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Re: Mast Cell Activation Syndrome
« Reply #300 on: December 01, 2020, 12:06:39 PM »
Vagal influences over mast cells. GI mast cell numbers may have changed. This could explain the links between autonomic/vagal dysfunction and IBS/IBD.

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« Reply #301 on: December 03, 2020, 05:58:12 PM »
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC96436/
Borrelia burgdorferi Spirochetes Induce Mast Cell Activation and Cytokine Release
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« Reply #302 on: December 03, 2020, 06:02:20 PM »
The results of the present study support the biological plausibility of how mercury could contribute to ASD pathogenesis by inducing VEGF and IL-6 release from mast cells, and as a result disrupt the BBB and thus permit brain inflammation. Further studies should investigate the effect of mercury and thimerosal alone or together with allergic and non-immune triggers.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2850891/
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« Reply #303 on: December 03, 2020, 06:24:23 PM »
Muon, did any of the poisers monitor the condition with PTH hormone.
PTH is a major trigger for MCAS.
PTH extracts calcium from the bones, and it usually does when
low levels of vitamin D in the body.
The main role of vitamin D is to work on the absorption of calcium
from the gut into the blood.
I think that for those poisers who were helped by vitamin D, it is a matter of reducing the triggering of MCAS and
modulation of immunity.
So low vitamine D induce elevation of MC trought PTH.

PTH controls the level of calcium in the blood. Calcium is a mineral that keeps your bones and teeth healthy and strong. It's also essential for the proper functioning of your nerves, muscles, and heart. If calcium blood levels are too low, your parathyroid glands will release PTH into the blood.Jul 31, 2020
https://medlineplus.gov/lab-tests/parathyroid-hormone-pth-test/

Parathyroid hormone as a stimulus to mast cell accumulation in bone
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02017533

However, levels of 25-hydroxyvitamin D3 less than 20 ng per mL (52 nmol per L) triggers a compensatory increase in parathyroid hormone (PTH) and, hence, accelerates bone resorption. This suggests that vitamin D deficiency occurs before the lower limits of traditional population-based values for PTH.Jan 1, 2005
https://www.aafp.org/afp/2005/0101/p46.html

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Re: Mast Cell Activation Syndrome
« Reply #304 on: December 04, 2020, 04:05:11 PM »
The mechanism of mast cell stabilization is not fully understood. Cumulative reports indicate that vitamin D (VitD) contributes to the homeostasis in the body. This study tests a hypothesis that VitD is required in the maintenance of the stability of mast cells.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27998003/
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« Reply #305 on: December 04, 2020, 04:16:25 PM »
Mast cell stabilization means that only a subset of certain mediators are being inhibited regarding MC stabilizers/therapy. If you get symptoms from these specific mediators then stabilization by MC stabilizer X will help but if you get sick due to other mediators that aren't going to be suppressed by MC stabilizer X then nothing will happen and one concludes that it isn't MCAD. You can take a look at all the mast cell receptors and compare it to the POIS paper treatment summary thread.

Muon, did any of the poisers monitor the condition with PTH hormone.

Not that I'm aware of, no. But this is interesting stuff HOD. Since I suspect intracellular calcium going down in POIS. Does that mean that PTH changes due to POIS trigger? Calcium signaling? Impaired vit D signaling? My mother used Bisphosphonate for her osteoporosis for 5 years. Did not affect bone density, so another mechanism is at play here. She is now using a RANKL inhibitor.
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Re: Mast Cell Activation Syndrome
« Reply #307 on: December 05, 2020, 05:58:32 PM »
Emerging Roles of Mast Cells in the Regulation of Lymphatic Immuno-Physiology
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.01234/full

Mast cells contribute to homeostasis in the immune system. They serve as a first line of defense against antigens entering the body due to their location in the skin and mucosa (21). Mast cells are especially important in the homeostasis of the commensal bacteria of the gut (22).Jan 6, 2016

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2015.00620/full

Mast cels gental urinary and gut connection  :)


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Re: Mast Cell Activation Syndrome
« Reply #308 on: December 07, 2020, 11:10:41 AM »
Relevant info regarding supplements containing Luteolin, will dump this in the MCAD thread:

Luteolin supplements: All that glitters is not gold

"Note: Any product of 60 capsules claiming 100 mg luteolin/capsule and priced <$35 is unlikely to contain high purity luteolin, which is very expensive."
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« Reply #309 on: December 07, 2020, 12:33:01 PM »
Theoharides?

