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demografx

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2017, 07:44:16 AM »

But my physician doesn't believe in my POIS!


I understand, and that is true for most of us!

This might help your issue with your physician:
from http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1.msg21251#new

--"In addition to serving our own informational interests, the resources listed above can be useful for you to show our credibility to the medical world - which usually shows little understanding and is -- more often than not -- skeptical of our condition: POIS has scientific underpinnings and POIS is not "just another psychological problem" related to sex - to be treated by the psychiatric/psychotherapeutic community. All of this information can greatly help you to fight the immediate reaction of some doctors: so just tell them, "IT'S NOT 'ALL IN YOUR HEAD'! "

Good article for those of you whose physicians tell you, "POIS is all in your head," :
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/10/04/its-all-in-your-head-living-with-chronic-illness/

--Show some of this [please see the Welcome Page resources link listed at the beginning of this post] to your doctor - with pride. Chances are, you know far more about POIS than s/he does. Don't be intimidated by fancy diplomas. It's almost impossible for any one doctor to know much about POIS before you walk into his/her office. Unfortunately, it's up to you to educate them. And if you happen to find yourself with a disagreeable "student"-doctor (you're the teacher), find another doctor. Quickly! "


« Last Edit: July 15, 2017, 07:59:21 AM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of weekly (52 weeks/year) testosterone self-injections.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2017, 08:50:37 AM »
Anyone has a treatment to suggest me to begin with? As far as I understand it goes a bit random in finding the right one.

Hi Unvers,

First, like Demo has underlined, we cannot suggest specific treatment.  However, I suggest you to read carefully my POIS Type Chart at http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2338.msg19448#msg19448 .    Try to discern which type seems to be similar to yours, and you can personally choose to experiment, in a safe way, with what has been proven helpful for others with the same type of symptoms.   I don't think you will find, for now, anything more useful in helping you choosing what relief method you should try, in a single post.



Regarding your doctor having a very negative reaction and not believing in POIS, take the time to read the post I have created especially to help with this situation:

http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2392.msg20182#msg20182

This will help you get the most from your appointments with a physician.






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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2017, 03:12:55 AM »
Thanks so much for the replies.



Speaking about abstinente tonight I had almost a nocturnal emission, I changed position in the bed just in time, now I feel like in POIS but with symptoms less strong, see how long it will take to recover.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2017, 09:47:22 AM »
Same here, almost had a NE twice this morning (went back to sleep after the first time and woke up few hours again after another sex dream). I'm glad I was able to stop them which I usually can't but it worries me that this happened only 2 days after the last orgasm. I wish my libido/sex drive wouldn't be so high. I think having more orgasms doesnt lower the frequency of NE for me so I choose abstinence for now.

Are your NEs also triggered by dreams and how often do you (almost) have them?

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2017, 05:47:19 AM »
Same here, almost had a NE twice this morning (went back to sleep after the first time and woke up few hours again after another sex dream). I'm glad I was able to stop them which I usually can't but it worries me that this happened only 2 days after the last orgasm. I wish my libido/sex drive wouldn't be so high. I think having more orgasms doesnt lower the frequency of NE for me so I choose abstinence for now.

Are your NEs also triggered by dreams and how often do you (almost) have them?

In all these years I managed to stop them before ejaculation, I don't have them often and I noted that the most difficult days are shortly after orgasm.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2017, 06:36:52 AM »
I seem to have Nocturnal Emissions if I sleep with a full stomach or eat too late and sleep immediately after. Don't know why that happens, anyone with similar experience?
33 years old, POIS for around 12 years with increasing severity.
Major symptoms - Severe fatigue, back pain, unrefreshed even after 9+ hours sleep, pain behind eyes, very dry face, bald head with inflamed scalp, digestion issues and constipation. Very low testosterone and high glucose in blood tests

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2017, 01:10:32 PM »



My NE's were often worse symptomatically than other forms.

Thankfully, my NE's stopped 100% when I reached a certain "senior age".

