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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #675 on: December 22, 2020, 07:16:13 PM »
Would love to go down this route but my doctor said let's start from scratch, let's put you on anti depressants lol ffs round and round the garden like a teddy bear

Typical NHS doctors I assume, don't bother waste your time they are useless, either find a good specialist on the NHS or a good private specialist who knows about the areas related to POIS. But really GPS don't know anything and love to hand out antidepressants for everything like they are candy. Before sertraline I mainly just had issues in POIS, after sertraline usage I had chronic issues from food reactions to chronic brain fog, speech problems etc

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #676 on: December 25, 2020, 07:01:18 PM »


I have been singing Benadryl’s praises for a long time to induce FORCED DAYTIME SLEEP, which miraculously lets me sleep through some of the worst initial POIS symptoms.

But you should be aware of some risks, e.g.,
Benadryl’s increased dementia risk
in this Harvard Medical School article:

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/common-anticholinergic-drugs-like-benadryl-linked-increased-dementia-risk-201501287667


After years of use/abuse, I’m now trying to
GET OFF BENADRYL.

Bad cognitive side effects...getting worse!
« Last Edit: December 25, 2020, 07:08:37 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #677 on: December 25, 2020, 07:36:42 PM »
Cross-posted from
Vasodilatory for pois related tiny vessels spasm
https://tinyurl.com/ybqaktqu


Testosterone can increase dopamine via Nitric Oxide. Low T is a risk factor for endothelial dysfunction...

« Last Edit: December 25, 2020, 07:42:25 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #678 on: December 26, 2020, 05:58:59 PM »

After years of use/abuse, I’m now trying to
GET OFF BENADRYL.

Bad cognitive side effects...getting worse!

Today is POIS Day Zero (POIS onset), and I didn’t take my usual dose of Benadryl to knock myself out to avoid experiencing early POIS symptoms. I simply was able to go back to sleep, wake up late, then
took 8mg TRT (high experimental dose) to counter early-POIS testosterone drop.

So far, so good! :)
« Last Edit: December 26, 2020, 11:14:17 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #679 on: January 08, 2021, 04:20:15 PM »
Today is POIS Day Zero (POIS onset), and I didn’t take my usual dose of Benadryl to knock myself out to avoid experiencing early POIS symptoms. I simply
took 8mg TRT (high experimental dose testosterone patches) to counter early-POIS testosterone drop.

Instead of Benadryl I took 1,000mg of:


So far, so good! :)

This is NOT my endorsement or recommendation for anyone else with POIS to try! A good POIS treatment is between you and a trusted doctor. My preferred treatment can be unacceptably risky for many POISers.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2021, 04:22:23 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #680 on: January 09, 2021, 02:49:50 AM »

Today is POIS Day Zero (POIS onset), and I didn’t take my usual dose of Benadryl to knock myself out to avoid experiencing early POIS symptoms. I simply
took 8mg TRT (high experimental dose testosterone patches) to counter early-POIS testosterone drop.

Instead of Benadryl I took 1,000mg of:


So far, so good! :)

This is NOT my endorsement or recommendation for anyone else with POIS to try! A good POIS treatment is between you and a trusted doctor. My preferred treatment can be unacceptably risky for many POISers.
Extra daytime SLEEP is still a great aid in POIS-healing for me. And Extra Strength Tylenol helped to facilitate that today. Better than Benadryl: Tylenol didn’t make me groggy!
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #681 on: January 09, 2021, 08:14:28 PM »

Today is POIS Day Zero (POIS onset), and I didn’t take my usual dose of Benadryl to knock myself out to avoid experiencing early POIS symptoms. I simply
took 8mg TRT (high experimental dose testosterone patches) to counter early-POIS testosterone drop.

