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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results
« Reply #700 on: June 08, 2022, 07:50:02 AM »

Another lucky POISer cured by antibiotics!

H pyl..  diagnosed, antibiotics cleared hidden infection
in his body I suppose
https://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/v7eyva/pois_im_cured_this_is_my_story_hope_it_can_help/


Interesting!  I think Clarithromycin is one of the only antibiotics I haven’t tried - I used pylera to clear my h pylori.  Might be worth a shot.
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« Reply #701 on: June 08, 2022, 09:37:33 AM »

Another lucky POISer cured by antibiotics!

H pyl..  diagnosed, antibiotics cleared hidden infection
in his body I suppose
https://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/v7eyva/pois_im_cured_this_is_my_story_hope_it_can_help/


Interesting.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2022, 12:17:33 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #702 on: July 02, 2022, 07:27:33 AM »
Low vit D, high WBC count in prostatic fluid and response to methylprednisone and celebrex. Is there a correlation between these? If so can we define a subgroup of POIS? What type of WBC is dominant? He got the diagnosis prostatitis. In this case IL-8 (in semen) could be investigated because it’s being discussed as marker for prostatitis (MC mediator, neutrophil chemotactic factor, hypersensitivity type4d).
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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #703 on: July 02, 2022, 09:54:14 AM »
Username: PoisMen2036
https://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/vo8adt/hormonal_profile_of_pois/

Fast, Male, born in 1981. Age? POIS state?

Values in ng/ml:
17-hydroxyprogesterone: 1.40 (<1.39)
21-deoxycortisol: 0.03 (0.00-0.68)
Androstenedione: 1.15 (0.23-0.89)
Dihydroandrosterone: 7.96 (0.63-4.70)
Deoxycorticosterone: 0.09 (0.00-0.19)
Cortisol: 202.7 (46-206)
Cortisone: 39.8 (12-35)
Corticosterone: 10.03 (1.30-8.20)
Progesterone: 0.19 (<0.11)
Testosterone: 4.89 (3.00-8.90)
11-Deoxycortisol: 0.94 (0.00-0.59)
17-OH-Pregnenolone: 6.15 (0.00-4.42)

No time for resarch, what those abnormalitys meaning?
Tumor on adrenal glands???( i did so before that some
poisers hawe disorders on glands).
Kongenital?
« Last Edit: July 02, 2022, 09:58:27 AM by Hopeoneday »
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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #704 on: September 04, 2022, 01:37:52 PM »
Seems to me that hight cortisol is a common denominator amongst the test results. The body is doing what it can to battle the inflammation and cortisol has to be as high as needed, even if it shoots out of range - If not it might be even worse. So eat the raw materials to build cortisol (eggs, cholesterol, B-vitamins) while fighting the POIS root cause. But eating an antiinflammatory diet might relieve the body from producing hight cortisol all the time and long term high cortisol has terrible side effects for the body. I'm still in a battle with my SIBO/leaky gut. Each little dietary misstake I make ruins my life. So does O, as the inflammation messes up the intestinal function.
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« Reply #705 on: September 19, 2022, 04:47:34 AM »
Two poisers find bacteria in theirs semen culture tests:

https://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/xgi5wb/results_of_my_semen_culture_test/

https://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/w4sdo5/testing_semen/

Escherichia coli
Enterococcus faecalis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterococcus_faecalis

E. faecalis contains a tyrosine decarboxylase enzyme capable of decarboxylating L-dopa, a crucial drug in the treatment of Parkinson's disease. If L-dopa is decarboxylated in the gut microbiome, it cannot pass through the blood-brain barrier and be decarboxylated in the brain to become dopamine.

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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #706 on: September 20, 2022, 01:28:53 PM »
I wonder how those poisers get bacteria in theirs semen?
Bad root chanels??? Leaky gut??
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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #707 on: September 25, 2022, 10:35:04 AM »
Two poisers find bacteria in theirs semen culture tests:

https://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/xgi5wb/results_of_my_semen_culture_test/

https://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/w4sdo5/testing_semen/

Escherichia coli
Enterococcus faecalis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterococcus_faecalis

E. faecalis contains a tyrosine decarboxylase enzyme capable of decarboxylating L-dopa, a crucial drug in the treatment of Parkinson's disease. If L-dopa is decarboxylated in the gut microbiome, it cannot pass through the blood-brain barrier and be decarboxylated in the brain to become dopamine.

