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how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« on: October 21, 2017, 03:57:45 AM »
the other day i took one 20 mins be4 o didnt work at all..
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Re: how long should i take niacin be4 orgasm??
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2017, 08:25:23 AM »
Hi Deannx,

I am not using niacin myself, but here are links to 2 posts on how to use niacin for POIS:
 
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1108.msg15966#msg15966

http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=319.msg4160#msg4160

I think this will help you.

If you have any more specific question, post it and a member using niacin will answer you eventually.

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Re: how long should i take niacin be4 orgasm??
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2017, 11:19:50 AM »
Hi Deannx,

I am not using niacin myself, but here are links to 2 posts on how to use niacin for POIS:
 
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1108.msg15966#msg15966

http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=319.msg4160#msg4160

I think this will help you.

If you have any more specific question, post it and a member using niacin will answer you eventually.

sorry i was meant to type antihistamine such as Claritin, but thanks for the info i am looking into niacin as well

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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2017, 04:31:53 PM »
For use of antihistamine in POIS, see at http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2338.msg19448#msg19448 , and roll down to Antihistamine Type in the POIS Type Chart. 

You will see there descriptions of what has been efficient for other members.
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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2017, 03:09:07 PM »
Try Zyrtec instead of Claritin; it's more powerful.  That's what the urologist told me anyway.  Also, take two 25mg Benadryl immediately After you orgasm.  Take Zyrtec every day too.  It knocks out the fatigue, brain fog and the benadryl should knock out the rest.  It's the only thing that's worked for me.

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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2017, 11:10:16 AM »
happy2, I’ve been happy taking Benadryl as a sleep aid...till my neurologist advised me to stop because Benadryl has side effects involving memory :(
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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 03:47:32 PM »
What kind of memory you talking about?  I wonder how it affects ya.  I've been taking benadryl for years and still managed to pull a 4.0 through my undergrad program.   Also studying through grad school and I remember things just fine.  I don't take it every day that would be problematic, but I do take it two days out of the week.
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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2017, 04:51:19 PM »
What kind of memory you talking about?  I wonder how it affects ya.  I've been taking benadryl for years and still managed to pull a 4.0 through my undergrad program.   Also studying through grad school and I remember things just fine.  I don't take it every day that would be problematic, but I do take it two days out of the week.
The antihistamine protocol works for me but after a week on zyrtec or claritin i start to get memory problems where i will be  stuck on trying to remember a word while i am talking.

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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2017, 09:23:02 PM »
I've tried Zyrtec 10mg before and it makes me way too tired for 24+ hours.  Perhaps a lower dosage would have been better.
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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2017, 03:14:23 PM »
I guess to each his own then, :) But I can't put a price tag on how important sex is to the human psyche and body though.
Much less relationships.  And with women!  You don't want to be caught suppressing all those thoughts.  It's not good for you.  It's something we have all had to deal with with POIS.  Before my treatments it was like I shut that part of myself off completely.  Totally closed off from my relationships with women.  It's not natural as we all know.  It's actually a version of hell on earth.  I remember waking up in the middle of the night 28 out of 30 nights in one month and going to the point of squeezing ice cubes so I wouldn't masturbate and face the consequences of the next four days of torture.  Jesus god thank you for getting me past that.  I'll continue taking the antihistamines.  I see my psych doc on Monday and I'll ask her about the consequences there might be of taking this.  I'll post back after that.
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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2017, 03:46:27 PM »
Yes it is definitely important and should be a sense of relief and not torture.  I can still O without symptoms thanks to my diet and I thank God that I have found something.  I believe there is literally something for all sufferers, and everybody has to go their own route.  Glad you found something happy, however, it is possible that the treatment is just masking the root cause of your symptoms.  Again, I wouldn't suggest not taking antihistamines anymore, but it is possible that maybe you should go deeper into the issue and see if you could find a healthier solution.  Though I have a biased opinion now because I manage everything with diet.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2017, 03:03:21 AM by Going less Crazy »
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supps: microdose zyrtec if needed for food sens. ibuprofen for infl. as needed. Melatonin as needed. Big Pinch Black cumin  seeds once daily

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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2017, 01:02:43 PM »
   I tried Allegra which is suppose to cause less memory problems. I have being using it for about a week  without noticing the memory problem i did with zyrtec and claritin but allegra is making me sleepy. I have been averaging about 12 hrs a day of sleep. I cant afford to sleep that long right now i will have to come back to it later at half the recommended daily dosage.
How is it non-drowsy but making me sleep so much.

