Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS

[b_jim]

I can confirme my Pois is very reduced since one month. I feel good even if I didn't have to have a lot of physical activity on day 1 or day 0.
 I still follow low GI diet, but I took 100 to 150 mg of niacin 1 hour before orgasm. I follow the washing strategy too just after.

[sameer7777]

what is your niacin tab send me the pic or link and what is washing strategy ?

[sameer7777]

May be as I am in Pois I can't understand please tell me how much niacin should I take

[Observer]

I am still calculating with the fact, that the so-called POIS may be the result of the way, we experience sexual arousal and orgasm. Porn addiction, being a male, frequent self-stimulation and many other variables can represent "positive" co-factors in the development and chronicity of this condition. Niacin, on the other hand, is capable of regulating this way of achieving orgasm due to its aphrodisiac properties.

He clearly suffers from what we call "POIS" and yet he can have intercourse with his wife being brain fog-free.

Any reasonable explanation for this?

That case sounds very strange for me. I will experience POIS if i have sexual intercourse , nocturnal emission or masturbation. The remedies that worked on alleviating my POIS symptoms in the past, specially Fenugreek, reduced a long way the pleasure of the orgasm. An orgasm with fenugreek could be 5 or 6 times less pleasurable than a normal one - i would hardly call fenugreek an aphrodisiac then-. and POIS could be reduced a lot in intensity/duration due to fenugreek.
Niacin is not reducing the intensity of the orgasm, but i do not feel that my sexual desire goes up after taking niacin...it stays the same.

[JRD]

An orgasm with fenugreek could be 5 or 6 times less pleasurable than a normal one - i would hardly call fenugreek an aphrodisiac then-.

This is quite interesting, because it changed the way, you experienced an orgasm and the result was less severe POIS. Niacin is maybe quite fast acting, with short-term duration and therefore it is critical to catch the right moment to reach the best results (flush period?). I don't think taking aphrodisiacs necessarily means less pleasurable orgasm experience, they may rather serve as an "orgasm or pleasure regulator".

What if the way we experience an orgasm/arousal is deflected intellectualized dirt, instead of full bodily act. I only can tell I am always totally paralyzed seeing or noticing anything stimulating and this is heavily escalated during watching porn, developing some sexual fantasies, etc. It is almost like being drugged.

I'm sure I'm going to try some sexual experience-altering drug/preparation, be it aphrodisiacs or anything else. I am curious about the potential results.

[demografx]

... the fact, that the so-called POIS may be...

JRD, the phrase, "so-called POIS" has NO PLACE in.......a POIS Forum.
Thanks,
demo

[sameer7777]

I think we should forget about Dmitry (oh, as soon I wrote this name, I forgot it  ), and try to understand why it worked !
And if possible, get more information about the suffers who got "cured" with that.

The cognitive effect is proved. I talked about it with my doctor who told me :
-It was a real double(Xanthinol+Nicotinate) effect vasodilator.
-The nicotinate is found in cigarettes and really help to focus on things (one of the only benefit to smoke...never did that) since it helps more glucose and O2 coming into the brain cells.
-Never take a vasodilator if you get heart disorder/operation
-Intramuscular Injections are more efficient than the digestive way and reaches a maximum 100 minutes after injection (it is true what we heard so)


I think that IF XN works, then the POIS  is for a part :
 only an over cerebral vessels constriction which lasts from the O (arousal for some) until some time  (the POIS recovery).

It would mean that our brain takes a very long time to relax the constricted cerebral vessels. Thus, our brain gets less (perhaps a very small difference) O2 and glucose than before. With the time, the vessels get relaxed and we go back to the normal with O2 and glucose income

My theory would be for the "cognitive" symptoms :
brain fog/memory loss/ ability to focus       +         ears blowing/locked nose and throat/feeling the heartbeat in the brain (pressure due to constricted vessels), and so on...

I am 90% cognitive POIS, I had NO semen allergy , nor positive immune reaction tests due to the O. That is why I build up my own theory (based on the potential XN) which could fit into my case (cognitive) !

i support your theory , what is colon inflation in your signature !!!!!

[demografx]

I think we should forget about Dmitry (oh, as soon I wrote this name, I forgot it  ), and try to understand why it worked !
And if possible, get more information about the suffers who got "cured" with that.

The cognitive effect is proved. I talked about it with my doctor who told me :
-It was a real double(Xanthinol+Nicotinate) effect vasodilator.
-The nicotinate is found in cigarettes and really help to focus on things (one of the only benefit to smoke...never did that) since it helps more glucose and O2 coming into the brain cells.
-Never take a vasodilator if you get heart disorder/operation
-Intramuscular Injections are more efficient than the digestive way and reaches a maximum 100 minutes after injection (it is true what we heard so)


I think that IF XN works, then the POIS  is for a part :
 only an over cerebral vessels constriction which lasts from the O (arousal for some) until some time  (the POIS recovery).

It would mean that our brain takes a very long time to relax the constricted cerebral vessels. Thus, our brain gets less (perhaps a very small difference) O2 and glucose than before. With the time, the vessels get relaxed and we go back to the normal with O2 and glucose income

My theory would be for the "cognitive" symptoms :
brain fog/memory loss/ ability to focus       +         ears blowing/locked nose and throat/feeling the heartbeat in the brain (pressure due to constricted vessels), and so on...

