashwagandha, Chitosan, Guggul, Forskolin, Garcinia Cambogia, Schisandra and a number of other herbs and minerals. By the way a tea blend to support thyroid function contains black cumin seed, nettle, ginger and licorice. They may even act in a synergistic way when combined.
The cause is probably the senescence of sexual organs and resultant inducible SASP, which also acts as a kind of non-diabetic metabolic syndrome.

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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #53 on: April 23, 2023, 04:44:27 PM »
Here it is.

Thyroid complex components
Vitamin B-12 (as cyanocobalamin)   100 mcg   
lodine (from kelp/potassium iodide)     150 mcg
Magnesium (as magnesium oxide)      200 mg
Zinc (as zinc oxide)                           8 mg
Selenium (as amino acid chelate)       200 mcg
Copper (as cupric oxide)                    0.2 mg
Manganese (as amino acid chelate)     2 mg
Molybdenum (as amino acid chelate)  50 mcg
L-Tyrosine                                        300 mg
Schisandra Fruit Powder                    240 mg
Ashwagandha Root Powder                200 mg
Bladderwrack Thallus Powder             50 mg
Cayenne Pepper Fruit Powder             30 mg
Kelp                                                 38 mg

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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2023, 02:14:42 AM »
Here it is.

Thyroid complex components
Vitamin B-12 (as cyanocobalamin)   100 mcg   
lodine (from kelp/potassium iodide)     150 mcg
Magnesium (as magnesium oxide)      200 mg
Zinc (as zinc oxide)                           8 mg
Selenium (as amino acid chelate)       200 mcg
Copper (as cupric oxide)                    0.2 mg
Manganese (as amino acid chelate)     2 mg
Molybdenum (as amino acid chelate)  50 mcg
L-Tyrosine                                        300 mg
Schisandra Fruit Powder                    240 mg
Ashwagandha Root Powder                200 mg
Bladderwrack Thallus Powder             50 mg
Cayenne Pepper Fruit Powder             30 mg
Kelp                                                 38 mg

I am glad it works so well for you! I have found more or less relief with some of these as well. I don’t think I have thyroid issues though and lab findings also don’t support this. A set of supplements may compliment several theories and it is difficult to tell which is the right one, but of course the important thing is that they actually improve our condition at least.
The cause is probably the senescence of sexual organs and resultant inducible SASP, which also acts as a kind of non-diabetic metabolic syndrome.

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Re: Thyroid Function and POIS
« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2023, 02:56:09 PM »
After a 3rd ejaculation i started to feel symptoms again.
Not so hard as before, but... It's 3rd day i don't ejaculate, and sometimes i've got a tough POIS symptoms, especially brain fog.
Also i noticed that my eyelids is twitching, it's because i did 3 ejaculations in a row (1 day 1 ej. so 3 days in a row). Also on abstinence, it's very very rare my eyelids is twitching. So i can say that problem didn't solved. I wrote my previous answer because it's first time i had no symptoms after 2 days. But after 3rd ej. as i said before i started to feel them.

Symptoms came but with more lag.. I noticed that 1 year ago. Because 2 years ago i started to feel the symptoms after 10-15 min.
Now (in average) i start to feel them on the next day. Last time, i started to feel them on 3rd day.

p.s i've updated my previous answer.
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