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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2017, 03:50:22 PM »
Yes it is definitely important and should be a sense of relief and not torture.  I can still O without symptoms thanks to my diet and I thank God that I have found something.  I believe there is literally something for all sufferers, and everybody has to go their own route.  Glad you found something happy, however, it is possible that the treatment is just masking the root cause of your symptoms.  Again, I wouldn't suggest not taking antihistamines anymore, but it is possible that maybe you should go deeper into the issue and see if you could find a healthier solution.  Though I have a biased opinion now because I manage everything with diet.

Goinglesscrazy,
I will try to find the root cause of all this madness.  I did see my psych. doc on Monday.  She said if it's working continue to take the benadryl and zyrtec.  She did say it would be better to not take it, but if it's working, that's all that counts.  She said the side-effects might be impaired coordination, blurry vision, and that was about it.  She said if you can still do things it's not a problem.  And I can.  I can still work-out, work, mow, study, etc.

Here's an interesting fact.  She told me approximately 1 year ago that when there is a reaction like this, it's usually caused by a separation in the tubes in the nut-sack, she didn't say nut-sack, but that's what she was describing.  And then when the semen shoots through the tubes, and the hair-line fracture within those tubes, it picks up allergens.  Then, when all that semen is released after orgasm, it erupts into the body and causes all kinds of allergic reactions.  She said if it wasn't an allergic reaction (that I was experiencing) the anti-histamines wouldn't work.  And they DO work! :).
« Last Edit: November 04, 2017, 03:52:15 PM by happy2 »

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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2017, 06:38:42 PM »
Yes it is definitely important and should be a sense of relief and not torture.  I can still O without symptoms thanks to my diet and I thank God that I have found something.  I believe there is literally something for all sufferers, and everybody has to go their own route.  Glad you found something happy, however, it is possible that the treatment is just masking the root cause of your symptoms.  Again, I wouldn't suggest not taking antihistamines anymore, but it is possible that maybe you should go deeper into the issue and see if you could find a healthier solution.  Though I have a biased opinion now because I manage everything with diet.

Goinglesscrazy,
I will try to find the root cause of all this madness.  I did see my psych. doc on Monday.  She said if it's working continue to take the benadryl and zyrtec.  She did say it would be better to not take it, but if it's working, that's all that counts.  She said the side-effects might be impaired coordination, blurry vision, and that was about it.  She said if you can still do things it's not a problem.  And I can.  I can still work-out, work, mow, study, etc.

Here's an interesting fact.  She told me approximately 1 year ago that when there is a reaction like this, it's usually caused by a separation in the tubes in the nut-sack, she didn't say nut-sack, but that's what she was describing.  And then when the semen shoots through the tubes, and the hair-line fracture within those tubes, it picks up allergens.  Then, when all that semen is released after orgasm, it erupts into the body and causes all kinds of allergic reactions.  She said if it wasn't an allergic reaction (that I was experiencing) the anti-histamines wouldn't work.  And they DO work! :).

happy I do believe POIS is allergy related but I seriously doubt it has anything to do with an allergy to semen, like 99%, 100% sure in my case because orgasm doesn't effect me anymore.  From reading this and your other post today... I believe the skin prick test with semen was not even being looked at anymore because most men will have a skin reaction to semen injected just under the skin...if someone can correct me if I'm wrong...  I'm thinking antihistamines work for you because they block or at least help block some inflammatory thing, but if you feel good than you feel good.  That would've been hilarious if she said nutsack btw.
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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2017, 07:52:55 PM »
Yes it is definitely important and should be a sense of relief and not torture.  I can still O without symptoms thanks to my diet and I thank God that I have found something.  I believe there is literally something for all sufferers, and everybody has to go their own route.  Glad you found something happy, however, it is possible that the treatment is just masking the root cause of your symptoms.  Again, I wouldn't suggest not taking antihistamines anymore, but it is possible that maybe you should go deeper into the issue and see if you could find a healthier solution.  Though I have a biased opinion now because I manage everything with diet.

