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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #435 on: February 08, 2012, 06:49:21 AM »
astinenza? No ,non fa per me.. c'ho provato per anni ma non sono mai riuscito .

I translated with Google (Italian). You say,
"abstinence, no not for me, I've tried that for years and haven't been successful".

I agree.

Omen, you are lucky that you only suffer the one day when you have orgasm in the morning. I have tried, and it's worse for me.
I guess we are not all the same. When I do it at night, I sleep the worst hours, those first ones, and so it's like one day less of POIS
(well 8 hrs anyways). When I do it in the morning, I suffer those worst hours, but STILL have 5 days of POIS.

Until I found niacin. Now I can have sex in the morning and hardly suffer at all. The next day it's almost all gone.

And it's not like niacin is really a drug, it's a vitamin. Iboprofen or aspirin is worse for you, especially if you ONLY take it before orgasm and not regularly.

vetrofragile79, read up on niacin, for most, 100mg 30 minutes to 1 hr before orgasm and it protects you against a lot of the worst POIS symptoms

It doesn't work for everybody, but for most it's almost a miracle.

If you are lucky enough like Omen, to not to have to use anything, then all the better, but there are few of us in that boat.

I will try to help with translation vetro, or hopefully others here can. Thanks and welcome.

« Last Edit: February 08, 2012, 06:51:49 AM by Daveman »
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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #436 on: February 08, 2012, 07:43:43 AM »
I'm sorry  ,maybe i had paste the italian varsion of translation from google translator.. i have to improve my english :)

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #437 on: February 09, 2012, 06:37:35 AM »
Thank u for reply, how long flush going on? i'm little bit scared from a kind of video on youtube ...a man scratching a lot for long time.. :) i'm little bit axiogen :) 
Which way to don't build a niacin resistance?

ps: take niacin 3hrs ago half stomach and no flush.. :S

The flush feels like a mild sunburn, and lasts at most 30 minutes more like 20 min. You can feel the blood pumping in the face and scalp, but it is quite tolerable. Knowing that it is a normal effect and that it will go away soon, helps.

The idea is to take just enough to produce the flush. If you take twice the amount, the flush could last longer and be more uncomfortable. So it's good to do like you and try small amounts working up to the right amount for you.

Food, and I think alcohol before taking the niacin definitely reduces it's effectivity. As I mentioned, I'm not sure how much you would have to take on a half full stomach.

Perhaps the worst part of taking niacin is having to wait 4 to 6 hours after food to take it. It seems that niacin works better earlier in the day too. I took it once at 11:00 AM, after breakfast at 8:00 AM and got a GOOD flush with 100 mg.
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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #438 on: February 09, 2012, 03:15:52 PM »
has anyone tried inositol Hexanicotinate its also sold as niacin but its an esterefied form , sadly this is the only form of niacin i've found in my country

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #439 on: February 10, 2012, 09:58:09 PM »
I took 90 mg at 3 in the morning on an empty stomach, small flush .. pois present at 90%: (
It 'just 10 mg from 100 mg that had taken effect, it is strange that it does not work

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #440 on: February 12, 2012, 02:07:51 PM »
Its not the 10 mg that nakes the difference but its the time..u were awake at 3 that triggered pois...according to what I am reserching on myself and what I have read on the net...the anxiety attack which I get after orgasm is because of the adrenalin...when one orgasms the adrenal spikes when one exercises especially cardio adrenal spikes..adrenal is bad for people with anxiety beacause it interferes withthe chemicals in ur head...I think this causes the brain fog that is pois...

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #441 on: February 12, 2012, 04:39:36 PM »
I took 90 mg at 3 in the morning on an empty stomach, small flush .. pois present at 90%: (
It 'just 10 mg from 100 mg that had taken effect, it is strange that it does not work

Describe the flush? Did you feel the face sort of burning like sunburn, or just light tingling of the skin?

When I have light flush, (just tingling skin), I have about 60% or 70% reduction. If I have full flush with sunburn sensation and hot face, I get 95% reduction.

