Testosterone

[demografx]

I think i found MY own “cure”!
Why am i laughing? See #4 below!

• On Day Zero (the sometimes-partial-day when POIS onset occurs)

1. Increase my 24/7/365/day TRT dose
    Assumption: testosterone drops/POIS
2. If Day Zero is @ night use CPAP sleep apnea device pictured above
3. Take Tylenol PM as needed, keeping in mind that excessive use landed me in the ER before!
4. Sleep it off or rest in bed all of Day Zero (this action alone feels nearly POIS-free)

• Wake up Day 1 nearly POIS-free!

I’m retired so i can get away with this! But I also did this on this most recent weekend on SATURDAY. Some of you could theoretically do this 1) if POIS starts on a weekend and 2) this TRT-for-POIS treatment works for you (big IF!)  like mine does. And I have worked closely with an endocrinologist/M.D. for the last 11 years.

[demografx]

I’m experimenting with Cialis as an adjunct to my TRT treatment for POIS.

Do you believe…that [POIS] could have something to do with the refractory period…

Always have.

In my case, I believe refractory sluggishness (a slow semen replenishment rate)  is my POIS culprit. I’m hoping to speed up the refractory process - - along with my TRT treatment.

But - - as Quantum indicates - - let’s wait a few months before declaring success.

From Google:
“One 2017 meta-analysis found that taking PDE5 inhibitors like Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra boosted the number of motile sperm as well as normally shaped sperm.”

I’m trying to find out whether or not “sperm” might also include “semen” in the above meta-analysis. TRT destroyed my sperm count (down to 0.00!!)

I think I see improvement, perhaps my refractory sluggishness - - my POIS theory since 2007 - -  is speeding up?

“Speeding up” = semen replenishment
rate increases.

I’m in the very early stages of Quantum’s 90-day suggestion of evaluating Cialis for POIS treatment and I might be experiencing a  “placebo effect”

Before Quantum puts a method in his chart, he needs at least one good referenced case, with solid information.

If Cialis does indeed boost semen, and I continue to have better POIS results, I think that this partially corroborates my “refractory sluggishness = POIS” theory - -  from my 2007 thinking. Purely intuitive, no science.

[Limejuice]

Good luck with this idea!  And have fun with the testing process!

[demografx]

Good luck with this idea!  And have fun with the [Cialis] testing process!

Thanks, Limejuice!

[Muon]

Have you been checked for a varicocele demo?

[demografx]

Good luck with this idea!  And have fun with the [Cialis] testing process!

Thanks, Limejuice!

POISed this afternoon:

• Took 10mg Cialis. Theory: increases semen, speeding up the POIS-sluggish refractory process

• Doubled normal TRT dose. Theory: when POIS starts, testosterone drops. This reverses the drop.

• Napped. Always helps restore vitality

So far: it’s definitely an improvement!

[demografx]

Good luck with this idea!  And have fun with the [Cialis] testing process!

Thanks, Limejuice!

POISed this afternoon:
• Took 10mg Cialis. Theory: increases semen, speeding up the POIS-sluggish refractory process
• Doubled normal TRT dose. Theory: when POIS starts, testosterone drops. This reverses the drop.
• Napped. Always helps restore vitality

So far: it’s definitely an improvement!

It’s the-day-after-POIS-attack and I feel
VERY good. Is it the Cialis? Time will tell!

[demografx]

Good luck with this idea!  And have fun with the [Cialis] testing process!

Thanks, Limejuice!

POISed this afternoon:
• Took 10mg Cialis. Theory: increases semen, speeding up the POIS-sluggish refractory process
• Doubled normal TRT dose. Theory: when POIS starts, testosterone drops. This reverses the drop.
• Napped. Always helps restore vitality

So far: it’s definitely an improvement!

It’s the-day-after-POIS-attack and I feel
VERY good. Is it the Cialis? Time will tell!

I just noticed this in
Quantum’s POIS Types Chart:

hi Quantum,
I have been eating a lot of eggs every morning regularly for over a year now to get more protein into my body. As for tadalafil [Cialis] a doctor told me to try it and  prescribed it to me two months ago and i would say that it has reduced my pois by 60-70% (mostly on my brain fog ,concentration and social anxiety) as for my physical symptoms i feel it reduces them by around 50%.