Goinglesscrazy,
I will try to find the root cause of all this madness.  I did see my psych. doc on Monday.  She said if it's working continue to take the benadryl and zyrtec.  She did say it would be better to not take it, but if it's working, that's all that counts.  She said the side-effects might be impaired coordination, blurry vision, and that was about it.  She said if you can still do things it's not a problem.  And I can.  I can still work-out, work, mow, study, etc.

Here's an interesting fact.  She told me approximately 1 year ago that when there is a reaction like this, it's usually caused by a separation in the tubes in the nut-sack, she didn't say nut-sack, but that's what she was describing.  And then when the semen shoots through the tubes, and the hair-line fracture within those tubes, it picks up allergens.  Then, when all that semen is released after orgasm, it erupts into the body and causes all kinds of allergic reactions.  She said if it wasn't an allergic reaction (that I was experiencing) the anti-histamines wouldn't work.  And they DO work! :).

happy I do believe POIS is allergy related but I seriously doubt it has anything to do with an allergy to semen, like 99%, 100% sure in my case because orgasm doesn't effect me anymore.  From reading this and your other post today... I believe the skin prick test with semen was not even being looked at anymore because most men will have a skin reaction to semen injected just under the skin...if someone can correct me if I'm wrong...  I'm thinking antihistamines work for you because they block or at least help block some inflammatory thing, but if you feel good than you feel good.  That would've been hilarious if she said nutsack btw.

Goinglesscrazy,
Thanks, I see my GP in the next week or so.  I will ask him what he thinks about the inflammation theory after orgasm and ejaculation.  He is the one who originally told me going to a specialist wouldn't do anything for me.  He said you're doing everything you can possibly do now.  He also made an observation that when I just had pre-cum (can I say that on here) the symptoms, being brain-fog, would only last for the remainder of the day.  HOwever, when I had a full-on orgasm, the symptoms would go into full-overload for the next days for the duration of full POIS symptoms.  I believe he said that because of the allergy component?  or, it could have been because of the inflammation component that you had mentioned.  I'll ask him when I go in there.  If there is anything else I need to know I'll ask him then when I go in.

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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2017, 05:14:43 PM »
Yes it is definitely important and should be a sense of relief and not torture.  I can still O without symptoms thanks to my diet and I thank God that I have found something.  I believe there is literally something for all sufferers, and everybody has to go their own route.  Glad you found something happy, however, it is possible that the treatment is just masking the root cause of your symptoms.  Again, I wouldn't suggest not taking antihistamines anymore, but it is possible that maybe you should go deeper into the issue and see if you could find a healthier solution.  Though I have a biased opinion now because I manage everything with diet.

Goinglesscrazy,
I will try to find the root cause of all this madness.  I did see my psych. doc on Monday.  She said if it's working continue to take the benadryl and zyrtec.  She did say it would be better to not take it, but if it's working, that's all that counts.  She said the side-effects might be impaired coordination, blurry vision, and that was about it.  She said if you can still do things it's not a problem.  And I can.  I can still work-out, work, mow, study, etc.

Here's an interesting fact.  She told me approximately 1 year ago that when there is a reaction like this, it's usually caused by a separation in the tubes in the nut-sack, she didn't say nut-sack, but that's what she was describing.  And then when the semen shoots through the tubes, and the hair-line fracture within those tubes, it picks up allergens.  Then, when all that semen is released after orgasm, it erupts into the body and causes all kinds of allergic reactions.  She said if it wasn't an allergic reaction (that I was experiencing) the anti-histamines wouldn't work.  And they DO work! :).

happy I do believe POIS is allergy related but I seriously doubt it has anything to do with an allergy to semen, like 99%, 100% sure in my case because orgasm doesn't effect me anymore.  From reading this and your other post today... I believe the skin prick test with semen was not even being looked at anymore because most men will have a skin reaction to semen injected just under the skin...if someone can correct me if I'm wrong...  I'm thinking antihistamines work for you because they block or at least help block some inflammatory thing, but if you feel good than you feel good.  That would've been hilarious if she said nutsack btw.