Catuaba bark has antimicrobial activity against both species. It may also increase serotonin, dopamine and acetylcholine. Catuaba may decrease fatigue and have an antidepressant effect. It can improve libido, but of course some of us would rather avoid this. Nevertheless some members may find great relief with it just as I did.
https://mybiohack.com/blog/catuaba-trichilia-catigua-erythroxylum

By the way Triphala is also effective against Enterococcus faecalis in a chronic periodontitis setting.
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1089/acm.2017.0083
« Last Edit: September 25, 2022, 10:42:25 AM by Progecitor »
The cause is probably the senescence of sexual organs and resultant inducible SASP, which also acts as a kind of non-diabetic metabolic syndrome.

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« Reply #708 on: September 30, 2022, 05:15:16 PM »
For what it's worth... Fluoroquinolones were a successful bet against my own prostatic infection. Beta-lactamines weren't sufficient. The prostate is notoriously difficult to reach and treat.

New sperm culture. This time, no bacteria was found. It looks like the fluoroquinolones worked.

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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #709 on: October 05, 2022, 10:44:51 AM »
So finally I managed to visit the local Endocrinologist. I hoped that with some evidence they are finally going to listen to me, but it was rather in vain. They did not even want to listen to any of my experiences with supplements or any theories pertaining to them. The doctor explicitly stated that they aren't going to prescribe any kind of medication unless it was justified by some tests even if they were effective for other patients. So I begged for some hormonal tests and at least they were willing to do some that they thought could be informative. "Unfortunately" I was not expecting a blood test right away and I was feeling quite alright as I had the last O about two weeks before. I still had some symptoms like photophobia at the time, but it wasn't the most representative state for acute POIS. As a reference I was on Chaga supplementation and even took some in the morning when this happened if it matters anything.

So here are the results:
sTSH:                        2.300 mU/L (0.300-4.200)
Total calcium:            2.47 mmol/L (2.10-2.60)
Phosphate:                0.86 mmol/L (0.8-1.45)
Glucose:                    5.5 mmol/L (3.6-6.0)
IgF1:                        138.8 ug/L (107.8-246.7)
17 beta-Estradiol:  45.80 ng/L (7.6-42.6)
FSH:                         3.91 IU/L (1.5-12.4)
LH:                           4.88 IU/L (1.7-8.6)
PRL:                         6.14 ug/L (4.1-21.4)
Testosterone:            22.160 nmol/L (9.90-27.80)
SHBG:                      48.29 nmol/L (11.4-52.3)
DHEAS:                    7.150 umol/L (2.400-11.500)

The doctor's advice sent with the letter says that the results are completely fine and no intervention is required. Well I can't say I was too surprised as I somewhat expected mostly normal results anyway. At least it is interesting that I had a slightly elevated E2 level which may explain why I had success with several aromatase inhibitors and could be indicative of a suspected estrogen dominance. Of course I have been non-stop trying new supplements and it can't be excluded that a higher E2 is the result of some of the stuff I took earlier, although it is also true that I was testing DHEA about 2 weeks before and it doesn't appear in the test. Testosterone is actually somewhat above average, but still testosterone boosters help me. It may be nothing, but still worth mentioning that phosphate is closer to the lower limit, while SHBG to the upper reference limit. At least these values are representative for my baseline CFS state, but in the future I plan to make a more representative test in acute POIS with some other hormones included like DHT, progesterone and cortisol even if this time I have to pay for it as doctors are not likely to help me any more.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2022, 10:47:29 AM by Progecitor »
The cause is probably the senescence of sexual organs and resultant inducible SASP, which also acts as a kind of non-diabetic metabolic syndrome.

