Do POISers have tall stature?

[BoneBroth]

I've read that if you have a hight androgen hormones and a hight level of stress as a teenanger (often related to acne) you will have a higher level of growth hormones (insulin-like growth factor-I, IGF-I, testosterone and super growth hormone DHT) and your body and limbs will grow long. There are studies in this area (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5002943/). Tall people have more problems with circulation, blood pressure, factors that seems to be related to POIS symptoms.

Maybe thats why alot of people here are very tall (1,9 meters, 2 meters). It would be interesting to confirm this hypothesis by knowing your length, and the length of your arms as well (measured from the bottom of the armpit to the top of the longest finger.). Compare with your siblings.

I am the tallest person in my family, 180 cm, and my arm is 78 cm. Had alot of stress as tennange. What about you?

[Vandemolen]

I am not tall. Just 172 cm. I don’t think this is an issue at POIS.

[demografx]

Not tall at all

[b_jim]

174 here

[Hopeoneday]

1.96 , girls chaising me all my life because of that.
And of course... a flckthem allll, buut... off from meeee  .
and all of tham apriciate that a lot (read they was angry as hell on me  ).

I dont think that tallnes hawae enithing with pois, but circulation and blod,
definitly hawe. Yao Ming pois   

[JohnJames]

I'm 6ft2 with an ape index of around +1 inch.

[BoneBroth]

I'm 6ft2 with an ape index of around +1 inch.

So that should be 1,98 cm? "Ape inxed" is off cource a better measure than just one arm.

Ape Index = Arm Span / Body Height
https://www.bergfreunde.eu/ape-index-calculator/

So your index would be 1,98 / 2 = 1,01? Mine is 1.06 (1,9 / 1,8) and that is about the same as the average arm-span-to-height ratio of an NBA players (1.063).

[swell]

188cm/63kg

[demografx]

I don’t think [height] is an issue at POIS.

The jury is still out

[demografx]

How Your Height Affects Your Health

https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/ss/slideshow-height-affects-health

[FernandoPOIS]

I am 190 cm. And I have low blood pressure.
But I can control my POIS keeping my spine healthy. Muscle strengthening and postural correction.
I believe that tall people are more likely to develop chronic spinal problems. Chronic inflammation is the cause of POIS.

[Hopeoneday]

Fernando, spine isues hawe nothing to do with how much you tall.
Something in pois inflamed my spine betwean sholders and part
of spine up prostate erea.
In me , those inflamation bring me shortenes of breath( one of my worst
 symptom pois with), lose muscules behidnd the legs(like somebody cut me
on half) because inflamation in lower back, exercise intolerant because of that,
because nerwes go tru that erea.
And this isnt the couse of poise in me, this is because pois.
(and underlaying ilnes wich couse pois in me).
Congnitiwe an iritatibility isues is dewastate but i can survive some how, but
withouth breathing is wery hard.

If somebody can explane what is this inflamation, this will explane half of
my pois symptomes if not all.

[Muon]

I agree with HOD. I also tend to think that POIS causes inflammation inside the spine and can result in chronic spinal problems, weakness, and/or postural problems, I don't see how height has anything to do with POIS though. I'm 177 cm btw.

[FernandoPOIS]

Surely you do not have to be tall to have spine problems. But if the person is tall and has little muscle mass, it is more likely to have muscle weakness and consequently there will be problems in the spine.
I believe that any chronic inflammation is capable of causing POIS due to the physical and chemical change that is caused by the stress generated by this inflammation. It can be intestinal, neurological or muscular, etc.

[Hopeoneday]

The closest thing that i can find is this: Transverse_myelitis
And AGAIN_look at the posible couses-pfffffff, and we cant prowe it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transverse_myelitis#Causes
From spirochele neuroboreliosis to viruses an parasits too...

[BoneBroth]

My point is that tallness is just a common attribute in some people with POIS, not a catalyst. It could be a clue to the biochemical process that causes POIS from the beginning, including growth hormones, DHT etcetera. People that have had an overproduction of DHT for a very long time are alsoe more likely to have aloecia. I believe this is aggravated when you also have body fluids with low pH, and one of the causes could be stress. Another is diet.

Thats why I would like to ask everyone here things like:

How long are you? Ape index?
Do you have thin hair?
Have you been subject to emotional or mental stress during long time preceeding or during the POIS?
During that period, did you eat much sugar and a very little vegetables and fruits?
Do you have low pH (low calcium/magnesium) symptoms like coated tongue, Candida, muscle cramp, tinnitus?

[Hopeoneday]

Yes , hi dht could be inwolwed in pois like low T.
Yes lot of poisers report carbs crawing in pois,
yes i hawe alopecia, coated tongue also reported some poisers,
yes big stres times, emotionly, in pois espesly cose it agrawated
10 times, yes tinitus in pois, muscule cramps to.

Do you think that some of us hawe some form of acidosis?
https://www.healthline.com/health/acidosis#symptoms

[BoneBroth]

Yes Hopeoneday, I believe that most of us have some form of acidosis.

Stress (physical + emotional + mental + high blood sugar) and oxidation are huge factors to cause acidosis. For example, cortisol is promoting a loss of minerals from the body and increasing the acid load which is also bad for your bones. There are over 100 diseases that are a direct cause of deiciency of calcium/magnesium. Male pattern baldness is caused by DHT in combination of low pH (the enzyme that break down testosterone to DHT works best in a low pH). The skin should be low pH but not that low.

So we have at least two separate illness cascades that works in synergy. Something like this:

1. Excess orgasm over time --> hormone overload --> impaired liver function --> bad hormone breakdown products --> oxidation --> inflammation --> POIS (and bad blood vessel condition)
2. Stress + lack of exercise --> hormone imbalances --> low pH --> acidosis --> male pattern baldness, coated tounge, candida, bone loss

Those lines are dependant on eachother to work! Only excess O will not cause POIS, but when you already have POIS you will be fine when you stop to have O/NE. Only stress will not cause POIS but when you have POIS and eliminate stress (meditation, holliday etc) and start exercising (yoga, running etc) you will see improvements.

This hypothesis will propose another supplement: calcium (with equal amounts of magnesium), and/or bicarbonate. I've been start taking a calcium supplement (2400 mg/day) with magnesium, vitamin d, zink, boron, colloidal minerals etc, 1-2 glasses of water with half a teaspoon of bicarbonate and start having at least one green smothie every day with half a lemon. I'm experiencing improvements in the over all health and sleep. Maybe it takes time for the pH to become normal after decades of POIS.

The supplements/diets are only quick fixes that chemically breaks those lines at diffrent stages, but as long as to dont fix the primary cause you are stuck with the supplements/diets.