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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #600 on: September 25, 2020, 03:40:40 PM »
Sounds like TRT and melatonin cooperating.

Quote from: demografx on September 25, 2020, 03:25:12 PM
Muon, way back when I started my Magical TRT Mystery Tour, I had an MRI of the brain ordered by my endocrinologist, resulting in a find of Empty Sella Syndrome. Not sure if/where to post...
https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/empty-sella-syndrome/#general-discussion

That's funny I just read about that syndrome today when I were looking for a pituitary gland dysfunction test panel (that area tend to be triggered often in my case but mostly without pain and it can react to POIS/arousal, if I have a headache it's almost always in that or close to that spot). Also I heard my brother speak about his suspicion of POIS inducing pressure changes in CSF. You got tons of symptoms if you list them side by side. The POIScenter adventures continues...
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #601 on: September 25, 2020, 03:42:05 PM »
After reading your posts I decided to play this (right now!) ;D ;D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cv9LF5r07cE
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TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #602 on: September 25, 2020, 03:48:35 PM »
Quote from: Muon on September 25, 2020, 02:59:35 PM
Huh? I thought you already used it to force sleep during mid-day, so you always forced sleep during the evening/night and slept through the night?
You’re right, I almost forgot...it’s only been the last 2-3X that I had difficulty. My above explanation I think explains why/why not daytime works.
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TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #603 on: September 25, 2020, 05:32:09 PM »
Quote from: Muon on September 25, 2020, 02:59:35 PM
Huh? I thought you already used [Benadryl] to force sleep during mid-day, so you always forced sleep during the evening/night and slept through the night?
Quote from: demografx on September 25, 2020, 03:42:05 PM
After reading your posts I decided to play this (right now!) ;D ;D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cv9LF5r07cE
It’s now 3:30pm, 3 hours after taking 75mg Benadryl, and 3 hours after taking 8mg TRT - 3-4X my normal TRT dose.

No extended sleep but

• lots of rest (60-80% as good as sleep?)
and
• brief quick flashes of in-out sleep (very brief but DEEP)

Feeling very refreshed!

No POIS symptoms for now.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2020, 05:38:15 PM by demografx »
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #604 on: September 25, 2020, 06:09:44 PM »
And now - - to fully wake up - - it’s time to imbibe one of my favorite drinks...

« Last Edit: September 25, 2020, 06:18:37 PM by demografx »
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #605 on: September 26, 2020, 02:02:26 AM »
Quote from: demografx on September 25, 2020, 05:32:09 PM

...It’s now 3:30pm, 3 hours after taking 75mg Benadryl...


BIG MISTAKE! 75mg was way too much! Dopey/groggy since 3:30pm! 1t’s 12:01 now (midnight)...
Good Night!!

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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #606 on: September 26, 2020, 06:32:15 AM »
Quote from: demografx on September 25, 2020, 03:25:12 PM
Muon, way back when I started my Magical TRT Mystery Tour, I had an MRI of the brain ordered by my endocrinologist, resulting in a find of Empy Sella Syndrome. Not sure if/where to post...
https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/empty-sella-syndrome/#general-discussion
If you had the empty sella syndrome for a long period of time maybe chronically lower pituitary hormones made some body systems work bad resulting in POIS.
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #607 on: September 26, 2020, 07:46:41 AM »
Quote from: demografx on September 25, 2020, 06:09:44 PM
And now - - to fully wake up - - it’s time to imbibe one of my favorite drinks...


:D If I drink this one I don't sleep during one month !
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #608 on: September 26, 2020, 08:48:35 AM »
Quote from: demografx on September 25, 2020, 03:25:12 PM
Not sure if/where to post...

Very simple I've said this before. Make your own case report/personal thread, like Demografx' case/personal thread. Just dump info into it bit by bit. You don't have to organize it properly from the start. Add a bit of info and organize it step by step if you have time and energy to do so.

I see that Quantum has put that section ('Personal POIS Summaries and Histories') under POIS Life Style ---> Lifestyle diary. I would like to see that cut out and have its own category and being placed under POIS Lifestyle but it may be fine as it is, problem is that it isn't being used properly. Perhaps it's not clear to people.