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« Reply #710 on: October 06, 2022, 12:45:11 PM »

…I managed to visit the local Endocrinologist…


Progecitor…One thing seemed to help me: when I visited this university endocrinologist…


A famous Harvard biophysicist - - who was once a classmate of mine - - recommended to me that a
university-based endocrinologist might be a better choice for me/POIS, because POIS is not well known and experimental treatments might be better tolerated in a university environment vs a more traditional medical practice;
University-affiliated doctors might be willing to be more *experimental* with POIS vs more traditional docs.

I found that to be true and stuck with this endocrinologist for years until he moved out-of-state.

To this day, 12 years later, I continue to work with university-based endocrinologists for my POIS.

Even if your choice of a POIS doctor is not endocrinology, you may wish to consider a university-affiliated orientation for your selection of primary care and/or specialized medical practitioner.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2022, 04:56:31 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #711 on: October 06, 2022, 01:01:47 PM »

…I managed to visit the local Endocrinologist. I hoped that with some evidence they are finally going to listen to me, but it was rather in vain. They did not even want to listen to any of my experiences…


Progecitor, I had the exact same frustrating experiences.

One thing seemed to help me: when I visited this one university endocrinologist 12 years ago, I showed him the 2002 POIS article - - the very first one that introduced the concept & name of “POIS” - - written by Dr Marcel Waldinger.

I pointed out to him that
Dr Waldinger’s co-author is an endocrinologist!

POIS Research Study 2002
Dr. Dave H. Schweitzer

Dr. Dave H. Schweitzer, co-author of the original 2002 POIS Study with Dr. Marcel Waldinger, who is also in touch with our forum here, since 1994 is an internist-endocrinologist in Reinier de Graaf Groep, Netherlands. His interest is mainly in hormonal diseases and diseases of the metabolism. He does research on the endocrinology of sexuality and seriously overweight. His work is published in international journals.

« Last Edit: October 06, 2022, 05:56:43 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results
« Reply #712 on: February 17, 2023, 08:50:30 AM »
Guys what do you think about my TSH results ?


Your TSH is very high, test antibodies and reverse T3 - you may need Thyroid medicine

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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #713 on: March 08, 2023, 03:23:06 AM »
Semen analysis (took 2 covid vaccins almost 2 years ago):
https://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/11lbhz5/i_just_got_my_semen_analysis_report_and_they_dont/
Click on picture to enlarge:


This is an interesting finding. There are some information that could be pertaining to this condition.

Some factors that could be involved in lower sperm motility:

In the sexually mature male (MS) macaques, various spermiogenesis-related DEGs were identified, including TSSK2, HSP90AA1, SOX5, SPAG16, and SPATC1. Testis-specific serine/threonine kinase 2 (TSSK2), which is expressed exclusively in spermatids, is a member of the TSSK family and plays an essential role in male fertility. Double knockout of TSSK1/TSSK2 results in abnormal sperm development in mice. Heat shock protein 90 (HSP90) is a key factor affecting post-meiotic differentiation of mammalian sperm. Targeted disruption of the HSP90AA1 gene can lead to male infertility in mice. Furthermore, HSP90 can prevent ubiquitination and degradation of TSSKs and is critical for their activation. Sperm-associated antigen 16 L (SPAG16L), a major transcript isoform of SPAG16, encodes proteins related to cilia/flagella formation and motility. SPAG16L deficiency can lead to male infertility, associated with impaired sperm motility. Short SRY-box transcription factor 5 (S-SOX5), a form of SOX5 transcript, is expressed in post-meiotic round spermatids. S-SOX5 may participate in the formation of motile cilia/flagella via activating SPAG16L. Similarly, down-regulation of the spermatogenesis and centriole associated 1 (SPATC1) gene can reduce sperm fertility, although the exact function of SPATC1 is unknown. Thus, the up-regulation of these DGEs (TSSK2, HSP90AA1, SOX5, SPAG16, and SPATC1) in our study suggests that MS macaques have better sperm fertility, an important criterion of sexual maturity.
https://assets.researchsquare.com/files/rs-2229246/v1/ee4313ff-53e4-44fb-8447-66b357e09d65.pdf?c=1668543014