GoinglessCrazy,
You said you’re almost 99 to 100% sure the Benadryl I’m taking works to stop inflammation and not histamine reaction.  Well I went to my doctor and he said Benadryl does not work to stop inflammation hardly at all.  But, however, it is known to be extremely effective at stopping histamine reaction.  So it makes sense that the anti-histamines work to stop the histamine reactions.  My doctor is a good one and so is my urologist and psych doc.  They all gave extremely good information about this.  I think more people with this disorder should seek out doctors more.  He can't tell me exactly why I'm having the reaction I am to the orgasms, but he said if the medicine works keep taking it.  So I will. :)  Gladly and happily.  :)
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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2017, 05:26:43 PM »
happy2, I’ve been happy taking Benadryl as a sleep aid...till my neurologist advised me to stop because Benadryl has side effects involving memory :(

Demo,
My GP said Benadryl as a sleep aid will cause memory problems if used every single night.  However, the way I'm using it, every 3rd, 4th, or 5th night, it will not have any negative side-effects on my my memory.  I've been using about 150-200 mg of Benadryl every 3rd, 4th, or 5th night for the last 2 years.  He said my blood work looked really good.  He said my kidneys, blood sugar, thyroid, and liver looked very good.  He said the most he has seen someone take of Benadryl is 300 mg a day.  So when I stack up 3, 4 orgasms in one night (that's 150-200mg of Benadryl- 2 pills after each orgasm) every 4th or 5th night, it won't have any negative effect on my mind or body.
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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2017, 09:05:39 AM »
Yes it is definitely important and should be a sense of relief and not torture.  I can still O without symptoms thanks to my diet and I thank God that I have found something.  I believe there is literally something for all sufferers, and everybody has to go their own route.  Glad you found something happy, however, it is possible that the treatment is just masking the root cause of your symptoms.  Again, I wouldn't suggest not taking antihistamines anymore, but it is possible that maybe you should go deeper into the issue and see if you could find a healthier solution.  Though I have a biased opinion now because I manage everything with diet.

Goinglesscrazy,
I will try to find the root cause of all this madness.  I did see my psych. doc on Monday.  She said if it's working continue to take the benadryl and zyrtec.  She did say it would be better to not take it, but if it's working, that's all that counts.  She said the side-effects might be impaired coordination, blurry vision, and that was about it.  She said if you can still do things it's not a problem.  And I can.  I can still work-out, work, mow, study, etc.

Here's an interesting fact.  She told me approximately 1 year ago that when there is a reaction like this, it's usually caused by a separation in the tubes in the nut-sack, she didn't say nut-sack, but that's what she was describing.  And then when the semen shoots through the tubes, and the hair-line fracture within those tubes, it picks up allergens.  Then, when all that semen is released after orgasm, it erupts into the body and causes all kinds of allergic reactions.  She said if it wasn't an allergic reaction (that I was experiencing) the anti-histamines wouldn't work.  And they DO work! :).

happy I do believe POIS is allergy related but I seriously doubt it has anything to do with an allergy to semen, like 99%, 100% sure in my case because orgasm doesn't effect me anymore.  From reading this and your other post today... I believe the skin prick test with semen was not even being looked at anymore because most men will have a skin reaction to semen injected just under the skin...if someone can correct me if I'm wrong...  I'm thinking antihistamines work for you because they block or at least help block some inflammatory thing, but if you feel good than you feel good.  That would've been hilarious if she said nutsack btw.

