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dizzy

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Inositol for red eyes
« on: June 20, 2018, 06:00:45 PM »
Hi,

I just want to note here that I've been taking inositol for a while now, and I have discovered that if I take 5 grams right after O, I can make my red eyes problem disappear. I have now reproduced this 5 times or so.

I should note that I have built up my inositol intake very slowly (starting with 1 gram a day, and now I'm at 15 grams a day). Apparently, if one goes too fast, then  side-effects may occur, such as bad mood.

Anyway, I was wondering what could be the reason?

I've found that inositol is a lipotropic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipotropic

I don't know what that means really, but the other lipotropics betaine, lecithin and methionine also help me (though not with red eyes).

Coincidence?

Male. POIS symptoms: red eyes, ear-pain, anxiety, speech problems, pale/ugly skin, stiff neck, double chin, tinnitus, light sensitivity. POIS even after stimulation without O.

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Re: Inositol for red eyes
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2018, 09:21:40 AM »
I suspect lipotropic substances (betaine, inositol, choline, taurine...) may help to cure some symptoms.
It seems choline rich foods suppress my gastitis symptoms... amazing.
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dizzy

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Re: Inositol for red eyes
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2018, 10:48:40 AM »
Yes, could be, and add methionine to the list.
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Re: Inositol for red eyes
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2018, 11:11:09 PM »
Hi dizzy,

Thank you for sharing about inositol. I am researching xanthine oxidase inhibitors, and myo-inositol is one of these inhibitors. So I am curious about your experience. How often do you take inositol? Do you take it daily at the same time? With food? Without food?

Thanks in advance  :)

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Re: Inositol for red eyes
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2018, 10:36:25 AM »
Interesting, since Inositol is a form of niacin.

You can find more info on this thread (Watch Daveman's comment):

https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=319.0

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Re: Inositol for red eyes
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2018, 03:56:35 PM »
Thank you for sharing about inositol. I am researching xanthine oxidase inhibitors, and myo-inositol is one of these inhibitors. So I am curious about your experience. How often do you take inositol? Do you take it daily at the same time? With food? Without food?

Hi nanna,

I'm taking about 3 grams daily of myo-inositol (brand: swanson), and I basically put it on top of some cornflakes with milk in the afternoon (it tastes like sugar).

My after-O-stack now contains this (myo-inositol + cornflakes), and also includes methylfolate and B12. But I think the inositol is responsible for reducing the redness in the eyes.

I'm not sure why. Someone else noticed that inositol is a lipotropic like betaine and methionine, and interestingly, those substances also help me in different ways, but the reason eludes me (could it be that lipotropics are aromatase inhibitors?)

Perhaps you could explain the significance of xanthine oxidase inhibitors when you have more evidence of their involvement.

Cheers!

PS: @Observer: as I understand it, inositol is quite different from niacin, but sometimes formulations of niacin include inositol to avoid the flushing effect.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2018, 03:59:18 PM by dizzy »
Male. POIS symptoms: red eyes, ear-pain, anxiety, speech problems, pale/ugly skin, stiff neck, double chin, tinnitus, light sensitivity. POIS even after stimulation without O.

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Re: Inositol for red eyes
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2018, 04:29:29 PM »
Thank you for sharing about inositol. I am researching xanthine oxidase inhibitors, and myo-inositol is one of these inhibitors. So I am curious about your experience. How often do you take inositol? Do you take it daily at the same time? With food? Without food?

Hi nanna,

I'm taking about 3 grams daily of myo-inositol (brand: swanson), and I basically put it on top of some cornflakes with milk in the afternoon (it tastes like sugar).

My after-O-stack now contains this (myo-inositol + cornflakes), and also includes methylfolate and B12. But I think the inositol is responsible for reducing the redness in the eyes.

I'm not sure why. Someone else noticed that inositol is a lipotropic like betaine and methionine, and interestingly, those substances also help me in different ways, but the reason eludes me (could it be that lipotropics are aromatase inhibitors?)

Perhaps you could explain the significance of xanthine oxidase inhibitors when you have more evidence of their involvement.

Cheers!

PS: @Observer: as I understand it, inositol is quite different from niacin, but sometimes formulations of niacin include inositol to avoid the flushing effect.

Maybe I am confused but this is what I found. You seem to be right about its use.

Inositol nicotinate, also called inositol hexanicotinate, is marketed in the United States as a "no-flush niacin" dietary supplement.[1] Flushing, in physiology, is a broad term that essentially means that epidermal tissues have become reddened, such as when the skin is irritated from the histamine responses related to an allergic reaction, or from recent physical exercise, or even from anger or embarrassment. This form of niacin is supposed to reduce or prevent flushing by being broken down into the metabolites niacin (nicotinic acid) and inositol at a slow rate.[1]

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Re: Inositol for red eyes
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2018, 03:58:54 AM »
I'm continuing to follow lipotropic diet : beetroot, spinach, quinoa (betaine) ; cantaloupe, eggs, oatmeal, almond (inositol) ; eggs, beef liver (choline).

It clearly improved my fats digestion but seems not to help more than taurine alone.
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Re: Inositol for red eyes
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2018, 06:42:52 AM »
@b_jim: I also found those foods to be beneficial (except the liver because I'm pescetarian, and the quinoa because I didn't try it yet). I also take 500mg of taurine at night currently. Have you found any explanation of its mechanism of action? Also, do you have similar symptoms as me (see below in my signature)?

I might as well write down my full regimen, perhaps you can find something of value in it:

Morning:
alpha lipoic acid 300mg sustain formulation (brand: Jarrow)
zinc 22mg
copper 1.25mg (needed because the alpha lipoic acid and the zinc both deplete copper)
boron 3mg (sometimes 9mg)
vit D 40mcg sublingual

Afternoon:
cornflakes with 3g myo-inositol
b-right complex (brand: Jarrow)
vit B5 500mg
magnesium glycinate (100mg)

Night:
alpha lipoic acid 300mg
taurine 500mg
biotin sublingual (not sure if necessary)
copper 1.25mg
vit D 40mcg sublingual

I also do the Wim Hof style breathing exercises (usually in the morning and after work).

After O:
cornflakes + 3g myo-inositol
B12 5000mcg (sublingual)
metafolin 500mcg (solgar)
niacinamide 500mg (ideally taken before O)

Whenever my protocol doesn't work, I add:
vit B1
manganese
molybdenum

I limit O to a maximum of 1 day a week. Watching porn makes things worse and I avoid it (I wonder if it is what got me here in the first place).

Every 2-3 days I take extra B12.

Foods that help me (besides the ones you listed already): currant buns with olive oil, green tea, peanuts (all in moderation)

@Observer: yes, now I remember, the inositol is chemically a ring-structure, with six OH groups attached to it. If you replace the six OH groups by six instances of niacin, you get inositol hexonicotinate (no-flush niacin). So when people buy no-flush niacin, the inositol is only there to hold the niacin and allow the niacin to release slowly.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2018, 07:12:43 AM by dizzy »
Male. POIS symptoms: red eyes, ear-pain, anxiety, speech problems, pale/ugly skin, stiff neck, double chin, tinnitus, light sensitivity. POIS even after stimulation without O.

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Re: Inositol for red eyes
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2018, 07:21:46 AM »
I don't have exactly the same pack of symptoms. More cognitive/muscular symptoms, not really "allergic".
I don't know how does it work. No hypthesis can be confirmed !
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