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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2016, 11:37:21 AM »
Once again maybe you are right. And I have often talked about inflammation. All is possible.

Now, maybe I imagine something else. For example, I imagine the hot flashes are caused by hypothalamus. (because it's the center of body temp regulation, like during premenstrual symptoms for women).

If we could measure the activity of our hypothalamus activity during Pois, we might have surprises. I think dopamine/testosterone (and then sugar) fluctuations by orgasm might make the hypothalamus crazy.

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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2016, 01:41:09 PM »
Thanks for your input GLC

for me, eggs are OK. actually eggs (only boiled) seem to helpful.

Here is my diet list that may be helpful in speeding up recovery of POIS
1- Olive oil (I can confirm it helps, it reduces irritablity)
2- Tuna
3- Vegetables
4- Slightly sweet fruits like apples.
5- Boiled eggs
6- cinnamon drink

How do you incorporate the olive oil to relieve irritability? Cook with it?

I drink 2-3 tea spoons of virgin olive oil, preferably when I have an empty stomach. I dont add water to it or cook with it, I just drink the oil the way it is
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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2016, 06:51:14 PM »
I'd be careful with the olive oil.  I've started drinking some straight, about a tbsp every night for weight gain and inflammation.  But I've noticed a good increase in brain fog/red eyes while on it.  Also night sweats?  I wonder why this would be.

I was using evoo before and now just extra light.  But I'll take a break from the olive oil now and focus on my diet w/o experimenting.

*update.  Did some searches on extra virgin olive oil... Some sites claim it's really healthy and antiinflammatory, and others say it can cause inflammation?  Isn't evoo a fat and wouldn't that lead to inflammation?

This is just a warning if you find an increase in brain fog when taking it.  It happened to me.

**update again, with that being said I had a bad reaction to soy, which is one of the main things Celiac's should avoid.  I'm not sure if I had this when trying the olive oil, but just in case if you feel foggy it might be the oo.  Apparently they put soy in tuna now.  I remember it being just tuna and water in the past.  I'll put that on the list.

What's good though is my pois doesn't correlate to orgasm any more, mainly the foods I eat.  Good luck prancer and others on your diet journey :)
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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2016, 02:42:36 AM »
I "drink" liters of oliver oil (cooking and salads dressing) and I don't think it helps my Pois or very very very smally.But anyway, if it helps to avoid cancers or others disease, it's nice :)

The MAIN question is :  Is INFLAMMATION a part of Pois, or not at all ?

I think we have no medical datas to prove inflammation is present during Pois (like C-Reactive Protein marker or other). Thats why I said maybe the 'flu-like' or 'hot flashes' symptoms are Inflammation but maybe it's just an unbalance of hypothalamaus, like women during PMS.

Anyway, if inflammation is present to explain Pois i have a good arguement : during Pois, high glycemic food and especially white sugar strongly increases my Pois. That's a fact, no placebo, I'm 100% sure of this.
And we have now the scientific proof that High Glycemic Index food increase inflammation.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/99/4/813.long





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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2016, 01:56:38 PM »
As I write this, I can pretty much say with certainty that I have some "silent celiac-like" disorder.  Having just O'd three times without symptoms, my diet is in direct correlation with pois symptoms.  It's interesting how I correlated orgasm to my pois as I thought that to be the main cause, but that was merely a symptom of my celiac- like disorder.  Btw, you can have celiac without having any pains or diarrhea (like me).  All of my symptoms were extra intestinal brain inflammation of the like, sore joints, red eyes, shitty very shitty mood, etc.  All of the consequences that come from inflammation.

It'd be interesting to here from other poisers who have changed their diet.

I literally have to write down every food and brand to make sure I can eat it.  I am sensitive to a lot of stuff.  Hopefully I'll be able to reintroduce later.  For now, my diet is still a lifesaver for me and I finally feel like myself after all these years.

I feel like pois has to involve some silent inflammatory process.  And if I had to guess, that would MOST LIKELY come from diet.  Imagine how much stuff we put in our bodies over the course of a day to a week to a year.  There just has to be some other inflammatory promoting process.  For me it is my diet and I can finally do stuff as long as I stick to it, finally feel like myself.  Btw there are over 300 symptoms associated with celiac and if you search about it, many people are complaining about brain fog and a lot of weird symptoms.