GoinglessCrazy,
You said you’re almost 99 to 100% sure the Benadryl I’m taking works to stop inflammation and not histamine reaction.  Well I went to my doctor and he said Benadryl does not work to stop inflammation hardly at all.  But, however, it is known to be extremely effective at stopping histamine reaction.  So it makes sense that the anti-histamines work to stop the histamine reactions.  My doctor is a good one and so is my urologist and psych doc.  They all gave extremely good information about this.  I think more people with this disorder should seek out doctors more.  He can't tell me exactly why I'm having the reaction I am to the orgasms, but he said if the medicine works keep taking it.  So I will. :)  Gladly and happily.  :)

I slowly and carefully brought up POIS to my new doctor over the past 3 visits to pique his investigative interest.  He is a voracious researcher and has invented a new successful treatment for vagus nerve dysfunction. At first POIS struck him as psychosomatic, but after looking into it he theorized a histamine dump like your doc, and suggested Benadryl which I need to try but I'm afraid to for some reason. The way he put it though, was that many people have high histamine levels, some even to the point of unwitting addiction. It's caused by high histamine foods, leftover foods, relationship drama, tension, and other things but most of all - sex and arousal. Histamine is what triggers orgasms. A cascade of primary and secondary effects can be set off. The symptoms of histadelia are frighteningly similar to POIS in some respects. Or maybe more accurately I should say an overdose: "Headaches/migraines,Difficulty falling asleep, easily arousal,Hypertension,Vertigo or dizziness,Arrhythmia, or accelerated heart rate,Difficulty regulating body temperature,Anxiety,Nausea, vomiting,Abdominal cramps,Flushing,Nasal congestion, sneezing, difficulty breathing,Abnormal menstrual cycle,Hives,Fatigue,Tissue swelling".
The message was to try getting the overall histamine down and use antihistamines for acute spikes.

My favorite poster here, trusttheprocess, enlightened me to the fact that histamine opens up the blood brain barrier which itself opens you up to a host of potential new problems. My doctor had inadvertently diagnosed my bbb as being massively thinned out/open in previous visits based on symptoms I described (without naming POIS or relating them to sex), so I find this entire angle fascinating.
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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2017, 09:56:46 AM »
Hi uhtred,

For sure, there is a type of POIS related to histamine, because there are some members that have excellent results with antihistamines ( Happy2, Certainlypois2, Nico, Wolf , ...).   Some others have no results with antihistamines, but POIS does not seem to have identical metabolic causes for everyone, even if trigger, symptoms and pattern are very similar.

You have an excellent approach with your new doctor :)   Keep us updated about what the results will be.  He may become a "POIS doctor" that could be placed on the list, who knows.

Have you ever tried one of the "antihistamine protocol" described by other members?  ( see the relevant part in http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2338.msg19448#msg19448 )

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Re: how long should i take Claritin/Benadryl be4 orgasm??
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2017, 12:05:19 PM »
Hi uhtred,

For sure, there is a type of POIS related to histamine, because there are some members that have excellent results with antihistamines ( Happy2, Certainlypois2, Nico, Wolf , ...).   Some others have no results with antihistamines, but POIS does not seem to have identical metabolic causes for everyone, even if trigger, symptoms and pattern are very similar.

You have an excellent approach with your new doctor :)   Keep us updated about what the results will be.  He may become a "POIS doctor" that could be placed on the list, who knows.

Have you ever tried one of the "antihistamine protocol" described by other members?  ( see the relevant part in http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2338.msg19448#msg19448 )

Thanks. I had not seen that page before. What scares me about trying anything is how treatment for 1 type can make another type worse. I developed moderately severe autonomic dysfunction either as a result of POIS or inflammatory lifestyle (including ??? years of undiagnosed UARS). Luckily it has been reversed to a great degree with abstinence and CPAP, but I wish I could know which for sure is doing the heavy lifting. I recall a post here about a person curing their POIS after addressing their UARS, fwiw. My new doctor has me on the kurtosis protocol pretty much - I think all of us can follow that one at the very least. Addressing methylation will help anybody. Where can I read more about Dirkstar, hypersexuality and lengthy periods of arousal? This was a behavior I suspected in my own case and stopped (also had some PD type symptoms at my worst), but again with so many changes I can't pinpoint anything.
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