Instead of Benadryl I took 1,000mg of:


So far, so good! :)

This is NOT my endorsement or recommendation for anyone else with POIS to try! A good POIS treatment is between you and a trusted doctor. My preferred treatment can be unacceptably risky for many POISers.
Extra daytime SLEEP is still a great aid in POIS-healing for me. And Extra Strength Tylenol helped to facilitate that today. Better than Benadryl: Tylenol didn’t make me groggy!

what is the sleeping aid in tylenol

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #682 on: January 09, 2021, 09:12:06 PM »
No idea, CP2. But I think if there’s no pain to be treated, Tylenol then works that way. At least it does for me.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #683 on: January 09, 2021, 09:20:04 PM »
CP2, I googled it and saw this:

“Does Extra Strength Tylenol help you sleep?”

TYLENOL® PM Extra Strength Liquid is a pain reliever and sleep aid that helps you fall asleep fast for a better night's sleep. Provides 1,000 mg of acetaminophen & 50 mg of diphenhydramine HCI.

I noticed there’s diphenhydramine  in this product, which is the main ingredient in  Benadryl. I don’t take the PM product, so I am only getting the acetaminophen, which I assume has some sleep-aid benefit. For me. Again, it works that way for me, but others might not have the same result as mine.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2021, 09:30:31 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #684 on: January 10, 2021, 03:21:47 PM »
CP2, from a little more of my googling:

“Acetaminophen helps to reduce fever and/or mild to moderate pain (such as headache, backache, aches/pains due to muscle strain, cold, or flu). The antihistamine in this product may cause drowsiness, and therefore it can also be used as a nighttime sleep aid.”

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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #685 on: January 10, 2021, 03:44:32 PM »
From tuning the brain:
Dynorphin antagonists already exist in the form of acetaminophen and mu-opioid agonists (Sandrini M et al., 2001), but they are hardly panaceas. High doses of acetaminophen raise brain 5-HT levels and inhibit the 5HT2A receptor (Srikiatkhachorn A et al., 1999). Acetaminophen is also a COX-3 antagonist.

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #686 on: January 15, 2021, 11:10:40 PM »
Thanks, Muon
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #687 on: January 19, 2021, 06:53:19 PM »
Cross-posted from Free Flow Discussion
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=426.2325




My physical POIS symptoms are easier to describe than my cognitive POIS symptoms.

My physical symptoms: extreme exhaustion, dry fingertips

My cognitive symptoms:
the first day is usually the worst. My creative juices dry up. Nothing is exciting. I’m depressed, but in a way that’s difficult to describe. My emotions are flat. My decent sense of humor and my memory, concentration and my ability to smile, to appreciate beauty go right out the window. And the surreal symptom that’s most difficult to describe:




Just for clarification: Is this [your set of cognitive POIS symptoms] with or without your TRT usage? :-)


Both. With TRT/daytime sleep aids,  symptoms are drastically reduced. From suffering POIS agony for 4 days pre-TRT, to as little as hours today.

Pre-TRT, POIS symptom intensity was also far greater.

berlin1984, thanks, great question.

This is NOT my endorsement or recommendation for anyone else with POIS to try TRT! A good POIS treatment is between you and a trusted doctor. My preferred treatment can be unacceptably risky for many POISers.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #688 on: January 24, 2021, 04:42:29 PM »


I just saw this on an “impressive” looking
TV ad. Anyone know if this is potentially useful?

I’m sure it’s weak compared to TRT.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2021, 02:35:10 AM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #689 on: January 25, 2021, 12:12:20 PM »


I just saw this on an “impressive” looking
TV ad. Anyone know if this is potentially useful?

This is the ingredient list: (see attachment)
All ingredients were mentioned already on the forum. I would say it's a good combo, but nothing new or magic.
The fenugreek extract method used seems to be optimized "for sexual function and hormones".

I would say this one plus Ashwagandha and eating more protein would be a good try for POISers who are totally new to supplementing. (Don't use it daily, use it maybe as pre-pack and post-pack).

EDIT: For the record, my Fenugreek extract says "seed extract with 50% Saponins"
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