In our experiments, estradiol (E2) induced sperm motility at 1 and 10 nM, after then it significantly decreased at 1mM, showing a biphasic effect. The massive presence of ERbeta in the flagellum may indicate an important role in the sperm motility.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stefania-Marsico/publication/49857930_Human_sperm_physiology_Estrogen_receptor_alpha_ERa_and_estrogen_receptor_beta_ERb_influence_sperm_metabolism_and_may_be_involved_in_the_pathophysiology_of_varicocele-associated_male_infertility/links/5cdd31f6299bf14d959cecdc/Human-sperm-physiology-Estrogen-receptor-alpha-ERa-and-estrogen-receptor-beta-ERb-influence-sperm-metabolism-and-may-be-involved-in-the-pathophysiology-of-varicocele-associated-male-infertility.pdf

When the testis-torsioned rats were given ERbeta agonist during the detorsion period, tubular injury was lessened, sperm count and motility were increased, while the production of reactive oxygen metabolites and apoptosis in the testis tissues were totally suppressed. Although a down-regulated expression of androgen receptor (AR) along with a reduction in serum testosterone level was observed in the vehicle-treated T/D group, all three treatments up-regulated the expressions of AR and its mRNA, while ERalpha agonist and E2 suppressed the testosterone level.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0024320519301468

Similarly calcium is required for the normal spermatogenesis and for normal sperm motility and fertilization. Therefore, therapeutic administration of Calcium channel blockers (CCBs) has been correlated with iatrogenic male infertility. This infertility may be due to decreased testosterone production, suppression of spermatogenesis or decrease in sperm motility. Any agent that may increase testosterone production and spermatogenesis can be helpful for enhancing fertility in patients taking CCBs.
http://www.pps.org.pk/PJP/15-4/Sidra.pdf

Higher levels of endocannabinoids appeared to be linked to low sperm motility, and to a decrease in the percentage of motile and progressive cells. The negative effect of AEA on sperm motility could be exerted directly on the sperm cells via an intracrine activation of the CB1 receptor present on the sperm membrane, which could reduce the mitochondrial activity, the principal source of energy for the motile sperm cell.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/andr.12785

An inverse relationship between sperm motility and AEA concentrations in seminal fluid and OEA levels in blood serum has been found; conversely, PEA levels in semen were positively linked to sperm concentration, whereas in seminal fluid the levels of OEA and PEA, that exhibit antioxidants properties, were associated with better sperm morphology.
https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/22/2/972/htm

Mumps orchitis typically resolves within two weeks. In 20% of cases, the testicles may be tender for a few more weeks. Atrophy, or reduction of size, of the involved testicle occurs in 30–50% of orchitis cases, which may lead to abnormalities in sperm creation and fertility such as low sperm count, absence of sperm in semen, reduced sperm motility, reduced fertility (hypofertility) in 13% of cases, and rarely sterility. Hypofertility can, however, occur in cases without atrophy. Abnormalities in sperm creation can persist for months to years after recovery from the initial infection, the length of which increases as the severity of orchitis increases. There is a weak association between orchitis and later development of epididymitis and testicular tumors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumps

Some evidence based ways to increase sperm motility:

- saffron
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6277668/

- Masculine (asafoetida)
https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOALTMEDJ/TOALTMEDJ-1-102.pdf

- Ruta chalepensis leaves
- Shengjing pill
- Croton zambesicus
- Korean ginseng (P. ginseng)
- Nigella sativa oil
- Phoenix dactylifera date palm pollen
- pomegranate (Punica granatum)
- Astragalus membranaceus and Acanthopanacis senticosi
- Decoctions of Semen cuscutae, Rhizoma curculiginis and Radix morindae officinalis
- L. meyenii (Maca)
- Speman (a formulation of several medicinal plants)
- T. terrestris, Asparagus recemosus and Withania somniferea
- Kan Jan(TM) (mixture of Andrographis paniculata and Acanthopanax senticosus)
- Powder of Mucuna pruriens seeds
https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s12610-009-0030-2.pdf

- Shengjing capsules (ginseng, Cordyceps sinensis, Epimedium, and medlar)
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ecam/2019/8494567/

- almond
- mixed nuts (walnuts, almonds and hazelnuts)
https://sci-hub.se/https://ift.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1541-4337.12752

- Brassica rapa, Prunus amygdalus and Zingiber officinale
https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/abs/10.1142/S0192415X89000103
The cause is probably the senescence of sexual organs and resultant inducible SASP, which also acts as a kind of non-diabetic metabolic syndrome.

