Diet that 100% manages my POIS! (Changed from:Diet that CURED my POIS!)

[Going less Crazy]

Yes you should definitely refrigerate it but look it up just to make sure.  My own experience with it is that I take a good spoonful or so just once a week, but this is mainly because I'm really sensitive to anything I put in my body.  Probiotics tend to make me feel a little uncomfortably sped up and brain fogged.  I believe this is because it gets through my gut pretty easily, where it is supposed to stay.  So I find once a week optimal for me right now but you may get away with more or less depending on how you feel after taking it.  So it's really up to you.  Good luck.

[VictorHugo]

Thank you going less crazy for the email. I encountered your email about a month and a half back and now I am a big proponent of the Auto Immune Protocol (AIP). I hadn't heard about it. I am feeling more energetic and feel less fearful of an orgasm either in my sleep (night fall), or if I feel a need to mastrubate to relax myself.

Weather or not it has relieved my POIS symptoms is hard to say. I am going to start some highly recommended food (highly nutrient dense food) in the AIP such as bone broth and organ meat, which, I belive will be beneficial, if not in curing the POIS then my general health.

Since the leading hypothesis about POIS is that it is an auto immune disease, and the AIP diet reverses auto immune disease, it does not make sense to me that it will not cure POIS unless POIS is not an auto immune condition.

[Going less Crazy]

Thank you going less crazy for the email. I encountered your email about a month and a half back and now I am a big proponent of the Auto Immune Protocol (AIP). I hadn't heard about it. I am feeling more energetic and feel less fearful of an orgasm either in my sleep (night fall), or if I feel a need to mastrubate to relax myself.

Weather or not it has relieved my POIS symptoms is hard to say. I am going to start some highly recommended food (highly nutrient dense food) in the AIP such as bone broth and organ meat, which, I belive will be beneficial, if not in curing the POIS then my general health.

Since the leading hypothesis about POIS is that it is an auto immune disease, and the AIP diet reverses auto immune disease, it does not make sense to me that it will not cure POIS unless POIS is not an auto immune condition.

Your welcome, don't really remember sending anything but okay lol, and that's good to hear you are doing better on it.  I'm not 100% AIP, as in I do eat a lot of beans and some sugary dressings, etc.  I'll eat a bag of swedish fish on Friday nights sometimes, you know.  I think your not really supposed to be 100% AIP for more than a couple months because it is hard to get calories.  I think AIP is mainly used to figure out what foods you have problems with, but if you have enough food to eat than that's good.  I neeeeed beans though because they are cheap calories and fill me up.  I preach yams and beans so much here.  I'm hoping the diet will relieve your pois symptoms.

Be careful with the bone broth, if it is true gelatinous bone broth.  At times it would make me feel Ill/nauseous.  There is something in it that does that and I can't think on the top of my head what it exactly is.  I don't do bone broth any more.  But your body, your reaction.

Not sure if cure is the right word but it definitely puts autoimmune issues in remission.  Not saying it's impossible to be cured by aip but id say highly unlikely.  However my symptoms now revolve around food only, and not orgasm.  I can't remember my last POIS episode having to do with orgasm, however I have felt POIS due to eating something unusual or that I am testing and react to.  So pois has improved in that respect.

So my POIS was probably just food reactions and than orgasm would completely throw me over the edge and dismantle my well being.  POISers who never reach 100% even after refraining for weeks without orgasm probably have something else as the root cause, like this problem.

Good luck

[bbd2501]

Thanks GLC for sharing. I tried the AIP diet a few months ago. After about 12 days, I could O without any symptoms! Then I started eating normal again and symptoms came back. I am now back on the diet and things are getting better.

I have done a lot of research on food sensitivities as they relate to auto immunity and I can tell you that if your problem is auto immune in nature you should be avoiding LECTINS at all cost.

Note that gluten is  a type of lectin but their are several other foods you must avoid (like the nightshades vegetable for instance, beans and nuts as those are super high in lectins)

If you want to know more, look up Dr Steven Gundry on YouTube. He has a book called the PLANT PARADOX which helps tremendously.

