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« #15 : June 30, 2012, 09:01:57 PM »




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« : January 30, 2016, 02:51:18 PM demografx »

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #16 : August 28, 2012, 12:05:41 AM »

Hello, everyone. I do want to mention that if any of you are ever in Massachusetts, United States do not hesitate to contact me. My family operates a restaurant and I would be honored host any of the active people in the forum.

Anyway,

Something strange has happened with my testosterone testing. As many of you know, my symptoms all started with a particular orgasm almost a decade ago. They are very severe, have pulled me out of my family's businesses and school, and can seem both schizophrenic and physically limiting when at it's worst. My testosterone has consistently read in the 400's for the first few years of my POIS, and doctors understandably interpreted this as a normal testosterone level since the level can vary from person to person.

Recently, about 6 months ago, I noticed a big improvement in my symptoms by taking niacin before POIS and Kurtosis' treatment regimen (His regimen at that time) immediately after orgasm. All my symptoms (severe cognitive, neurological, cardiovascular, inflamed/light sensitive eyes, fatigue, muscle weakness) felt 80% better. I was having orgasms once per week (more than I have ever had in my POIS time) and hardly felt any symptoms. I was able to do some testing during this period and the results read over 700 for testosterone.

More recently, the treatments have become less and less effective over time. Whether it was just a matter of tolerance or if taking supplements immediately after orgasm had a negative effect I'm not sure. I have begun to get worse over time. I am still better than I was a while back but the gap isn't very wide.  I had a test just a week or two ago and my testosterone once again read in the 400's.

My testosterone testing:

3/28/11 - 499
7/18/11 - 422
6/14/12 - 730 (When I felt good)
8/13/12 - 486

Testosterone is the only thing I have ever found anything like this with. I don't believe that this is the explanation for my POIS because my problems are so widespread and severe. I do wonder how much of it could be due to low testosterone. Also I wonder of the possibility if my testosterone actually does belong in the 400's and the supplements I started to take just provided a boost and masking effect of my POIS. Then again, it is always possible that the supplements, which could have boosted my testosterone, could have helped with inflammation and drive and mental clarity.

I would love to hear the opinions of the many intelligent people in this forum.

Thanks and I continue to wish you all the best,

Jon.

My cognitive symptoms started suddenly during an orgasm when I was 16. I then developed my POIS and cognitive/physical symptoms became very severe. Had to leave work and school. This year I had 60% success with regimen. Recently the symptoms have gotten worse again. Let's help each other.
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« #17 : August 28, 2012, 11:10:38 AM »

John, out of curiousity, what supplements were you taking to boost test this high?

I have been trying to do this myself over the last week using DIM and Calcium D Glucarate. Ive read many peeps on bodybuilding forums have had good experiences with this combo. Not sure how its worked thus far, I got flu this week and im feeling pretty out of it with all the flu meds.

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« #18 : August 28, 2012, 12:48:23 PM »

Jon, in my case, low testosterone seemed to be the culprit in ALL my POIS symptoms, some of them bizarre (e.g.  strangely painful fingertips).

TRT patches, 10 mg day/365 days/year do the trick for me. After 30+ years severe, agony-filled POIS.

However, I think I lost my sperm count in the process. NOT OK if you're younger and want kids. So check out fertility risks carefully!

ps - Jon, thank your for your very generous invitation to your Massachusetts restaurant!
« : August 28, 2012, 08:41:10 PM demografx »

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #19 : August 28, 2012, 12:52:02 PM »





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« : August 29, 2012, 11:44:10 PM demografx »

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #20 : August 29, 2012, 10:23:20 AM »

Hello, everyone. I do want to mention that if any of you are ever in Massachusetts, United States do not hesitate to contact me. My family operates a restaurant and I would be honored host any of the active people in the forum.

Anyway,

Something strange has happened with my testosterone testing. As many of you know, my symptoms all started with a particular orgasm almost a decade ago. They are very severe, have pulled me out of my family's businesses and school, and can seem both schizophrenic and physically limiting when at it's worst. My testosterone has consistently read in the 400's for the first few years of my POIS, and doctors understandably interpreted this as a normal testosterone level since the level can vary from person to person.

Recently, about 6 months ago, I noticed a big improvement in my symptoms by taking niacin before POIS and Kurtosis' treatment regimen (His regimen at that time) immediately after orgasm. All my symptoms (severe cognitive, neurological, cardiovascular, inflamed/light sensitive eyes, fatigue, muscle weakness) felt 80% better. I was having orgasms once per week (more than I have ever had in my POIS time) and hardly felt any symptoms. I was able to do some testing during this period and the results read over 700 for testosterone.