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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #714 on: March 10, 2023, 07:01:18 AM »
So finally I managed to visit the local Endocrinologist. I hoped that with some evidence they are finally going to listen to me, but it was rather in vain. They did not even want to listen to any of my experiences with supplements or any theories pertaining to them. The doctor explicitly stated that they aren't going to prescribe any kind of medication unless it was justified by some tests even if they were effective for other patients. So I begged for some hormonal tests and at least they were willing to do some that they thought could be informative. "Unfortunately" I was not expecting a blood test right away and I was feeling quite alright as I had the last O about two weeks before. I still had some symptoms like photophobia at the time, but it wasn't the most representative state for acute POIS. As a reference I was on Chaga supplementation and even took some in the morning when this happened if it matters anything.

So here are the results:
sTSH:                        2.300 mU/L (0.300-4.200)
Total calcium:            2.47 mmol/L (2.10-2.60)
Phosphate:                0.86 mmol/L (0.8-1.45)
Glucose:                    5.5 mmol/L (3.6-6.0)
IgF1:                        138.8 ug/L (107.8-246.7)
17 beta-Estradiol:  45.80 ng/L (7.6-42.6)
FSH:                         3.91 IU/L (1.5-12.4)
LH:                           4.88 IU/L (1.7-8.6)
PRL:                         6.14 ug/L (4.1-21.4)
Testosterone:            22.160 nmol/L (9.90-27.80)
SHBG:                      48.29 nmol/L (11.4-52.3)
DHEAS:                    7.150 umol/L (2.400-11.500)

The doctor's advice sent with the letter says that the results are completely fine and no intervention is required. Well I can't say I was too surprised as I somewhat expected mostly normal results anyway. At least it is interesting that I had a slightly elevated E2 level which may explain why I had success with several aromatase inhibitors and could be indicative of a suspected estrogen dominance. Of course I have been non-stop trying new supplements and it can't be excluded that a higher E2 is the result of some of the stuff I took earlier, although it is also true that I was testing DHEA about 2 weeks before and it doesn't appear in the test. Testosterone is actually somewhat above average, but still testosterone boosters help me. It may be nothing, but still worth mentioning that phosphate is closer to the lower limit, while SHBG to the upper reference limit. At least these values are representative for my baseline CFS state, but in the future I plan to make a more representative test in acute POIS with some other hormones included like DHT, progesterone and cortisol even if this time I have to pay for it as doctors are not likely to help me any more.
Did you mention POIS specifically to the doctor or show the research papers? What did he think of it

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« Reply #715 on: March 10, 2023, 02:23:40 PM »
So finally I managed to visit the local Endocrinologist. I hoped that with some evidence they are finally going to listen to me, but it was rather in vain. They did not even want to listen to any of my experiences with supplements or any theories pertaining to them. The doctor explicitly stated that they aren't going to prescribe any kind of medication unless it was justified by some tests even if they were effective for other patients. So I begged for some hormonal tests and at least they were willing to do some that they thought could be informative. "Unfortunately" I was not expecting a blood test right away and I was feeling quite alright as I had the last O about two weeks before. I still had some symptoms like photophobia at the time, but it wasn't the most representative state for acute POIS. As a reference I was on Chaga supplementation and even took some in the morning when this happened if it matters anything.

So here are the results:
sTSH:                        2.300 mU/L (0.300-4.200)
Total calcium:            2.47 mmol/L (2.10-2.60)
Phosphate:                0.86 mmol/L (0.8-1.45)
Glucose:                    5.5 mmol/L (3.6-6.0)
IgF1:                        138.8 ug/L (107.8-246.7)
17 beta-Estradiol:  45.80 ng/L (7.6-42.6)
FSH:                         3.91 IU/L (1.5-12.4)
LH:                           4.88 IU/L (1.7-8.6)
PRL:                         6.14 ug/L (4.1-21.4)
Testosterone:            22.160 nmol/L (9.90-27.80)
SHBG:                      48.29 nmol/L (11.4-52.3)
DHEAS:                    7.150 umol/L (2.400-11.500)

