Parasites - Cause for POIS?

[positive_guy]

Do you think Parasites could be the cause for POIS?

[b_jim]

I am currently asking the same question. I wonder if helicobacter pylori might play a role in my Pois. Hypochondriac?  Yes, I admit I'm anxious for now ! 

[nanna1]

  I have repeatedly tested negative for H. pylori, and I have also tested negative for candida allergy. So at least for me, H. pylori and candida are not involved. I plan to post some of my test results Saturday. I am waiting on the hospital to officially release my medical records.

[Scrub]

I am currently asking the same question. I wonder if helicobacter pylori might play a role in my Pois. Hypochondriac?  Yes, I admit I'm anxious for now ! 

Wouldn't be so sure about H. pylori. I had POIS before having H. pylori, got medicated and cured and POIS is still there, nothing changed so far. 

[b_jim]

Thnaks 

[Hopeoneday]

Candida and h-p are not parasites or?

[Observer]

Candida and h-p are not parasites or?

Hello Hopeoneday, I would rule out candida in principle.

I know that there is a candida test out there in the internet, but its efectiveness is zero. You might have a look at the following website, which outlines the facts and fiction surrounding candida.

https://www.smartlivingnetwork.com/cold-flu/b/candida-fact-and-fiction/

[Vandemolen]

There are a few risks for getting infected by a parasite:
Low vitamin D
Frequent use of antibiotics
Frequent use of SSRI
If you have an immune problem

For example clostridium difficile is one of the parasites that can give a lot of problems.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3651296/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3871280/

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/c-difficile/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20351697

[fernab]

In my case neither Helicobacter pylori nor Candida is present.

I remember I did a very complete fecal analysis trying to find any relevant parasitic or bacterial overgrowth. but nothing relevant came out. I have to search this test result again. But I would swear clostridium difficile was not present on my case....

Moreover, I had a time when I already had the symptoms of POIS, in which with a long period of total abstinence, I began to find much better. so much, that I began to have the feeling of being completely healthy. Until I had an ejaculation again. in which as a result of it I started again to feel bad. And the healthy sensation was as long as the abstinence period lasted.

This is one of the reasons that makes me suspect that it is not due to an active infection. although I do not rule out a latent infection. or a past infection. but if it were a latent infection it would have to be because of something that wakes up with arousal! ... and that, although I do not have the absolute truth ... it seems strange to me ... maybe I could fit in with something like a herpes virus? Or similar?.... To find it out research and maybe a lot of data would be needed.

Will try to search this fecal test I am talking about and confirm It....

[Vandemolen]

A lot of people have the clostridium difficile in them. But when your gut is healthy it will not cause any problems. But if you have an inbalance the clostridium difficile will grow and the symptoms will start. What if POIS affects the gut and creates an environment where the clostridium difficile can grow? And after 4 days the gut is in balance again and the symptoms dissapear. The only thing is that clostridium difficile often causes dhiarea. A lot of POIS-patients do not have that. But it could be another parasite?

[fernab]

A lot of people have the clostridium difficile in them. But when your gut is healthy it will not cause any problems. But if you have an inbalance the clostridium difficile will grow and the symptoms will start. What if POIS affects the gut and creates an environment where the clostridium difficile can grow? And after 4 days the gut is in balance again and the symptoms dissapear. The only thing is that clostridium difficile often causes dhiarea. A lot of POIS-patients do not have that. But it could be another parasite?

Of course, no one can confirm today that POIS is caused by any unknow or difficult to find infectious agent.

But I also think that if that was the case, only throught research this could be confirmed.

Today we have means to detect clostridium difficile. Even if It is difficult to detect. But if your result ruled out Negative.... What would you do? How many different parasites exist?

You could enter an endless spiral.... But of course you can go to an infectologist (internist specialised on infections).... And try to search anything....

This was exactly what I did at the beginning of my POIS. But we never found any infectious agent!!!.... But even after that, I can not assure POIS is not due to an unkown infection (or any latent infection like herpes family viruses is)....