And about sugar, honestly it's not supposed to be healthy for you, but if I am managing on my diet, I can have as much sugar as I want.  As I said before, for me, after I have a celiac-like reaction to food, if I eat sugar after that I definitely get worse... I believe my body is trying to heal from attacking my intestine (that I feel now ever since going on this diet and healing), otherwise if I am on the diet I can have spoonfuls of honey without a problem...Actually really anything bothers me after I eat something bad, and it takes a couple days to recover, than I can eat anything on my list without a problem.
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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2016, 10:50:52 PM »
Thanks GLC, that's interesting. For me personally (and I speak only for myself), I don't seem to have very many symptoms that are associated with having celiac disease. For example, I don't have any: skin rash, digestive problems, joint/bone problems, seizures, tingling in the legs, ulcers and others that I see are quite common with celiac. For that reason I don't think celiac is my problem. I know symptoms can vary, and it seems that food plays a big part in causing your symptoms, from what you mentioned. Maybe some other poisers have a similar experience with altering diet (let us know). So yeah, for me at least, celiac is not high on my list of potential culprits.
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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2016, 09:47:44 PM »
OK I understand.  For me, it's all food based, with definite reactions after eating.  Maybe that is relieving some other inflammatory process but I don't know.
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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2016, 05:27:47 AM »
Food really affects me too. I have histamine intolerance, so foods like eggs, nuts, avocado, banana and other high histamine foods make me feel bad, outside of pois. I cannot touch gluten, and am even sensitive to foods that contain glucose syrup (which is usually derived from wheat, or corn. it's found in a lot of foods like ice  cream, candy bars, sauces etc).
Sugar is very inflammatory too, I try to avoid it, but it's not half as bad for me as other foods I'm allergic to. That said it does seem to make my pois worse.
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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2016, 09:01:01 PM »
Yeah I can't have Bananas either for some reason.  Glucose syrups bother you?  Shouldn't they have no wheat/corn protein in them?

I'm also baffled by why I can't have skittles but other sugar is fine, maybe corn?  Food coloring?  I have no idea.

Apart from just feeling bad, my mouth ulcers were a major physical sign of food/gluten sensitivity.  The only other question I have is if something else is causing this sensitivity like Lyme or something.
  I doubt it but still I am not sure.
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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2016, 10:53:06 PM »
Another interesting thing I've noticed while on this diet.  I can now tolerate vitamin c much better.  Before I got so sensitive to it that I couldn't even take 200 mg without being up all night.  Now I've been taking 1000 mg the past couple days without much issue.  I do get a little "hyper" feeling but it is much better than before.  I read vitamin c is supposed to help convert dopamine into noradrenaline so that may be why.

Also I may not have celiac.  It more or less seems I just have special food intolerances, not necessarily just related to grains.  Although maybe celiac/ncgs caused other food intolerances I'm not sure.
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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2016, 02:49:04 PM »
Yeah I can't have Bananas either for some reason.  Glucose syrups bother you?  Shouldn't they have no wheat/corn protein in them?

I'm also baffled by why I can't have skittles but other sugar is fine, maybe corn?  Food coloring?  I have no idea.

Apart from just feeling bad, my mouth ulcers were a major physical sign of food/gluten sensitivity.  The only other question I have is if something else is causing this sensitivity like Lyme or something.
  I doubt it but still I am not sure.

Yes, but some people are still sensitive, I've read of bad reactions to glucose syrup from celiac sufferers. It may be more of an issue in the uk as we use wheat glucose syrup more, whereas I believe in the US they use corn glucose syrup.

Skittles contain maltodextrin, I believe? That's also often derived from wheat.

Personally my diet resembles an autoimmune paleo style diet, I avoid nuts, spices, cocoa, grains as much as I can, and it's improved things a lot for me.

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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2016, 02:50:50 PM »
Another interesting thing I've noticed while on this diet.  I can now tolerate vitamin c much better.  Before I got so sensitive to it that I couldn't even take 200 mg without being up all night.  Now I've been taking 1000 mg the past couple days without much issue.  I do get a little "hyper" feeling but it is much better than before.  I read vitamin c is supposed to help convert dopamine into noradrenaline so that may be why.

