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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2019, 02:03:49 PM »
Autonomic instability/endothelial dysfunction/mast cell activity? Put a winter cap/hood on your head and walk around with it inside your house for a while and observe a similar effect. The body doesn't seem to respond properly to changes especially when these changes are large and rapid. Yes, showering the head gives me a worse reaction than the rest of the body. Heat is stress.
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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2020, 07:24:48 PM »
Muon, Quantum, anyone? Is there an explanation (MCA or other)  for my terrible reaction (mostly extreme fatigue) to showers, no matter how brief or how warm/cold or how little of the body is showered? Interesting to see Muon’s similar reaction and possible explanation in the adjacent post.

ps - today’s “terrible” reaction seemed to be from focusing the nozzle on my face & head, closeup, to rinse my beard, mustache & hair on top (very little :) )
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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2020, 08:12:14 AM »
MCs can respond to pressure. There are other poisers having symptoms elsewhere triggered by pressure. Pressure from the shower independent of temperature:

https://youtu.be/6gfTFwJgIVQ?t=1777

Btw Demo didn't you have this pins and needles symptom at your fingertips? I remembered you told me something about it:

https://youtu.be/6gfTFwJgIVQ?t=2002
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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2020, 01:34:08 PM »
MCs can respond to pressure. There are other poisers having symptoms elsewhere triggered by pressure. Pressure from the shower independent of temperature:

https://youtu.be/6gfTFwJgIVQ?t=1777

Thank you!

Btw Demo didn't you have this pins and needles symptom at your fingertips? I remembered you told me something about it:

https://youtu.be/6gfTFwJgIVQ?t=2002

Hideous symptom!! Thanks again.
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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2020, 12:35:26 PM »
Taking a cold shower can boost dopamine by as much as 250 percent, according to a study published in the European Journal of Applied Physiology. This is because it can boost mood and productivity all day.
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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2020, 01:40:34 PM »
Taking a cold shower can boost dopamine by as much as 250 percent, according to a study published in the European Journal of Applied Physiology. This is because it can boost mood and productivity all day.
Thank you, b_jim!
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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2020, 05:09:25 AM »
I take a standard hot shower, but I make sure that none of the hot water touches my head/neck.

At the end of the shower I turn the temperature down to fairly cold (not freezing!), and wash my hair.

It has worked for me for several years :)

To clarify, the temperature is important - too hot or too cold both have negative effects on me. I set the temperature to 15 degrees C when I wash my hair - you want the water to be neither warm nor cold.

During the first part of the shower when the water is hot, it takes a bit of practice to avoid any of the water hitting your head  :)
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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2020, 01:05:40 PM »
Muon, I took your shower-force = pressure = symptoms to heart & used
running-bath-water-as-a-bird-bath instead.

It worked!

Thanks.
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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2020, 07:09:40 PM »
Muon, I took your shower-force = pressure = symptoms to heart & used
running-bath-water-as-a-bird-bath instead.

It worked!

Thanks.


Very interesting finding, thanks to Muon's deduction.

This may be helpful for other POISers who have problems with showers ( not my case, though).

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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2020, 10:49:54 PM »
Thanks, Quantum.
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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2020, 07:23:11 AM »
Muon, I took your shower-force = pressure = symptoms to heart & used
running-bath-water-as-a-bird-bath instead.

It worked!

Thanks.


Very interesting finding, thanks to Muon's deduction.

This may be helpful for other POISers who have problems with showers ( not my case, though).

One thing to consider is that many (most?) countries don't have high-pressure showers, although I believe they are common in North America. When I stayed at a friend's house in Vancouver, I remember the shower almost taking my head off  ;D ;D ;D


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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2020, 05:20:21 PM »
Does anyone have water allergy? I have it since a year. I get sick after taking a shower. The symptoms are just like POIS. Dry mouth, dry lips, dry nose. And itching. It doesn't matter if I use warm or cold water. I use soap without perfume. I think I hot water allergy because of POIS, the use of antibiotics and maybe also because of the desens programm.

Edit: I do not think that I have a water allergy. But I just feel cold and sick after a hot shower.

I do think these are mast cell issues and/or problems with sensory nerve endings/brain communication. MCAS/MCMD should be fully investigated IMHO. Also water is made out of electric dipoles, the electric equivalent of magnets basically, I wonder if that property can affect the skin somehow. CBD probably helped him because of the cannabinomimetic control of mast cells and/or it affected sensory nerve fibers.
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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2020, 07:10:01 PM »
Ranitidine H2 blocker works for me when taken after a shower or water contact, I have tried it in the past taking it every day for 2 weeks and I had brain fog constantly activating from it and my stomach felt like a pressure cooker and also my eyes also became very sore and shrunk in size (closed eyelids) and became extremely bloodshot when I showered(much more than usual)

I will now just take it only after showers/water contact or any time where my brain feels "infected". Since going on detox supplements for mould and candida I can tolerate drugs, supplements and food much better than before so maybe I would be able to take the h2 blocker daily now with no bad effects. I'm also thinking about purchasing Neuroprotek Luteolin, Quercetin + Rutin Complex.

Ranitidine is being taken off the shelves in UK and US because of carcinogens found so I will find another H2 blocker to use.

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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2020, 12:20:55 PM »
Ranitidine H2 blocker works for me when taken after a shower or water contact

Sounds like mast cell activation to me.

Quote from: Heather1111
Reading through the posts. Very hot showers effect me too. Very interesting!

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Re: Feeling worse after a shower
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2020, 07:00:51 AM »
Ranitidine H2 blocker works for me when taken after a shower or water contact

Sounds like mast cell activation to me.

Quote from: Heather1111
Reading through the posts. Very hot showers effect me too. Very interesting!

Muon do you have any ideas why when I take Ranitidine after a shower it gets rid of the horrible feeling in my head and brain but it causes autistic symptoms like eye contact issues and maybe some anxiety also, at the time of taking and in the days afterwards.
If I take more than once in a row it also can activate brain fog and autistic symptoms, and when I tried taking it for two weeks every day I had brain fog activating the whole time and my eyelids became very closed and my eyes look small. Also had incredibly red eyes after showers
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