More recently, the treatments have become less and less effective over time. Whether it was just a matter of tolerance or if taking supplements immediately after orgasm had a negative effect I'm not sure. I have begun to get worse over time. I am still better than I was a while back but the gap isn't very wide.  I had a test just a week or two ago and my testosterone once again read in the 400's.

My testosterone testing:

3/28/11 - 499
7/18/11 - 422
6/14/12 - 730 (When I felt good)
8/13/12 - 486

Testosterone is the only thing I have ever found anything like this with. I don't believe that this is the explanation for my POIS because my problems are so widespread and severe. I do wonder how much of it could be due to low testosterone. Also I wonder of the possibility if my testosterone actually does belong in the 400's and the supplements I started to take just provided a boost and masking effect of my POIS. Then again, it is always possible that the supplements, which could have boosted my testosterone, could have helped with inflammation and drive and mental clarity.

I would love to hear the opinions of the many intelligent people in this forum.

Thanks and I continue to wish you all the best,

Jon.

Interesting, Jon. Tests like these are so important -- that is, tests that allow you to compare levels while you're symptomatic and while you're not. Do you mind if I ask your age? Just curios to see how it matches up to the levels you reported.
I got my testosterone tested last year. I O'd around 9pm the night before the test (administered around 11am the next day). Do you recall how recently you had O'd prior to having the 400-level tests administered? Might be helpful information.

Here are my results (26-year-old, healthy male):
Testosterone (Total, LC/MS/MS):
--Result: 666 ng/dL (normal range 250-1100)

Testosterone (Free):
--Result: 119.0 pg/mL (normal range 35.0-115.0)

Also, I'm heading to Boston in a few days to begin the final year of my grad program. Where is your restaurant located in MA? It would be great to meet up if it's not too far. Feel free to PM me if you don't want the information posted here.

Experienced POIS since 2002.
My symptoms include: brain fog, depression, physical and mental fatigue, memory problems, social anxiety, concentration problems, myalgia, inflammation.
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« #21 : August 29, 2012, 08:05:55 PM »

« : August 29, 2012, 08:29:24 PM demografx »

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #22 : October 09, 2012, 10:36:56 AM »

I just have to say... wow. A few minutes ago I made a lengthy post about curing my moderate to minor POIS by raising my testosterone levels. I raised my levels because of other reasons--atypical gender identity. I was very surprised to read this thread and see that others have stumbled across this solution too.
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« #23 : October 09, 2012, 11:00:48 AM »

I just have to say... wow. A few minutes ago I made a lengthy post about curing my moderate to minor POIS by raising my testosterone levels. I raised my levels because of other reasons--atypical gender identity. I was very surprised to read this thread and see that others have stumbled across this solution too.

Hi guy26! Welcome! :)

It was me who contacted you. I wasn't sure if you would come, so thank you very very much for coming over to share your story! I think that anytime someone has been cured of POIS (via any method), it's important to discuss it. Yes, others, like demografx for example, have been cured or helped with testosterone. But I believe that's okay since each cure case is unique and it is good to hear about them all.

For those who don't know the story, I found guy26 at another forum while researching POIS and noticed a section in one of his posts talking about how he cured his POIS. So I invited him over to talk about it. I didn't know if he would get the invitation or come, but I gave it a shot, and luckily it worked!

Symptoms (mostly cognitive): brain fog/difficulty thinking, lack of motivation, fatigue, trouble finding the right words, racing thoughts, possible OCD, anxiety, social withdrawal, extreme frustration and irritability, general discomfort.

Born in 1989, and symptoms since I was 14.
demografx
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« #24 : October 09, 2012, 12:29:03 PM »

I just have to say... wow. A few minutes ago I made a lengthy post about curing my moderate to minor POIS by raising my testosterone levels. I raised my levels because of other reasons--atypical gender identity. I was very surprised to read this thread and see that others have stumbled across this solution too.

I've been with POIS forums 6 years now and have seen about six (6) successful testosterone treatments in POISers who posted about it.

I recently posted elsewhere on this forum about my 10-year testosterone odyssey.

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #25 : October 15, 2012, 12:39:25 AM »

John, out of curiousity, what supplements were you taking to boost test this high?

I have been trying to do this myself over the last week using DIM and Calcium D Glucarate. Ive read many peeps on bodybuilding forums have had good experiences with this combo. Not sure how its worked thus far, I got flu this week and im feeling pretty out of it with all the flu meds.



Porke, My apologies on the long delay. If I have been logging on here consistently of late. I was taking niacin before orgasm and spiraling, vitamin c, and fish oil afterwards and then every other day. I only took the niacin before orgasm and not on other days.

Hello, everyone. I do want to mention that if any of you are ever in Massachusetts, United States do not hesitate to contact me. My family operates a restaurant and I would be honored host any of the active people in the forum.