Also I may not have celiac.  It more or less seems I just have special food intolerances, not necessarily just related to grains.  Although maybe celiac/ncgs caused other food intolerances I'm not sure.

I had the same issues with vitamin c. It Used go make me really wired!

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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2016, 01:48:14 PM »
Also food intolerances here that traditionally probably don't get detected by standard food allergy tests. I'm talking about added food additives with my suspicion looking at glucose or corn syrup. Ready cooked meats from hypermarket such as ribs or chicken catch me out when naive.

After all, in one of Waldinger's papers as mentioned previously it's a known thing that the greater majority of POISers have allergy issues.

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« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2016, 08:16:33 PM »
Another interesting thing I've noticed while on this diet.  I can now tolerate vitamin c much better.  Before I got so sensitive to it that I couldn't even take 200 mg without being up all night.  Now I've been taking 1000 mg the past couple days without much issue.  I do get a little "hyper" feeling but it is much better than before.  I read vitamin c is supposed to help convert dopamine into noradrenaline so that may be why.

Also I may not have celiac.  It more or less seems I just have special food intolerances, not necessarily just related to grains.  Although maybe celiac/ncgs caused other food intolerances I'm not sure.

I had the same issues with vitamin c. It Used go make me really wired!

Same.  I actually ended up getting a mouth ulcer when I ate a vitamin c pill recently so I since have stopped.  I actually do feel a lot better not on any vitamins at all.  I simply don't need them now.

But my diet has to be super specific for me to be 100%.  It's great tho since pois is no longer a problem for me.  Still can o freely.  Just very specific foods can upset me, brain fog and all.  Seems like I have many many food intolerances or hypersensitivities that I have to be so strict in my diet, not to veer off the path of proven tolerable foods.  Still as long as I'm on this diet I am without pois.

Creating your own personal food list is very very helpful and it's been my lifesaver.

Again, if I am not feeling 100%, I know for a fact it is something I ate.
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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2016, 08:25:44 PM »
Also food intolerances here that traditionally probably don't get detected by standard food allergy tests. I'm talking about added food additives with my suspicion looking at glucose or corn syrup. Ready cooked meats from hypermarket such as ribs or chicken catch me out when naive.

After all, in one of Waldinger's papers as mentioned previously it's a known thing that the greater majority of POISers have allergy issues.

Yes, I was tested for all food allergies.  The tests didn't show any allergies to anything.  Buy that is a totally different immune response they are measuring, like life threatening, actual allergy symptoms.  These food intolerances/sensitivities are a totally different aspect of the immune system, possibly even t-cell mediated responses as opposed to histamine related with completely different symptoms.

And there may be a specific protein in the syrups that you are intolerant to.  Gotta love maintaining a food list.
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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2016, 02:50:09 AM »
No gluten or LOW gluten.

Article to reflect on.
Gluten-free diet could damage health of people without coeliac disease, expert claims !

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/05/13/gluten-free-diet-could-damage-health-of-people-without-coeliac-d/
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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2016, 06:27:25 AM »
I've also given it some thoughts of what might be long term effects living on a "wheat- gluten-free diet". I've come across articles mentioning that you'd be missing some vitamins... But at the end of the day I still feel much better off without it, as it partly cured most of my cognitive issues. I still find it strange there are only a % of people coming forward saying this technique has helped them.

According to a quote near the very bottom of this old article (2008) most "autoimmune specialists agree that patients should avoid wheat and gluten products and highly processed foods".

http://www.alternet.org/story/80129/the_autoimmune_epidemic%3A_bodies_gone_haywire_in_a_world_out_of_balance

This is still exactly what has helped me the most over time.

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Re: Diet that partly CURED my POIS!
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2016, 06:42:55 AM »
Just to reply on a trial I did on avocado oil. It did not help me, even when having extra during POIS but it sure did not make me feel worse.

Note: I changed Subject title from: "Diet that Cured my POIS" too: "Diet that partly cured my POIS".....there is no official cure for pois


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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2016, 08:45:55 AM »
I've also given it some thoughts of what might be long term effects living on a "wheat- gluten-free diet". I've come across articles mentioning that you'd be missing some vitamins... But at the end of the day I still feel much better off without it, as it partly cured most of my cognitive issues. I still find it strange there are only a % of people coming forward saying this technique has helped them.