The doctor's advice sent with the letter says that the results are completely fine and no intervention is required. Well I can't say I was too surprised as I somewhat expected mostly normal results anyway. At least it is interesting that I had a slightly elevated E2 level which may explain why I had success with several aromatase inhibitors and could be indicative of a suspected estrogen dominance. Of course I have been non-stop trying new supplements and it can't be excluded that a higher E2 is the result of some of the stuff I took earlier, although it is also true that I was testing DHEA about 2 weeks before and it doesn't appear in the test. Testosterone is actually somewhat above average, but still testosterone boosters help me. It may be nothing, but still worth mentioning that phosphate is closer to the lower limit, while SHBG to the upper reference limit. At least these values are representative for my baseline CFS state, but in the future I plan to make a more representative test in acute POIS with some other hormones included like DHT, progesterone and cortisol even if this time I have to pay for it as doctors are not likely to help me any more.
Did you mention POIS specifically to the doctor or show the research papers? What did he think of it

At the Endocrinology it was a female doctor not like it matters much. Yeah, it was the first thing I mentioned, but as I remember she did not reflect on it. Actually it could have been partly my fault as well as I quickly tried to swerve the direction of the matter by kind of lying that it must be a hormonal issue. Patients only have a few minutes to discuss their problems and it would have been impossible to sum up POIS in any coherent way in such a short amount of time. I was also rather afraid that they would block any of my inquiry as it happened at the Rare Disease department where the male professor figuring out that POIS was an andrological disease would refuse to hear anything I had to say or to discuss the issue at any length. At the Andrology I had to wait in line with a lot of mostly old patients some of who could hardly stand and probably many of them had prostate cancer, so my problems felt rather insignificant compared to them. The doctor was also exhausted and it was clear that this issue is beyond the capacity they can handle. Actually I have just been to my GP last week to show her the letter after several months, but as expected she said it looks fine and there is nothing to do about it. I did not even argue as I rather wanted to report on my current findings. I also showed her the list of supplements that I had used with great success and a short list of drugs that I would really like to test based on this. I know that she is not allowed to prescribe them so I did not force the issue, but rather told her my current theory about senescence and how I will soon attempt to cure my disease. She was at least supportive and told me she is glad that I do so much to try to resolve my issues.
Currently there are at least two other choices I could pursue. I could finally go and see the POIS doctor at the capital, but I am just so damn reluctant about it as it is outside my comfort zone. Or I could go back to the local Psychiatry after several years of hiatus and see if they are willing to prescribe me at least some of the drugs that interest me like lorazepam. At least I could finally tell them that I am not a schizophrenic. Unfortunately as my previous doctor no longer practices I would have to first explain them how I was a schizophrenic before which just feels so stupid.
The cause is probably the senescence of sexual organs and resultant inducible SASP, which also acts as a kind of non-diabetic metabolic syndrome.

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« Reply #716 on: April 14, 2023, 07:23:57 AM »
FYI, I also took a semen analysis (Spermiogramm in German) for unrelated issues..
I did not fetch the actual result paper, but the doctor said it looks "very good".
(I'm currently taking beef liver capsules and a male fertility supplement that contains A, C, E, D, B vitamins, zinc, selenium, copper and lycopene..sometimes I take fenugreek or Maca or tribulus)

(My pet theory is that everything that helps for "muscle building", "testosterone", "male sexual stamina", "male fertility" also helps POISers)


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« Reply #717 on: April 14, 2023, 02:23:16 PM »

…(My pet theory is that everything that helps for "muscle building", "testosterone", "male sexual stamina", "male fertility" also helps POISers).


Berlin, I agree.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #718 on: July 16, 2023, 12:21:11 PM »
I have some very interesting results to share.

I did a CBC after 11 days of abstinence. Right after the test was done, in the evening, I released twice. In the morning, I went to do another CBC. (Ordered both tests privately).

For many years I have had low neutrophils.