Is he actualy respon to your email ever?
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« Reply #310 on: December 07, 2020, 12:37:36 PM »
Theoharides?

Is he actualy respon to your email ever?
Yes

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Re: Mast Cell Activation Syndrome
« Reply #311 on: December 07, 2020, 12:58:27 PM »
His toughts about pois?
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« Reply #312 on: December 07, 2020, 01:24:26 PM »
His toughts about pois?

He insinuated by sending me papers that potentially mast cells in the male reproductive system may be involved and/or mast cells elsewhere that could be activated due to neuroendocrine triggers. He has seen multiple MCAS patients in his practice with POIS symptoms.

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« Reply #313 on: December 07, 2020, 01:41:37 PM »
This could be, my pois cascade start exectly like he descrribes...
histamine iching, drop of blod pressure,  inflamed ayes, then pain prostagladins then leukotrines shortenes of breath bumping heart etc etc...

Now i know why i suspected long time ago that i hawe testicular cancer,
nobody bolive me in thouse times... swolen lymph node in scortum and severe pois symptomes, it is like you dying... doctors think that i imagine all this as a
teeneger :)
 
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Re: Mast Cell Activation Syndrome
« Reply #314 on: December 07, 2020, 01:44:29 PM »
Maybe you should find another doctor and ask if you could try some stuff from this thread: https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3551.0

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Re: Mast Cell Activation Syndrome
« Reply #315 on: December 07, 2020, 02:51:26 PM »
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233983858

Inhibitory effects of benzodiazepines on the adenosine A2B receptor mediated secretion of interleukin-8 in human mast cells

My only cure in thouse times :)  small those to survive anaplaxes.
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« Reply #316 on: December 07, 2020, 03:04:44 PM »
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233983858

Inhibitory effects of benzodiazepines on the adenosine A2B receptor mediated secretion of interleukin-8 in human mast cells

My only cure in thouse times :)  small those to survive anaplaxes.

Interesting, benzo's worked for my brother's POIS, he had to quit because they were too addictive. Need to ask him again how good they worked compared to other meds he tried. His IL-8 is slightly elevated. I could put benzo's on my list just to see if I get a response. The next one on my list is Neuroprotek (can reduce IL-8 and IFN-g in whole blood). That begs the question what the source of IL-8 is.  Endothelial cells are able to release IL-8 and 11-b-PG-F2a as well but the symptomatology fits mast cells much better. MCs also express peripheral benzodiazepine receptors.

Edit: He did not only stop due to the addictive effect but he built up a tolerance to it as well.
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« Reply #317 on: December 07, 2020, 03:10:47 PM »
Yes, i dont want to take them because of adiction, only when needed.
Nothing else realy work from me but coffe in pois , for pain and cfs,
but coffe hawe side effects if not dozing smart.
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Re: Mast Cell Activation Syndrome
« Reply #318 on: December 07, 2020, 03:22:45 PM »
I suspect you and I got the same root cause of POIS. Note: Mast cell mediators don't necessarily have to be dumped into circulation.

"The rank order of potency was diazepam > 4'-chlorodiazepam > flunitrazepam > clonazepam with clonazepam causing only a minor effect at a high concentration." Ref
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Re: Mast Cell Activation Syndrome
« Reply #319 on: December 08, 2020, 08:52:13 AM »
What benzodiazepines have you tried HOD?