According to a quote near the very bottom of this old article (2008) most "autoimmune specialists agree that patients should avoid wheat and gluten products and highly processed foods".

http://www.alternet.org/story/80129/the_autoimmune_epidemic%3A_bodies_gone_haywire_in_a_world_out_of_balance

This is still exactly what has helped me the most over time.

Thanks for the link, LF, interesting article.  I like the way she expains auto-immune diseases both by external factors like toxins, and also by personal factors like genetic predisposition, emotional stress, and diet.

Last part of the article:
"Studies show that patients with an autoimmune disease also do better if they build a wellness plan that involves reducing stress hormones through a daily habit of meditation and whatever form of exercise they can tolerate. Studies show that autoimmune patients also do much better if they follow "the autoimmune diet," which means consuming foods that are anti-inflammatory. For example, most autoimmune specialists agree that patients should avoid wheat and gluten products and highly processed foods, which can be inflammatory or provoke the immune system to overreact. So one needs to work with a doctor who is open to treating you not just with drugs but also with dietary changes, including making sure you're receiving adequate amounts of the main supplements that have been shown in clinical studies to help autoimmune disease patients, such as omega fatty acids, Vitamin D, antioxidants, probiotics, and glucosamine."


I have already described my own method of reducing POIS, and it includes many elements of what she is listing:  regular meditation, regular exercise, healthy diet ( even if in my case, I do not avoid gluten and wheat completely, I have reduced them, but have eliminated more allergenic food for me, in particular, cow milk, replaced by organic soy beverage.  I have eliminated almost all processed food, and eat a lot of raw nuts and fruits, and other healthy food).  And through my 37 years of POIS, I have already discovered the benefits of almost all the supplements she is talking about.  I take Omega-3 for calm and for less inflammation, Vitamin D because I live up north where there is not much sun, antioxidants, probiotics.  Glucosamine is the only one I didn't take so far, but I have recently bought a particular form of glucosamine, N-Acetyl-Glucosamine ( N-A-G), which is reported by some to help with intestinal inflammation control, and have for some a calming effect  ( too soon to report anything on that one). 

About regular meditation, I point to the fact that its real benefit is to help in emotional control, and avoid the horrible effects of emotional stress/cortisol and adrenaline overproduction.  So, other methods that help at developing a stable, calm, and caring emotional life are as welcomed as meditation, be it psychotherapy, or cognitive behavioral therapy, silent walk in a forest, communication skills development, or anything similar.  Of interest is that studies shows that meditation where one centers his attention on the heart and on compassion and loving kindness for himself, people of his surrounding, and everybody, even those who are not that likeable, is the type of meditation that brings the most benefits.  This type of meditation is called Karuna meditation ( for some scientific results: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080326204236.htm ;  for basic instructions for compassion meditation: http://www.wikihow.com/Practice-Compassion-Meditation )

I can add however that I didn't do all that only for POIS, but also to improve my health in general, and, in particular, have more stamina and be able to practice sport more often and enjoy life by being able to participate in interesting activities more often, connecting better with others, being tired and "out of order" the less often possible.
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Re: Diet that CURED my POIS!
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2016, 09:41:27 PM »
Just to reply on a trial I did on avocado oil. It did not help me, even when having extra during POIS but it sure did not make me feel worse.

Note: I changed Subject title from: "Diet that Cured my POIS" too: "Diet that partly cured my POIS".....there is no official cure for pois

Well maybe you're right.  It's not like I can go off this diet since I'm " cured".  It should be diet that 100% manages my pois.


Just recently I O'd 3 times without symptoms.  I actually took cats claw and vitamin c before in the day as well.  So this is evidence (my pois) that you can boost your immune system and still experience no pois symptoms.  Also supporting the "food sensitivity" theory.

I started taking cats claw again because of a weird thought that I have that I have some bacterial or viral problem, possibly Lyme.  It's not normal to have to eat like this to feel normal at 25yo.  It's weird that cats claw causes joint pain in me that I never have.  This indicated it's either killing something or I am reacting to the drug (probably the second part).  It's also stimulatory.  I wouldn't say I'm in the best mood while on it but it eases me in the sense that I am supporting my body in the case of a bacterial/viral infection (highly doubt but still possible).
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