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nanna1

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Re: Ideas on Herpes Induced POIS
« Reply #150 on: September 21, 2019, 01:40:50 PM »
  IDO functions as an infection sensor. During a viral or bacterial infection, IDO expression changes rapidly to either activate or suppress the innate immune system.
  Serotonin release increases the activity of the innate immune system (NK cells, neutrophils, macrophages, il-2, il-12, il-17).
IDO-kynurenine-aryl hydrocarbon receptor induction suppresses autoimmunity and the innate immune system using Tregs and il-10, etc...

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New Insights into IDO Biology in Bacterial and Viral Infections (2014)
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« Reply #151 on: September 21, 2019, 02:22:48 PM »
Yea I just posted something about Diclofenac and the IDO pathway here, just what this paper described: https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3014.msg30997#msg30997
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« Reply #152 on: September 21, 2019, 10:39:05 PM »
According to a french doctor, all Sibo/dysbiosis start in the mouth.
Mouth MUST be clean to have a clean digest system...
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« Reply #153 on: October 23, 2019, 10:25:50 AM »
St. John's Wort can work as an antiviral:

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Antiviral activity has been reported for influenza, herpes simplex types 1 and 2 (HSV-1, HSV-2), Sindbis virus, poliovirus, retrovirus infection in vitro and in vivo, murine cytomegalovirus, and hepatitis C.Bombardelli 1995, Jacobson 2001, M?ller 2004, Newall 1996, Upton 1997 Hypericin and pseudohypericin exert unique effective antiviral actions, possibly because of nonspecific associations with cellular and viral membranes. Hypericin and pseudohypericin inhibit a variety of encapsulated viruses, including HIV.Upton 1997

https://www.drugs.com/npp/st-john-s-wort.html#Bombardelli.1995

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Re: Ideas on Herpes Induced POIS
« Reply #154 on: October 23, 2019, 06:49:45 PM »

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Re: Ideas on Herpes Induced POIS
« Reply #155 on: November 03, 2019, 10:36:26 PM »
Olive Leaf Extract fight Herpes Type 1.
Interesting article drop247. But what I found most interesting is that the anti-viral medication Acyclovir was safer than olive leaf extract.
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Re: Ideas on Herpes Induced POIS
« Reply #156 on: November 03, 2019, 10:44:31 PM »
"The reactivation of HCMV can also be achieved through stress catecholamines, epinephrine, and norepinephrine, increasing concentrations of cyclic AMP, thus leading to IE enhancer/promoter stimulation (207). Similarly, proinflammatory prostaglandins stimulated in the course of various inflammatory processes also promote viral reactivation through the cyclic AMP pathway (131)." -Immunobiology of Human Cytomegalovirus: from Bench to Bedside (2009)
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« Reply #157 on: December 29, 2019, 09:53:10 AM »
Hi all. I finished my niacin and decided to buy excedrin. I took it 2 hours before release. It have never been better!!! I think it is the best treatment for me(but niacin works good too,may be 80%).

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« Reply #158 on: December 29, 2019, 10:30:42 AM »
Hmmm weird niacin (as in flushing) and ASA exhibit opposite effects regarding PGD2 and metabolites. Must be some other mechanism, perhaps the secondary role of serotonin release?

Niacin-induced ''Flush'' Involves Release of Prostaglandin D2 from Mast Cells and Serotonin from Platelets: Evidence from Human Cells in Vitro and an Animal Model

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niacin#Facial_flushing

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« Reply #159 on: December 29, 2019, 10:54:50 AM »
I want to add that i did not combine niacin and excedrine.

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Re: Ideas on Herpes Induced POIS
« Reply #160 on: January 03, 2020, 02:41:43 PM »
Hi all. I finished my niacin and decided to buy excedrin. I took it 2 hours before release. It have never been better!!! I think it is the best treatment for me(but niacin works good too,may be 80%).
Congratulation Rinat on your recent trial of excedrin. And thanks for sharing the timing you used before your release. That was very smart! :)
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Re: Ideas on Herpes Induced POIS
« Reply #161 on: March 03, 2020, 11:16:41 AM »
Natural killer (NK) cells are your friend against viral infection.
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« Reply #162 on: March 03, 2020, 03:26:24 PM »
nanna1, I love your graphics!
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« Reply #163 on: March 04, 2020, 01:48:46 PM »
Natural killer (NK) cells are your friend against viral infection.
How to trigger them to produce more?
no sugar diet helps me a tiny bit, also makes my mind much calmer in general. Sugar is definitely something my body does not handle well. Also I noticed that other inflammations like a hangover are better since I quit sugar. I avoid sweet fruits as well.

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Re: Ideas on Herpes Induced POIS
« Reply #164 on: March 04, 2020, 11:29:04 PM »
Natural killer (NK) cells are your friend against viral infection...
How to trigger them to produce more?
Hi Spartak,
  I discussed some ways to increase NK cell activity here: Immune Competence Therapy. ImmunoComplex by Quality of Life actually has some good research showing immune supporting properties.
II. immune activation stack (cycle - 6 days on, 4 days off)
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ImmunoComplex stack (15 - 20 min before each meal / three times daily, requires food)
  • active hexose correlated compounds (AHCC)
  • zinc methionine
  • copper oxide
  • vitamin C
  • vitamin D3
  • Andrographis
beta-glucan (1g)
copper gluconate (2mg, empty stomach)
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