I am 90% cognitive POIS, I had NO semen allergy , nor positive immune reaction tests due to the O. That is why I build up my own theory (based on the potential XN) which could fit into my case (cognitive) !

Habibou,

Excellent reporting!

demo

[sameer7777]

Very interesting Demo, it seems to be a central finding !  thank you It seems to explain a lot more, and sounds very familiar for me at least.. The pois episode, intense long lasting warmth through the whole body, sweating. I noticed I ask everybody if the room is warm for them, just to check if I am not an exception there.

french article translated" niacin is a main factor in the sexual hormones production, blood stream, energy production AND histamine release"

"Some people cant support very well histamine release/absorption and it implies : Headaches, skin troubles, heart palpitations, dizziness, intense warmth feeling, digestive troubles (nausea, colon disorders, stomach.
The symptoms disappear alone in some hours after the histamine absorption."

Histamine could explain the "fake allergic reaction feeling" and the huge amount of it could explain why a simply "antihistamine" never worked for us.
Perhaps the Niacin by injections could prevent the wrong reaction by regulating the Histamine release during arousal and the O.

It would be good to have medical view on this Niacin findings and the possible link with our POIS. I hope Dr Waldinger would have a look on it !

what is cerebral vessel inflamation???
my back of neck really hurts when i am performing , my shoulders neck and back of head get stiff , even going down to from neck to back bone ....
does cerebral vessel inflamation mean narrow of blood vessels of these my pain area , is thats right i think you are 100% right ............

one more thing i must tell when ever i take injections of b complex injections i feel better thats the only thing , but it has vitamin b1 b6 12 .......
i feel good only taking it by injections .... other orally i dont think it works .....
it has thiamine 100 mg
pyredoxine 100mg
Cyanocobalamin 1000mcg

i dont know it helps me relesase stiffness and to get energy ?

so kindly pls answer my questions

[b_jim]

I have some flu-like symptoms today    I took only 80mg of vitamin B3 and I didn't do the washing technique. But, the important thing may be I have eaten a lot of carbs last days...

Nobody find a difference when eating a lot/no carbohydrates ? "The pois episode, intense long lasting warmth through the whole body, sweating." Exactly this symptom I felt all this day. I really don't understand what is the link with glucose but this is the key factor. Next time I should test lot of carbs + 250 mg of niacin. Niacin may have an effect on insulin or ftg factor.

Sameer : use the brand you find in your country. You should take about 100 to 200mg to test. The washing technique is a strategy to eliminate the semen as soon as possible to avoid the contact with skin. Not sure it makes a difference.

[sameer7777]

gnc people giving me 250 mg of niacin
should i take it ..... its a normal tab its not no flush !!
what do u say ?

[Daveman]

gnc people giving me 250 mg of niacin
should i take it ..... its a normal tab its not no flush !!
what do u say ?

Start with half first (125mg).  Wait until you have passed at least a week from your last orgasm, and then take it one hour before orgasm.

About 15 to 20 minutes after taking it you will feel the skin burning like sunburn, but don't worry, it doesn't last too long, maybe 15 min to 1/2 hour.

Then you will feel fairy normal, perhpas a little "pumped". Have the orgasm, and you should feel quite a bit better in the morning than usual.

It may not cure you of everything becasue you have at least diabetes THAT YOU SHOULD treat. Even 180 blood-sugar is HIGH. Another reason you feel like crap. And probably depression too.

Get yourself fixed up plzzzzzzzz!

[Daveman]

BTW, I don't know if there re conraindications in taking niacin with diabetes!! So check it out.

Becasue  you have diabetes!

[sameer7777]

Thanks alot for the reply
But about my diabetes I am not taking any meds yet
Cause I am better than on meds
180 was random
I hope you know uptil 160 is normal
I am taking b complex tabs which already have niacin 50 mg
Pls daveman read my post about b complex injections in which b1 b6 b12 always helped ne
Thanks again

[sameer7777]

Mr daveman how can we know who's online so I can chat

[Observer]

I want to tell something that happened several weeks ago;

I continue to take 200 mg of flush-type niacin before orgasm, and this is blocking my POIS. But i developed mild symptoms after taking the same niacin brand, and this was because i left the bottle open during several hours. After taking niacin from that bottle i had some mild POIS symptoms, they do not lasted more than 2 days, but it made me feel again this symptoms. 

[sameer7777]

oh okay !! i could not find niaicn here .........

[Jon]

Hey guys, I just had a thought..

We feel that niacin is helping us because we are short on certain neurotransmitters and other chemicals after sex and such, but is it possible that if taken before sex it would help anyone no matter what level they are at? In other words if a person without POIS took niacin would their levels be even higher than normal? If so it would be as an an enhancer rather than fixing something in the actual POIS cycle.

Thoughts?

[Daveman]

Could be. B3 is used in energy drinks, so it is a booster.

Hopefully deeper investigations will begin. I'm sure it could lead to something very useful for POIS.

[Jon]

Hmm.. Very interesting. Yes, I think it will indeed lead to something. I think I will try niacin and an antihistamine together. I'll keep everyone updated.