As Hippocrates said, "ALL DISEASE BEGINS IN THE GUT"

[Going less Crazy]

That's great you are having success bbd.  However I believe my problem to be celiac disease.  I do eat beans and I actually avoid them for 3 days when I have been glutened, or eat a food I'm sensitive to, since they are one of the foods that are more difficult to digest.

Celiac only affects your body when you have eaten "gluten", otherwise eating lectins in beans and such should be like a normal person handles it.  I personally do best on a low carb diet but I do need the carbs in beans and sweet potatoes. 

For an AI disease like celiac it would be nonsense to avoid lectins that you can tolerate.  Maybe for some other AI disease like MS it would be wise to avoid lectins, but not for this problem.  That is my personal opinion.  If you can tolerate and feel good eating something, than eat it!

-GLC

[caveeater]

Thank you going less crazy for the email. I encountered your email about a month and a half back and now I am a big proponent of the Auto Immune Protocol (AIP). I hadn't heard about it. I am feeling more energetic and feel less fearful of an orgasm either in my sleep (night fall), or if I feel a need to mastrubate to relax myself.

Weather or not it has relieved my POIS symptoms is hard to say. I am going to start some highly recommended food (highly nutrient dense food) in the AIP such as bone broth and organ meat, which, I belive will be beneficial, if not in curing the POIS then my general health.

Since the leading hypothesis about POIS is that it is an auto immune disease, and the AIP diet reverses auto immune disease, it does not make sense to me that it will not cure POIS unless POIS is not an auto immune condition.

Your welcome, don't really remember sending anything but okay lol, and that's good to hear you are doing better on it.  I'm not 100% AIP, as in I do eat a lot of beans and some sugary dressings, etc.  I'll eat a bag of swedish fish on Friday nights sometimes, you know.  I think your not really supposed to be 100% AIP for more than a couple months because it is hard to get calories.  I think AIP is mainly used to figure out what foods you have problems with, but if you have enough food to eat than that's good.  I neeeeed beans though because they are cheap calories and fill me up.  I preach yams and beans so much here.  I'm hoping the diet will relieve your pois symptoms.

Be careful with the bone broth, if it is true gelatinous bone broth.  At times it would make me feel Ill/nauseous.  There is something in it that does that and I can't think on the top of my head what it exactly is.  I don't do bone broth any more.  But your body, your reaction.

Not sure if cure is the right word but it definitely puts autoimmune issues in remission.  Not saying it's impossible to be cured by aip but id say highly unlikely.  However my symptoms now revolve around food only, and not orgasm.  I can't remember my last POIS episode having to do with orgasm, however I have felt POIS due to eating something unusual or that I am testing and react to.  So pois has improved in that respect.

So my POIS was probably just food reactions and than orgasm would completely throw me over the edge and dismantle my well being.  POISers who never reach 100% even after refraining for weeks without orgasm probably have something else as the root cause, like this problem.

Good luck

Ive found this to be true for myself. I follow an AIPish diet, I avoid grains, dairy, eggs, night shades...most things except cacao and occasionally spices. I feel a lot lot better, and my POIS brainfog is improved. I've noticed my food reactions tend to get worse when in POIS, but they're always there under the surface. I suspect I may have Candida...had to give up fruits for the time being.

I have histamine intolerance so, for me it's just another part of the puzzle that fits in with POIS. Orgasm causes histamine release...my body has trouble processing histamine on a genetic level (DAO enzyme deficiency).

[Quantum]

Ive found this to be true for myself. I follow an AIPish diet, I avoid grains, dairy, eggs, night shades...most things except cacao and occasionally spices. I feel a lot lot better, and my POIS brainfog is improved. I've noticed my food reactions tend to get worse when in POIS, but they're always there under the surface. I suspect I may have Candida...had to give up fruits for the time being.