In the first CBC, my neutrophil count was 3.6. In the second CBC, taken the morning after 2 releases, my neutrophils were 2.1. This change literally happened in under 24 hours. I am currently not sick at all. This sudden and significant change in neutrophils are most likely caused by POIS.

Going to bring this experiment & result up with my functional med doc next time I see him.

Here are the results:

22/12/2022 2:50pm
https://gyazo.com/636415511d8fb29b7dac4104a63b3f48
Neutrophils 3.6

23/12/2022 8am
https://gyazo.com/abda0a1a284d88c8917f2d7d2fcc00ab
Neutrophils 2.1

I also have many blood tests dating back to 2020 with consistently low neutrophils, always around 1.8. I believe that my POIS solution has reduced the time my body is in the POIS state, and therefore gives my body a greater chance to get neutrophil ranges back to normal (hence 3.6 result after 11 days of abstience).

Also, the display of results between both days are different because I went to different pathologists (one I normally go to was closed).

Type IVd hypersensitvity is categorized as CD3+CD4+ and CD3+CD8+ T-cells which attract neutrophils mainly via GM-CSF and IL-8. The attraction works by gradients of these chemokines leading to sterile neutrophilic inflammation. Do neutrophil levels decrease due to extravasation? I've asked this to ChatGPT:
 
Question: What if neutrophils infiltrate tissue, is it possible it can lower neutrophils levels in blood?

Answer:

Yes, it is possible for neutrophil levels in the blood to decrease when they infiltrate tissues. Neutrophils are a type of white blood cell that plays a crucial role in the innate immune response. When an inflammatory process occurs, such as infection or tissue injury, neutrophils are recruited from the blood vessels to the site of inflammation or injury.

During inflammation, several factors guide neutrophils to migrate out of the blood vessels and into the affected tissues. This process is called extravasation. Once in the tissues, neutrophils can carry out their functions, including phagocytosis of pathogens and release of antimicrobial substances.

As neutrophils leave the bloodstream and migrate into tissues, their levels in the blood can decrease. This is because they are actively being recruited to the site of inflammation and are no longer circulating in the bloodstream. The movement of neutrophils from the blood vessels to the tissues is a tightly regulated process involving adhesion molecules, chemokines, and other signaling molecules.

It's worth noting that the decrease in neutrophil levels in the blood due to tissue infiltration is usually temporary. The bone marrow continuously produces new neutrophils to replenish the circulating pool. Once the inflammatory response subsides, the balance between neutrophil recruitment to tissues and their release from the bone marrow is restored, leading to a return to normal neutrophil levels in the blood.

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« Reply #719 on: August 31, 2023, 04:57:15 PM »
August 23 2023: POST-ORGASMIC ILLNESS SYNDROME SUCCESSFULLY TREATED WITH OMALIZUMAB (T J)

Use a youtube downloader to download and watch the video.

NSAIDs, high dose antihistamine therapy and SSRIs were considered ineffective.
Treatment: 3 months of therapy with 300 mg Omalizumab every 4 weeks. Patient had improvement of symptoms 3 days after start of therapy. I will add this to the pois paper treatment thread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omalizumab#Mechanism_of_action

Member  poisioq - elevated prolactin(elevated prolactin could be the couse of
hypogonadism in poisers),
Hi ige , igf1....-(indicate posible parasitic infection, alergic reactions....
Intresting, member reporting that in fasting periods he get rid of pois...
That olso lead me to xoliar indicated to alergic asthma and mcas patients...

UPDATE 5#

Since my last update I had 2 blood test. In both of them prolactin resulted into the limits.
But for my last blood test my doctor requested also 2 unusal things: IGF-1 and IgE, that both came up above their normal ranges:

IgE   562,00 UI/mL   (<120,00)
IGF-1   279,80 ng/mL   (96,40 - 227,80)

Update #2

After 2 months on Cabergoline I had another blood test. Now prolactine is in the range: 13 ng/mL [3.5 - 19.4].
In my last 2 analysis it was 55.9  and 41.5 ng/mL.

My observation from 2019:
High ige , igf1....-(indicate posible parasitic infection, alergic reactions....
Intresting, member reporting that in fasting periods he get rid of pois...
That olso lead me to xoliar indicated to alergic asthma and mcas patients...


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