Anyway,

Something strange has happened with my testosterone testing. As many of you know, my symptoms all started with a particular orgasm almost a decade ago. They are very severe, have pulled me out of my family's businesses and school, and can seem both schizophrenic and physically limiting when at it's worst. My testosterone has consistently read in the 400's for the first few years of my POIS, and doctors understandably interpreted this as a normal testosterone level since the level can vary from person to person.

Recently, about 6 months ago, I noticed a big improvement in my symptoms by taking niacin before POIS and Kurtosis' treatment regimen (His regimen at that time) immediately after orgasm. All my symptoms (severe cognitive, neurological, cardiovascular, inflamed/light sensitive eyes, fatigue, muscle weakness) felt 80% better. I was having orgasms once per week (more than I have ever had in my POIS time) and hardly felt any symptoms. I was able to do some testing during this period and the results read over 700 for testosterone.

More recently, the treatments have become less and less effective over time. Whether it was just a matter of tolerance or if taking supplements immediately after orgasm had a negative effect I'm not sure. I have begun to get worse over time. I am still better than I was a while back but the gap isn't very wide.  I had a test just a week or two ago and my testosterone once again read in the 400's.

My testosterone testing:

3/28/11 - 499
7/18/11 - 422
6/14/12 - 730 (When I felt good)
8/13/12 - 486

Testosterone is the only thing I have ever found anything like this with. I don't believe that this is the explanation for my POIS because my problems are so widespread and severe. I do wonder how much of it could be due to low testosterone. Also I wonder of the possibility if my testosterone actually does belong in the 400's and the supplements I started to take just provided a boost and masking effect of my POIS. Then again, it is always possible that the supplements, which could have boosted my testosterone, could have helped with inflammation and drive and mental clarity.

I would love to hear the opinions of the many intelligent people in this forum.

Thanks and I continue to wish you all the best,

Jon.

Interesting, Jon. Tests like these are so important -- that is, tests that allow you to compare levels while you're symptomatic and while you're not. Do you mind if I ask your age? Just curios to see how it matches up to the levels you reported.
I got my testosterone tested last year. I O'd around 9pm the night before the test (administered around 11am the next day). Do you recall how recently you had O'd prior to having the 400-level tests administered? Might be helpful information.

Here are my results (26-year-old, healthy male):
Testosterone (Total, LC/MS/MS):
--Result: 666 ng/dL (normal range 250-1100)

Testosterone (Free):
--Result: 119.0 pg/mL (normal range 35.0-115.0)

Also, I'm heading to Boston in a few days to begin the final year of my grad program. Where is your restaurant located in MA? It would be great to meet up if it's not too far. Feel free to PM me if you don't want the information posted here.


Hoping, My apologies on the delay. That's awesome, congratulations and good luck to you. Our restaurant is located in southeastern mass in Swansea. Its about a 50 minute drive from downtown providence.

My cognitive symptoms started suddenly during an orgasm when I was 16. I then developed my POIS and cognitive/physical symptoms became very severe. Had to leave work and school. This year I had 60% success with regimen. Recently the symptoms have gotten worse again. Let's help each other.
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« #26 : October 29, 2012, 03:54:30 AM »

hey guys sorry but i'm struggling with how to use this aite and was wondering if anyone can tell me about the testosterone levels that they are taking. my doctor has just started me on the testogel 100 mg
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« #27 : October 29, 2012, 10:25:02 AM »

I take 8mg daily of Androderm T patches. I started out with 15mg daily for 2 years, then lowered the dose to curb side effects.

With doctor's monitoring of my condition throughout my 3 year POIS treatment.

simfooks6, welcome to The POIS Forum!

And here are some POIS-enlightening resources for you:
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1.msg1#msg1
« : October 29, 2012, 10:29:36 AM demografx »

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #28 : October 31, 2012, 12:22:51 PM »

I just got my lab results from my testosterone level check.

Both regular and free levels were in the upper normal ranges.  I'm 26 years old, and that definitely helps my levels.  This may have changed though, as around 2 years ago I was prescribed Androgel by a sympathetic endocrinologist in an attempt to treat my POIS.  I couldn't tolerate it, made me edgy and angry.  But I might have had a lower T level back then, which may have changed over time taking supplements.  I'll try to dig those records up.

Turmeric and Rosemary 30-45 minutes before orgasm for anti-inflammatory and immune support has helped me a lot. Faster and easier than niacin approach.
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« #29 : November 01, 2012, 06:05:57 AM »

Hello all,

I discussed with my doc about testosterone ; I'll have my level checked.

We thought we shouldn't compare our levels with normal range but mesure variations through time and POIS phase evolution ;

I'll make it at O+1; O+3 and 0+6/7(depends how i fell...basicly in pois free symptoms state)

I'll post everything here
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