Last night I took 100mg and didn't feel any flush. I had fasted (not food for 5 hrs before) but we had a couple of tequila shooters just a little before. So alcohol also affects the affectivity of niacin. I use capsules with powdered niacin inside, so about 25 min after taking the 100 and when I was sure the 100 wasn't going to flush,  I took 50mg more powder right on the tongue. Started to feel a little tingle within 5 min, so took 25mg more and got the flush.

And I am only about 5% POIS today.

So try that. If after about 20 min you don't feel flush, take 50 more. If that doesn't work take 50 more. That should do it.

If you receive a good flush, but still have strong POIS, then maybe niacin just isn't for you.

One of my biggest goals right now is to discover why niacin works AND WHY IT DOESN'T. The clue to POIS is there, and besides we need everybody to have a solution.

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #442 on: February 12, 2012, 06:18:58 PM »
little tingling, no strong red. the only difference is that after 8-9 hours and I slept.
Today I took 90 g reduced the dots by 60%.
as a precision balance used? mine is not very precise.

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #443 on: February 13, 2012, 11:59:27 AM »
little tingling, no strong red. the only difference is that after 8-9 hours and I slept.
Today I took 90 g reduced the dots by 60%.
as a precision balance used? mine is not very precise.

What do you mean "reduced the dots".

My weights in grams are all estimates. I have 100 mg capsule that can be opened and so for less than 100mg I open it and take 50% for 50mg. etc.

What form does your niacin come in?

So with 90 mg, you are what I call "borderline" flush. That usually gives me partial relief. With another 20 or 30 mg you should get a good flush, but still not "overwhelming". It is "obvious" but acceptable. Will last about 20 minutes and then starts to subside. Quite acceptable. I even like it. Maybe because I know I will be protected and POIS free!

WITHOUT RESEARCH THERE WILL BE NO CURE!
Sessions 5 to 9 days, mostly Flu-like, joints, digestion problems, light cognitive.
Niacin has changed my lif though, now 1 day MAX.
Somewhere in this interaction with Niacin is the answer!

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #444 on: February 13, 2012, 06:30:28 PM »


So with 90 mg, you are what I call "borderline" flush. That usually gives me partial relief.

That´s right in my case, Daveman.

I have been using the niacin for 5 months and i can agree with this.

When i get a flush and wait 10-20 min after it fades away ---> No POIS.
When i get a good flush and have an O. on the middle of the flush----> Significative POIS!!
When i get a "borderline" flush ---> No POIS afterwards, but i could feel a very very little weird symptoms on 2nd, 3rd day(5-10% POIS?)

When i do not get the flush ---> I do not have POIS immediately after, but it seems that the next two days i could experience some brain fog. I have felt this way several times. Sometimes i have had another flushed orgasm, that has got rid my previous symptoms, but if i can´t(due to i need to take more niacin to get the flush because my body has got used to it), that symptoms will not dissappear.

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #445 on: February 13, 2012, 11:11:57 PM »
Is there any connection of pois and sedentary life?

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #446 on: February 14, 2012, 05:45:11 AM »
Is there any connection of pois and sedentary life?

I found that making exercise helped my POIS. In fact, this one and sleeping more were the only two methods i used against POIS before discovering the forum.

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #447 on: February 14, 2012, 10:15:35 AM »
Yes sleeping even helps me...and recently I have noticed that walking helps me too...let's see where does this experiment go...I keep on experimenting ways to come out of pois very often...

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #448 on: February 20, 2012, 08:05:59 AM »
which kind of precision balance have u?

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #449 on: February 20, 2012, 08:15:07 AM »
I have the same experience as observer. 10-20 mins after flush gives the niacin the maximum effect for me too. Mid-flush gives some relief but not much.

Also, after I started exercising, my POIS has gotten better. My thinking was that my physical symptoms were mainly in the thighs, lower back and legs so I started focusing my weight training in the gym on those areas so make them stronger. Combine that with niacin and life with POIS is not that bad for me anymore. Also just eating healthy and staying fit in general has helped me a lot so far.

I'm taking 500mg of niacin now and sometimes I have to take 8-900mg to get the flush. For me it seems like my body is getting used to it as I need more and more to get the flush, but I can't say that for certain. I'm only taking it once or twice a week.