Anyway you can create your own personal thread in there. Make sure you reserve some posts if you need to expand and you may link that thread to your signature.

If you have a seperate category for this then you have only threads like these:

Name A' case
Name B' case
Name C' case
etc.
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #609 on: September 26, 2020, 12:51:08 PM »
Quote from: b_jim on September 26, 2020, 07:46:41 AM
Quote from: demografx on September 25, 2020, 06:09:44 PM
And now - - to fully wake up - - it’s time to imbibe one of my favorite drinks...


:D If I drink this one I don't sleep during one month !

;D ;D ;D
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #610 on: September 26, 2020, 12:57:07 PM »
Quote from: Journey on September 26, 2020, 06:32:15 AM
Quote from: demografx on September 25, 2020, 03:25:12 PM
Muon, way back when I started my Magical TRT Mystery Tour, I had an MRI of the brain ordered by my endocrinologist, resulting in a find of Empy Sella Syndrome. Not sure if/where to post...
https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/empty-sella-syndrome/#general-discussion
If you had the empty sella syndrome for a long period of time maybe chronically lower pituitary hormones made some body systems work bad resulting in POIS.
Thanks, Journey!
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #611 on: October 20, 2020, 02:39:51 PM »



My POIS treatment is no longer available, due to a “shortage”. Endocrinologist asked me if I wanted to try the injection or gel route. I declined. After 10 years, I’m hoping my body has been “trained” somewhat, so I’m just going to tough it out with...nothing. Wish me luck.
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #612 on: October 21, 2020, 12:40:53 AM »
Quote from: demografx on October 20, 2020, 02:39:51 PM



My POIS treatment is no longer available, due to a “shortage”. Endocrinologist asked me if I wanted to try the injection or gel route. I declined. After 10 years, I’m hoping my body has been “trained” somewhat, so I’m just going to tough it out with...nothing. Wish me luck.

Interesting experiment. Good Luck
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #613 on: October 21, 2020, 02:28:57 PM »


My new POIS treatment!
(Actually it’s my old treatment minus the TRT)

“Extra” sleep works for me and Benadryl does the job in my case.

Don’t worry, Quantum, I’ll follow the 3-week rule! ;D ;D
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #614 on: October 21, 2020, 07:18:25 PM »
Quote from: certainlypois2 on October 21, 2020, 12:40:53 AM

Interesting experiment. Good Luck


Thanks, CP2!
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #615 on: October 22, 2020, 06:22:02 AM »
 I could not find a topic about Benadryl. But I also ordered it. It is not available in The Netherlands, so it has to be shipped. How do you use Benadryl? Do you take before or after O.
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #616 on: October 22, 2020, 07:35:19 AM »
This one should have less side effects than benadryl Demo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupatadine

It also is anti-PAF and inhibits TNF-alpha from mast cells. Not sure if it is available in the USA.
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #617 on: October 22, 2020, 02:02:16 PM »
Thanks, Muon!
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #618 on: October 22, 2020, 02:08:30 PM »
Quote from: Vandemolen on October 22, 2020, 06:22:02 AM
I could not find a topic about Benadryl. But I also ordered it. It is not available in The Netherlands, so it has to be shipped. How do you use Benadryl? Do you take before or after O.
Van, when my POIS begins, I take Benadryl only to FORCE EXTRA SLEEP. I feel the more that I can sleep (DAYTIME as well as night), the faster my POIS symptoms are healed. If you read through my last posts here about Benadryl in this thread, you will better see what I mean.
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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #619 on: October 22, 2020, 02:59:35 PM »
Quote from: demografx on October 21, 2020, 02:28:57 PM


My new POIS treatment!
(Actually it’s my old treatment minus the TRT)

“Extra” sleep works for me and Benadryl does the job in my case.

Don’t worry, Quantum, I’ll follow the 3-week rule! ;D ;D

FIRST TRIAL RESULT
Today is Day 2 (POIS begins on “Day Zero”) and I feel as good as I had been before, but WITHOUT TRT! Maybe my body/mind has been “trained” after 10 years of 365 days/year TRT usage?

Or is it a placebo effect?

Time will tell :)

Meanwhile...
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