[Iwillbeatthis]

What do you guys think about the so called rope worms? Many people seem to think they are either parasites or biofilm but skeptics say they are just intestinal lining. It seems people with chronic diseases feel better after clearing these out but is it just placebo or are they actually removing something bad from their body. I am not sure but I'm leaning towards the side that they are not parasites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFSyP2dJKY Chronic fatigue patient explaining them.

Another highly controversial topic is MMS (Miracle Mineral solution) which some people use to kill these things. People with lyme and chronic fatigue say that this is the most effective treatment they've tried so it must work in some way. Whether it causes internal damage to the body is another question. News outlets and skeptics say this is just bleach and it will ruin your body and is highly dangerous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ptuJDbnlTk&t=380s this guy seems rational and has good success with it.

Personally I think it does seems fishy as it was founded by a scientologist and some of the claims like curing people of aids in Africa seem fabricated and absurd. However I do believe it can kill certain pathogens which other remedies are unable to.

I am too scared to try MMS as it seems risky and could easily be dangerous.

What do you guys think?

[fernab]

I would never use that kind of products without at least medical supervision. But at least in my country, official medicine does not advise it. so I think I would never use it. It is my personal opinion.

[Iwillbeatthis]

Neither would I and I don't think there is any country in the world which would advise it.

[fernab]

Neither would I and I don't think there is any country in the world which would advise it.

I completely agree! I don't think it is advised in any country...

[swell]

Guys just think about it ... If you have slow 'gastric' emptying, delayed 'metabolic functions', slow neurological or muscle contractions/peristalsis, your body is prone to HPylori/Candida/parasites and much much more like lower Testosterone production.  I am not saying you have it or you dont, I am saying is, these are all functions "regulated" by your THYROID.   Lower Testosterone = Hypo-thyroidism,  High Testosterone = Hyper-thyroidism.  Docs and our dear pharma loves to unveil new expanded drugs and new expanded diseases to treat HPylori or Candida or some new xyz, but nobody wants to go to the intrinsic causes.  Stress and Thyroid (are an inter-related loop).  But while stress is hard to eliminate, but fortunately thyroid is easy to treat (and it aids in treating stress hormones too).  POIS is hormonal.  You are being made fools (all because of an ideological fault line that developed in the medical profession, and while those that cocked the guns are long long gone, but we are left with their mess ... treating each symptom as a disease with a corresponding pharma medicine), so you are being fools when you go to a clinic and get tested for TSH and T4 and come out believing your thyroid is ok.  nanna1 we need your help!!!

[Hopeoneday]

Swell, you are wright in a lot of things here mentioneded, but i think that Nana "cant help you here" unfortunately, only doctors who can help here are highly treined functional
doctors with scientific aproach...

[fernab]

I agree with swell that the root cause for POIS could be hormonal....

Perfectly one of the possibilities....

[Hopeoneday]

Definitly agree, but i alsou think that some kind of infection could be the root couse of that.

[fernab]

indeed the possible cause is not just one. the infections are there as a possible cause as well. I respect that. and more so as long as there is no more clear and precise information about it. but to get to clarify something like that, I think it is necessary to research. otherwise this could be like discussing the sex of the Angels ...

but I would like to add that I am less inclined to think that it is motivated by an infection. the same thing in the end turns out that I am wrong ..... but POIS is still considered a rare disease and that is because we are few. if the reason was the infection. Why are we so few? Why is not it much more widespread?

And another thing is, because when I was in the past in a long period of abstinence I improved so much? to the point of finding myself pretty well at all?

And coincidentally after that long period, well, I return to feel bad curiously after an emission?.... it would therefore be an infection that wakes up every time there is an emission?

could fit with something latent virus type in the nervous system, yes. but then why are we so few Poisers? the family of herpes viruses is widespread ... it should be for more than just the virus (as a root cause). Genetic propensity should be added? Area of the nervous system where the virus has hidden should be added? .... I'm not saying it's impossible ... but I see it complicated. And only a good research could give some light to this very complex riddle ... I guess....