I have histamine intolerance so, for me it's just another part of the puzzle that fits in with POIS. Orgasm causes histamine release...my body has trouble processing histamine on a genetic level (DAO enzyme deficiency).

Hi caveeater,

Have you tried quercetin , and vitamin C, for your histamine issues, and if so, what results did you get ?

Have you tried DAO supplements ? 

[caveeater]

Ive found this to be true for myself. I follow an AIPish diet, I avoid grains, dairy, eggs, night shades...most things except cacao and occasionally spices. I feel a lot lot better, and my POIS brainfog is improved. I've noticed my food reactions tend to get worse when in POIS, but they're always there under the surface. I suspect I may have Candida...had to give up fruits for the time being.

I have histamine intolerance so, for me it's just another part of the puzzle that fits in with POIS. Orgasm causes histamine release...my body has trouble processing histamine on a genetic level (DAO enzyme deficiency).

Hi caveeater,

Have you tried quercetin , and vitamin C, for your histamine issues, and if so, what results did you get ?

Have you tried DAO supplements ?

Yes, I found vitamin C helped somewhat, and Quercetin also helps depending on the type I use. I've found Neuroprotek to be the best, although its expensive.

I haven't had much luck with DAO supplements (and it seems neither do many people with histamine issues). They contain pork which is ironically an allergen in itself for some people. Hopefully one day they'll bring out some sort of DAO increasing probiotic suppement.
I've also found that Curcumin, although a good supplement, reduces DAO levels so I have to be very careful of taking it. Alcohol also reduces DAO levels.

I also take Cromolyn, a mast cell stabilizer. It helps with food based histamine reactions (which are always more noticeable when in a POIS episode).

[Jimmy]

Hi GLC

Did you have gluten withdrawal symptoms when you started the diet ? I removed gluten for almost 3 days & I feel awful ( fatigue, depression and acute diarrhea).

Unfortunately, I have to stop it for now as I have tight work schedule 

Thank you

[Going less Crazy]

Hi GLC

Did you have gluten withdrawal symptoms when you started the diet ? I removed gluten for almost 3 days & I feel awful ( fatigue, depression and acute diarrhea).

Unfortunately, I have to stop it for now as I have tight work schedule 

Thank you

You might need to add more carbs.  I did go through some weird thing but I think it was because I wasn't getting enough carbs.  Goya black beans and yams/sweet potatoes help.

[Spartak]

Hello,
I am happy to read that diet prevented your POIS problems.
It sounds far from possible when it come to my case. Also it is amazing how some products can be completly POIS safe forone person and bas for a other. For me all fruits are POIS enemy, I presume due sugar they contain.
While you can eat apple for example.

[Going less Crazy]

Hello,
I am happy to read that diet prevented your POIS problems.
It sounds far from possible when it come to my case. Also it is amazing how some products can be completly POIS safe forone person and bas for a other. For me all fruits are POIS enemy, I presume due sugar they contain.
While you can eat apple for example.

From what I have found, it is hard to verify what foods you have problems with if you are continuously eating say "gluten" or something that harms you.  I can and did have problems with apples in a certain way while I was eating a gluten containing diet.  Every food seemed to affect me some way before I gave up grains and continuously ate foods my body handled well.  It is when you feel good and are eating well when you find out what foods work for you, because than you can truly tell what harms you.

Again, I had no idea that food was my problem, causing all POIS symptoms that seemed to be orgasm triggered (I believe O, in my case, created some inflammational immune state in my brain where blood had rushed to after O.  The brain should normally be immune to the immune processes in the body, but I believe O created some bypass mechanism where inflamed blood crossed into the brain)

So all these residual POIS symptoms were really just caused by food.  Antiinflammatories help a lot.  And recently I discovered microdoses of Turmeric/curcumin which has made me feel incredible combined with my personal diet.

