wiped.

[Observer]

Anyway, I now wonder if I actually have an allergic reaction to niacin regardless of dosage. As for whether niacin helped with POIS (I took it over one hour before O; when the flush was starting to subside a little), I recall no noticeable improvements. Perhaps niacin is not for me or maybe the dosage was too high--the system shock negated/reversed the intended benefits?

Ali, let the flush to subside completely to be sure. If you are going to try again, crush the niacin into powder and take a lower dose (150-200 mg, 500 mg is too much as you said).

If i do not wait until the flush has dissappeared and i have an O. i am exposing myself to the risk of having some POIS. Has happened before.

The other thing is that i can reset my symptoms if i have a "flushed orgasm" while i have POIS symptoms. Taking niacin without having an Orgasm while in POIS will only help me for some hours and POIS will kick again after the effect subsides.

 This is my advice. Good luck and tell us your experience.

[Daveman]

Great. The O couldn't wait for your answer and I took five times a good dosage. I'm an I.D.I.O.T.

Niacin flushes out toxins in tissue cells. Perhaps the large dose released so many that they are still floating around forming a rash.

Some people can take 1000 mg or more per day, but they have to build up a tollerance to it. Not what we want to do however. These that take those kind of doses, don't even get a flush from the 1000 or so they take. I guess that's why they make bigger pills.

I'm sure the rashwill clear. I always err on the low side, I'm a chicken sh.t sometimes. Always worried that my rush will be too strong!! You won't have to worry about that at least, you know what your limit is! I'm sure you'll be more careful the next time

But please, don't give up. Try at least one more time, by the books. Give yourself time to get back to normal first.

As I said, at least 150 or so won't come close to doing what it did this time so you can relax on that worry anyway.

Sorry about your scare though. Sometimes we are alone in these experiments!!

[aalkaff]

Well, I don't mind trying out niacin again. Properly this time. I'll wait for the rashes to completely go away first.

[Vincent M]

Well, I don't mind trying out niacin again. Properly this time. I'll wait for the rashes to completely go away first.

seeing as you did have such a severe reaction i would suggest you only take 50mg to 100mg next time if you're able to divide the powder into that small of an increment.

[Daveman]

Good suggestion VM. Always better to be safe. And just in case, the system might be more susceptible to niacin because it got hit so hard. give it the time to straighten itself out.

[omen]

Hi its been long I haven't posted....I have been experiencing a strange activity in my body ...whenever I used to have sex/orgasm in the night before sleeping from the next day till the 7th day I suffer from heavy brain fog and suddenly on the 7th day I feel better but since 2 months I tried something new whenever I have sex in the night the next morning again I have an orgasm which helps me a lot I go into brain fog for that day and the next day but on day 3 I suddenly feel better as if I am out of the brain fog...but this lasts for some days till then I avoid orgasms but on the 7th or 8th day I feel a liitle over better means I don't know how should I explain u guys its like the chemicals in the brain exceed the level they should be and I feel little uncomfortable but that feeling is not like pois no brain fog its like I become more cautious more energetic like someone who knows everything...something like ADHD?...I don't know but I am gonna find out...I have an appointment with a neurologist on tuesday...he is one of the best in India...I will tell him everything what I am suffering thru..I hope he helps me out...bye friends...I will keep u updated...

[Ccconfucius]

Hi its been long I haven't posted....I have been experiencing a strange activity in my body ...whenever I used to have sex/orgasm in the night before sleeping from the next day till the 7th day I suffer from heavy brain fog and suddenly on the 7th day I feel better but since 2 months I tried something new whenever I have sex in the night the next morning again I have an orgasm which helps me a lot I go into brain fog for that day and the next day but on day 3 I suddenly feel better as if I am out of the brain fog...but this lasts for some days till then I avoid orgasms but on the 7th or 8th day I feel a liitle over better means I don't know how should I explain u guys its like the chemicals in the brain exceed the level they should be and I feel little uncomfortable but that feeling is not like pois no brain fog its like I become more cautious more energetic like someone who knows everything...something like ADHD?...I don't know but I am gonna find out...I have an appointment with a neurologist on tuesday...he is one of the best in India...I will tell him everything what I am suffering thru..I hope he helps me out...bye friends...I will keep u updated...

Omen i fully know what you are talking about that is what my recovery used be like.  ( you just feel so good, you feel like you have pumped pull of caffeine adrelanine.) I used to time my esssays for those days, i wrote them so easily.

[omen]

Now I am in pois today is the 1 st day...I am so upset...and annoyed...

[Daveman]

Since NSF is down, and when it's down from time to time, this is sort of like the NSF area, a general discussion thread.

Specific themes of course are better placed in their area for proper organization.

Now that the "Main WEB Page" is up, we're going to start to get more attention. I saw in Google Alerts, that the new survey page popped up after only a day. Prior we were getting an advisory once a month at best.

[Daveman]

The first survey is available. It won't let you in if you're not on the list (both for SPAM reasons and survey control reasons). This frst survey will help to develop POIS goups and will associate you with one of them. So it's important that the biggest number of us fill it out.

Later I'll make a second identical one to be filled out by volunteers, who will go through the 150 or so members that had previously filled in data, and which we have in a Word doc, and fill in their data.

The reason for the second one is that it won't automatically associate the person's name who entered the data to that data, but will use the manually entered username of the survery. This second one in conjunction with the first one will give us a powerful database to be used in isolating remedial effects per POIS type.

Very exciting, but we will need you whole hearted cooperation. It's an important prelude to our research program.

A third survey to come soon is a niacin related survey. This will also be able to be cross-referenced by POIS group.

[Daveman]

Sorry, I'm going to try to generate a list of "respondents" today or tomorrow so that you can enter the survey with your usernames.

[omen]

I feel orgasm is not the only thing that triggers this syndrome even doing cardio exercise for just some normal time like walking on the treadmill with incline or running on the treadmill for some time also triggers pois for me...your heartrate should increase...I feel there is nno allergy from semen or anything...pois is all about the neurotransmitters in the brain...when we orgasm they are disturbed...when we run on the treadmill the heart pumps blood and oxygen with pressure even this disturbs the neurotransmitters...that's all...try it friends if running on the treadmill also gives pois then there is nothing like post orgasmic illness syndrome...its just something to do with the chemicals in our mind..bye

[mellivora]

Thanks for the post Omen. I'm sorry you get POIS symptoms from exercise too, that must be frustrating. Its not the case for me even with heavy aerobic exercise as you describe. How long do your symptoms last after a session on a treadmill?

[omen]

I will check..yesterday in the morning I did treadmill with incline and immediately after stoping I was in brain fog...I am waiting for the recovery and will let u know about it...

[badgerstripe]

@Omen

I have found similar brain-fog when i have really overexerted myself by walking for miles, gardening or surfing beyond exhaustion. Exhaustion will obviously make anybody, well ... exhausted, but its the brain-fog element that seems to be unusual and that most people dont seem to get.

[omen]

I can't take any decisions today...when I am so good and fast at it...thanks to my mind...

[omen]

The brain fog which I got from walking on the treadmill with full incline did not recover even on day 2...this led me to press the O button and now I am fully into pois...now it will take 2 days to recover...till then life in fog...f@#@

[jim zenk]

this is jim a new member,i was refered to a chinese herb doctor today. if it works i will let you know.

[Vincent M]

jim, have you tried the herbs that have already helped POIS members such as fenugreek, saw palmetto, and relora?

[Ccconfucius]

So i was alone with a girl hoping to just flirt and  have a great conversation guess what nothing totall fail 
I am going to give that up for a while it is just to hard coming up with shit talk about
Hope On!!!!!