One of the TRUE benefits of aging!! ;D


« Last Edit: July 19, 2017, 09:39:16 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of weekly (52 weeks/year) testosterone self-injections.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2017, 02:10:24 AM »
Guys I have a problem with prostatitis and the urologyst told me to masturbate often to empty the gland, obviously this is a foul advice for me considering that I have POIS, now I am costantly in pain in the prostate but I can't destroy me for this problem, I think I will have an orgasm in the week end to have sufficient time for recovery.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2017, 02:12:19 AM »



My NE's were often worse symptomatically than other forms.

Thankfully, my NE's stopped 100% when I reached a certain "senior age".

One of the TRUE benefits of aging!! ;D

For we POIS sufferers aging will help under this point of view.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2017, 05:51:45 PM »
Glad to hear, Unvers!
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of weekly (52 weeks/year) testosterone self-injections.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2017, 09:13:11 PM »
Regarding your doctor having a very negative reaction and not believing in POIS, take the time to read the post I have created especially to help with this situation:

http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2392.msg20182#msg20182

This will help you get the most from your appointments with a physician.
Quantum, just this morning I would've explained POIS much better to my new cardiologist if I had re-read your post above! Even after 10 years on this forum, but because I was unprepared -- I forgot everything, was embarrassed, and simply spelled out/blurted out the words that comprise the acronym, POIS :)


« Last Edit: July 21, 2017, 09:25:10 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of weekly (52 weeks/year) testosterone self-injections.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2017, 08:10:19 AM »
I had two orgasms today, for now I am managing POIS with nicotine and caffeine.

Limiting the orgasms to one day per week and using stimulants is my strategy for now, the antidepressant also lower libido and enanche mood, the first thing is a curse for normal people but with poisers I think is a blessing.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2017, 10:53:08 PM »
Dear joelawerence I have the exact same problem  :-\ :-\ :-\. I get home too late everyday. If I eat too late at night and go to sleep with full stomach, sleeping on my back leads to N.E.
Have you managed to solve this? please can you help me?.

Thank you


I seem to have Nocturnal Emissions if I sleep with a full stomach or eat too late and sleep immediately after. Don't know why that happens, anyone with similar experience?

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2017, 07:43:45 AM »
I am also haunted by NE in these days, very frustrating, make my abstinence almost useless but the symptoms are less strong than normal orgasm.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2017, 01:33:50 PM »
I am also haunted by NE in these days, very frustrating, make my abstinence almost useless but the symptoms are less strong than normal orgasm.

Yeah I have the same issue, N.E. make my abstinence worthless but their effects are weaker than O. Has anybody managed to avoid N.E. at all? I read here https://www.seedoc.co/why-nightfall-happen-when-i-eat-much-and-when-i-recovered-it-happen-every-week-it-makes-me-dull-any-treatment/ that going to sleep with a full stomach makes them more frequent 

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2017, 08:43:29 AM »

Yeah I have the same issue, N.E. make my abstinence worthless but their effects are weaker than O. Has anybody managed to avoid N.E. at all? I read here https://www.seedoc.co/why-nightfall-happen-when-i-eat-much-and-when-i-recovered-it-happen-every-week-it-makes-me-dull-any-treatment/ that going to sleep with a full stomach makes them more frequent

Hi Rudolph, and welcome to the forum!

Thanks for the link, this article may bring useful idea with al those who try to limit NE to an absolute minimum.

I am going to re-post it in some NE threads, to give it more exposure.
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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2017, 07:04:13 AM »
This night I managed to stop an erotic dream to avoid an orgasm, the arousal gave me some minor POIS symptoms that went away in few hours, with orgasm it could have been much worse.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2017, 09:27:10 AM »
In these days I am thinking about surviving with POIS and having orgasms only a day per week, symptoms are not so light but don't last much, maybe an experimental pharmacoterapy could worsen the situation instead of helps, maybe I can take some substance well know to help with cognitive POIS.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2017, 04:03:55 PM »
Guys this night I was triggered by a soft porn image and I had to take Diazepam to calm down the libido, it's not the first time I am taking meds prescribed for anxiety to calm down libido, a strange method to avoid POIS or too much sexual frustration.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2017, 12:36:40 AM »
For those suffering from POIS going to bed with full stomach, I've proved that taking antacids reduce the frequency of N.E. because the stomach is less upset