[Spartak]

@ Going less Crazy,
I've tried gluten free diet, no change.
Since I quit sugars, I notticed chnge in general well being, but also in POIS severity. But it's really minor improvment, I am still far from functional during POIS. And improvment is feelinbetter 1st day of pois, 2nd is pretty similar as before. At least for me there are clear differences between 1st and 2nd day symptoms.
I find your idea about Pois as vey interesting. I have no idea what is going on, but I am generally too sensitive.
Not just Pois-wise, so there might be somethig. But I am toobafraid to experimente(too much) and make any conclusions on my own. I  wait and hope that we will have soon enough somehing scientific to work on.
Tumeric I avoid, it caused me some burning inflamation inside, maybe in prostate but also in urehra, which resulted in buch of uncontroled no E mini Orgasms, I was unusual form of Pois-ed for a weeks.. Same even worse reaction I had/have from Magnessium supplementation, so I started to avoid food high in Magneasium as well.
I read here about anti-Inflammantores, but it is foreign term for me, I get confused a lot when I read yours or Quantums posts about it.

[Going less Crazy]

@ Going less Crazy,
I've tried gluten free diet, no change.
Since I quit sugars, I notticed chnge in general well being, but also in POIS severity. But it's really minor improvment, I am still far from functional during POIS. And improvment is feelinbetter 1st day of pois, 2nd is pretty similar as before. At least for me there are clear differences between 1st and 2nd day symptoms.
I find your idea about Pois as vey interesting. I have no idea what is going on, but I am generally too sensitive.
Not just Pois-wise, so there might be somethig. But I am toobafraid to experimente(too much) and make any conclusions on my own. I  wait and hope that we will have soon enough somehing scientific to work on.
Tumeric I avoid, it caused me some burning inflamation inside, maybe in prostate but also in urehra, which resulted in buch of uncontroled no E mini Orgasms, I was unusual form of Pois-ed for a weeks.. Same even worse reaction I had/have from Magnessium supplementation, so I started to avoid food high in Magneasium as well.
I read here about anti-Inflammantores, but it is foreign term for me, I get confused a lot when I read yours or Quantums posts about it.

Okay.  Yes I tried a gluten free diet for a month a long time ago and it didn't help.  It wasn't until I avoided ALL GRAINS and DAIRY where I started feeling good.  Also several additives.  Don't take offense to the capitalized words I'm just making sure you understand.

For turmeric, I take it in very very small microdoses.  Like 5-10 mg every morning.  The pills I take now each contain 50mg curcumin.  I tried other turmeric pills that contained 400mg curcumin and I could not even handle a pinch, so the curcumin content matters a lot. Turmeric/curcumin pills, for me, are very strong stuff.  There is a special dose that really benefits me.  So if by chance you are like me maybe you can handle very small doses.

Interesting I also had problems with magnesium.  I don't know if it's a certain type of mg I'm sensitive to or not.  But for now I get my vitamins naturally from food, other than another dab of a b-complex vitamin that I microdose with too.

And removing added sugar is also beneficial.  Less sugar = less inflammation.

[radditz]

Hello,
i started my own food journey a while ago. I stopped most sexual activity some time ago but on nights were i O'ed in the sleep i was still feeling a heavy fatique for the next 1-2 days.

I am also experiencing daytime fatique and fatique after eating. I had glucose checked, thyroid checked, blood checked without any results. I do have a dust mite allergy.

Because of all that i started a elimination diet. Started only with fresh meat and cauliflower. Started to feel really great after 2-3 days. Then added dairy and symptoms got worse again. Also added eggs then and i felt the very same fatique from the beginning. 
I started again with meat and cauliflower again and added corn, rice and wheat. Fatique again.

I repeated this process several times. Fresh meet and cauliflower is my healthy fallback were i safely can test things upon.

Long story short. It SEEMS that my own unfinished list is starting to look like the one from @Going Less Crazy. I do not believe, that this is a coincidence. I think he has done some really good researching here.
I am thrilled to try out sweet potatos as source for carbs, because my current diet does not contain any carbs at all.

edit: What about peanuts? I ate quite a lot last night without any problems this day.