The pois is over

[Nas]

Ok, so never mind, I did masturbate two times and I feel like crap, didn't notice any effects psychologically maybe physically it was effective but still having the same depression, lack of motivation, anhedonia, problem with words, anxiety, etc..
Any advice ? would be really helpful and yes I do take anti-depressants but they only make me less depressed

Hi Nas,

We cannot give medical advice here on the forum.  However, we can share what works for us.  So you can read on the forum about what works for others.  If something seems interesting for you to try, you then check with a health professional if it is o.k. for you, considering your conditions and the medication you are taking.  In any case, for supplements, always use safe doses, starting very low, and try only one new thing at a time.

If you want to read what is safe for me and works for me, see the first post in this thread

yeah I've checked your forum and hell you take alot of medications, for me I will try some real acetylcholinesetrase inhabitors and see if they work
god this illness is a serious curse. I mean, sex is one of the most enjoyable things in life and my self is a loner so I have a lot of time with my self and for me it has been always the choise between real life, or masturbation and no matter how much I stay with-drawled masturbation always wins... sigh.

[Quantum]

yeah I've checked your forum and hell you take alot of medications

Nas, I have chosen not to use any prescription drugs, so if you look carefully, you will see that all that I use against POIS are natural products and vitamins.  That is not what is usually meant by " taking a lot of medications", so let me politely disagree with your above comment.   Also, I do not take any of these on a daily basis - only before release, which, for me, is the less often possible.

As pointed in the post I have referred too, the lifestyle changes part is as important as the supplements, in my case.  All this put together has made a tremendous change in my life - I am not cured, but for more than a year now, I am no longer bothered at a significant level by any POIS symptom.   

[Nas]

yeah I've checked your forum and hell you take alot of medications

Nas, I have chosen not to use any prescription drugs, so if you look carefully, you will see that all that I use against POIS are natural products and vitamins.  That is not what is usually meant by " taking a lot of medications", so let me politely disagree with your above comment.   Also, I do not take any of these on a daily basis - only before release, which, for me, is the less often possible.

As pointed in the post I have referred too, the lifestyle changes part is as important as the supplements, in my case.  All this put together has made a tremendous change in my life - I am not cured, but for more than a year now, I am no longer bothered at a significant level by any POIS symptom.

yeeah sorry didn't notice they were supplements anywasy It would be hard for me to find them in my country ( Iraq ), plus I'm looking for a medication that will give me freedom to orgasm when ever I want or else it's just an eternal hell for me
such a curse

[Nas]

So as the memantine failed, I will be trying donepazil 5mg in the night to see it's effects on me psychologicaly and after orgasm to see its effects on the POIS

[certainlypois2]

Trying pure encapsulations alpha-GPC  an advanced delivery form for phosphatidylcholine to increase acethylcholine.   It is a big help in 3 non POIS days so far.  I am in my fourth day. And day 1 after O.

I also take immunocal which is a very special whey protein which affects neurotransmitters and a powerful antioxidant. I is also a powerful lactic acid scavenger.  It  gives me lots of energy.  Can get that at amazon.com  about $80 for 30 packs (a month supply for me)

My mind is so much clearer and anxiety is almost gone with the combo.  Immunocal alone helps (taken it since 2000), but the mental clarity and peace comes from the phosphatidylcholine. Immunocal tends to increase inflammation some...

Today is day one after O.   Much, much better.  The social anxiety, concentration, inability to deal with stressful situations is almost gone!   I need to take about 3 pills a day spaced out  to keep levels up throughout the day. Still tired some, but so much better.  The feeling that the brain is on fire (I believe due to inflammation) is mostly gone.    I feel so much better and I am very optimistic about our future.  I feel the phospholipid layer in our cells  may be compromised, which limits energy production in the cells and inter cellular interactions. This may also be affecting neurological communications.

I believe that as I continue to use it everyday my body will slowly recover completely in time.  The alpha-GPC has made a phenomenal difference in just 4 days.  I buy it from www.purecaps.com.   

It is pricy, but sign up a "health practitioner" and they give a 50% discount if you sign up as such.  So it is about $20 bucks for 60 caps.
You might want to save money that way too.  Heck I practiced on my self for 23 years!  LOL

I will also try phosphatidylserine which also increases acethylcholine and see what happens.

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POIS and CFS sudden  simultaneous onset since 1993.

Mrraba have you tried immunopro, according to amazon reviews it is just as good. It is currently 28  dollars on amazon for 1 container and on immunopro's official website it is 50 dollars for a container.

You can  get 90day supply of alpagpc from powdercity for about 40 dollars and if you buy the powder version I believe it is cheaper.

I have a shipment coming in for me to try.

[Mr Raba]

 Again, I had bad experiences with Immunpro.  After many years of testing and trying different whey proteins, I found that immunocal is the one that works best for me. And there is a   huge difference between them on how they make feel.

[certainlypois2]

crap, It is already here.  Immunopro does not expire for a while, I will try immunocal first and then  come back to immunopro to compare.

[Mr Raba]

Keep us posted on how you respond.  Also if u feel inflammed. Quercetin works very fast for me.
Day one great with quercetin. But i learned not to mess with day two. I Just let my body balance on its own on day 2 after O.

Please see my posts on how I take whey.  Ithink it is important not too take too much too fast.

[caveeater]

Re: olanzipine

I know someone who was on anti psychotics and had POIS symptoms, caused by the medication. After being off them for a while he has now recovered.

[Nas]

Re: olanzipine

I know someone who was on anti psychotics and had POIS symptoms, caused by the medication. After being off them for a while he has now recovered.

Can you tell us what kind of medication he was on ?

[Mr Raba]

crap, It is already here.  Immunopro does not expire for a while, I will try immunocal first and then  come back to immunopro to compare.

How did it go with immunocal?