[Limejuice]

Glad it’s still working! Almost halfway through the 3 week rule. Please keep us posted!

[demografx]

Glad it’s still working! Almost halfway through the 3 week rule. Please keep us posted!

Thanks, LJ!

[demografx]

Good luck with this idea!  And have fun with the [Cialis] testing process!

Thanks, Limejuice!

POISed this afternoon:
• Took 10mg Cialis. Theory: increases semen, speeding up the POIS-sluggish refractory process
• Doubled normal TRT dose. Theory: when POIS starts, testosterone drops. This reverses the drop.
• Napped. Always helps restore vitality

So far: it’s definitely an improvement!

It’s the-day-after-POIS-attack and I feel
VERY good. Is it the Cialis? Time will tell!

This morning, POISed, I repeated these steps (• above) and the results are…good!

[Limejuice]

Will this supplement the patches now?

[demografx]

Will this supplement the patches now?

Yes, if it continues to work.

[Didi]

Does it work with thestosterone injections?

[demografx]

Good luck with this idea!  And have fun with the [Cialis] testing process!

Thanks, Limejuice!

POISed this afternoon:
• Took 10mg Cialis. Theory: increases semen, speeding up the POIS-sluggish refractory process
• Doubled normal TRT dose. Theory: when POIS starts, testosterone drops. This reverses the drop.
• Napped. Always helps restore vitality

So far: it’s definitely an improvement!

It’s the-day-after-POIS-attack and I feel
VERY good. Is it the Cialis? Time will tell!

This morning, POISed, I repeated these steps (• above) and the results are…good!

Once again, good results.

Since 2007 (when this Forum began as POIS/NSF),  I hypothesized that
my POIS is somehow related to a
sluggish refractory system

At my POIS onset, the new improvement I see might come from increasing semen volume & motility

INFERTILITY ALERT: as a result of my
TRT-for-POIS treatment, my sperm count went to 0.00! So if you’re planning a family, decide wisely. With a doctor. I prefer an endocrinologist.

[demografx]

After 15 years’ experimentation, this (above) is what I do for my POIS treatment. Effectiveness for me: sometimes, nearly completely POIS-free. Some episodes are “better” than others.

Major disadvantage: POIS Day Zero (the first day when POIS actually onsets)
is - - often but not always - - spent resting and/or in bed. I use Tylenol PM to force more sleep.

CPAP machine (last image above) aids oxygenation.

I am still working on
• timing,
• dosages, and
• prior abstinence required
in conjunction with the combination pictured above

INFERTILITY ALERT: as a result of my
Testosterone-for-POIS treatment, my sperm count went to 0.00!

So if you’re planning a family (I already had children before my testosterone-induced sperm loss) decide wisely. With a doctor. I prefer an endocrinologist.

[Lihua]

hello Demografx, Have you ever tried to stop using testosterone and see if you have any symptoms? Testosterone can affect the urinary system and cure prostatitis

[demografx]

hello Demografx, Have you ever tried to stop using testosterone and see if you have any symptoms? Testosterone can affect the urinary system and cure prostatitis

No.

[demografx]

Day Zero sleep/rest & Infertility Alert edits:









After 15 years’ experimentation, this (above) is what I do for my POIS treatment. Effectiveness for me: sometimes, nearly completely POIS-free. Some episodes are “better” than others.

Major disadvantage: POIS Day Zero (the first day when POIS actually onsets)
is - - often but not always - - spent resting and/or in bed. I use Tylenol PM to force more sleep.

CPAP machine (last image above) aids oxygenation.

I am still working on
• timing,
• dosages, and
• prior abstinence required
in conjunction with the combination pictured above

INFERTILITY ALERT: as a result of my
Testosterone-for-POIS treatment, my sperm count went to 0.00!

So if you’re planning a family (I already had children before my testosterone-induced sperm loss) decide wisely. With a doctor. I prefer an endocrinologist.

[demografx]

Have you been checked for a varicocele demo?

Long ago. Seemed irrelevant.