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sameer7777

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oh its really really hard to stop masterbating .....
« on: August 29, 2011, 07:31:35 PM »
i tried alot but could not stop my self trying to get O without ejaculation , but i am not sure its very very very hard ..........
any thing u guys can tip my for lowest cycle day of pois ????????????
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AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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Re: oh its really really hard to stop masterbating .....
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 08:28:16 AM »
have you been taking fenugreek and garlic? Taking it before or after I masturbate help relieve a lot of my POIS.
Taking ginger tea, no wheat, fenugreek+green tea/garlic, saw palmetto, niacin, boswellia, huperzine, B complex and nutmeg. See my treatment summary post for more info: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=81.msg3513#msg3513

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Re: oh its really really hard to stop masterbating .....
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2011, 01:58:23 PM »
Why is it so hard to stop?  This in itself is an issue.  Your brain may be addicted to it's own chemicals, which is bad and has you stuck in an unhealthy loop.

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Re: oh its really really hard to stop masterbating .....
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2011, 05:43:38 PM »
Try seeking medical attention to lower sex drive, antidepressants on the intrim do it quite well. Nothing, however will beat will power.

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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2011, 01:49:22 PM »
Sameer,

I tried to stop for years, and there was really only one thing that helped me at all: breathing meditations. What these consist of is calming your mind down and emptying it of thoughts by focusing on your breathing. When I first started looking for ways to stop orgasming I was doing full-on meditations every day, because it really gives you terrific control over your mind and helps you focus. Its benefits increased my productivity and allowed me to keep my mind from turning to sex so often. If I were you, I'd give developing a strong and consistent meditation practice some serious thought.

Once you've been meditating for a few months, you can stop meditating and just take the elements of it that are needed to break your dependence on orgasms. I, for instance, used to go into a brief (10 seconds, about) breathing meditation everytime I thought about pornography or sex. (I was addicted to porn for like 6 years.) Now that i've got my mind under control, I only feel the urge to mastrubate about once a week.

I've said that i'd like to give a brief primer on meditation on this forum but haven't done it because I don't know if people are interested. Think there'd be interest? Also, I feel like there really needs to be a place for the posters that have had success with abstention to share our tips. Maybe i'll do this next week...

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Re: oh its really really hard to stop masterbating .....
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2011, 07:20:41 PM »

I've said that i'd like to give a brief primer on meditation on this forum but haven't done it because I don't know if people are interested. Think there'd be interest? Also, I feel like there really needs to be a place for the posters that have had success with abstention to share our tips. Maybe i'll do this next week...


I've already read some basic information on meditation here and there and tried it a small number of times, but I'd be interested to know specifically how you use it to counter and control sexual urges.
Taking ginger tea, no wheat, fenugreek+green tea/garlic, saw palmetto, niacin, boswellia, huperzine, B complex and nutmeg. See my treatment summary post for more info: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=81.msg3513#msg3513

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Re: oh its really really hard to stop masterbating .....
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2013, 12:02:22 PM »
I also abstain from orgasming and the method i follow is to not think at all about sex or women etc..When my mind starts to think about it i immedietely stop this thought and continue like nothing is happening.Also i try to avoid looking good looking women..I 've suffered so much from POIS that now i feel like not having a choice,like masturbation doesnt exist for me,like i dont have a gender..So this is what i do..Try it and be courageous and patient.

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Re: oh its really really hard to stop masterbating .....
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2014, 05:24:28 AM »
Here's a thought that drives me crazy. What if I quit masterbating long enough to overcome POIS and then I ejaculate during a wet dream. All it takes is one ejaculation to wreck my body down to the ground. That would be the worst thing!

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Re: oh its really really hard to stop masterbating .....
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2014, 07:05:43 AM »
+1 !

I have tried a whole pile of additives to my diet, and the only two which work* are Saw Palmetto and Fenugreek. Order some online right now, and then it will arrive at your house + you can't forget to take it. Leave the bottles in a prominent place, and take them every day. Works wonders for me.

* I have tried months on and off every supplement that I take, and these two had a noticeable effect. Others did not. 

why saw palmetto , does it related to enlarged prostate.... or what , shouild we take some meds for enlarged prostate .... pls guide ......
pls don't expose me.
AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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Re: oh its really really hard to stop masterbating .....
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2014, 02:15:23 AM »
Sameer I can relate. For 19-20 years I have been trying to abstain. The longest time I ever went was 6 month because I was really suck from another illness. My avg is 2-3 weeks. Stopping is like stopping a drug I get withdrawal symptoms. Then once I pass 2-3 weeks no withdrawl. But then I see some sex in a movie or my gf gets me horny and wham I will masterbate 2-3x a day for a few days like making up lost time. I am just making myself sick by doing even once but I cant freaked help it. This illness sucks!
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Re: oh its really really hard to stop masterbating .....
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2014, 03:53:24 PM »
Sameer I can relate. For 19-20 years I have been trying to abstain. The longest time I ever went was 6 month because I was really suck from another illness. My avg is 2-3 weeks. Stopping is like stopping a drug I get withdrawal symptoms. Then once I pass 2-3 weeks no withdrawl. But then I see some sex in a movie or my gf gets me horny and wham I will masterbate 2-3x a day for a few days like making up lost time. I am just making myself sick by doing even once but I cant freaked help it. This illness sucks!

Very true. It's a lose-lose situation. Orgasm, and I feel bad. Abstain too long, and I feel bad & frustrated. I hope by waiting long enough the "withdrawal symptoms" will fade, like they did for you.
And congrats on being another New Jerseyer! We have a few here. And best of all that's where the POIS research will be done. Go New Jersey!

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Re: oh its really really hard to stop masterbating .....
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2014, 06:30:43 PM »
Why is it so hard to stop?  This in itself is an issue.  Your brain may be addicted to it's own chemicals, which is bad and has you stuck in an unhealthy loop.

It's not really an unhealthy issue, it's just what we POISers believe to be unhealthy, because it causes a reaction in us and we think it occurs in others who don't have POIS but it doesn't. Masturbating is just like relieving pressure, it is in no way a drug although it can make us feel terrible, that's just our own reaction to it.  The issue isn't masturbating for us, more like when and what medications we should be taking beforehand.
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Re: oh its really really hard to stop masterbating .....
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2014, 09:12:07 AM »
Why is it so hard to stop?  This in itself is an issue.  Your brain may be addicted to it's own chemicals, which is bad and has you stuck in an unhealthy loop.

It's not really an unhealthy issue, it's just what we POISers believe to be unhealthy, because it causes a reaction in us and we think it occurs in others who don't have POIS but it doesn't. Masturbating is just like relieving pressure, it is in no way a drug although it can make us feel terrible, that's just our own reaction to it.  The issue isn't masturbating for us, more like when and what medications we should be taking beforehand.
No, this is incorrect.  Orgasm releases pleasure chemicals in the brain no different than cocaine or other drugs.  You can get 'hooked' on these just as easily.