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Vandemolen

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Inflamed tear duct
« on: September 20, 2014, 10:12:58 AM »
I have inflamed tear duct because of POIS. I thought that I had sinusitis. But it always starts with inflamed tear duct. Then the nose, troath and forehead gets inflamed. And after a few days I get a pimple under my eye. That's the pus, not acne.
I read that they put a tube in the tear duct and that helps. Who has inflamed tear duct too?
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2020, 08:41:21 AM »
Nobody else has this problem? After the inflamed tear duct my nose and throath get infected.
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2020, 09:35:44 AM »
No not the tear duct but I experience similar dynamics in other parts of the body where activity/inflammation jumps over or spread. I think it's migratory activation of mast cells.
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Vandemolen

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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2020, 07:14:22 PM »
I bought eyedrops with fake tears. It helps me a bit so my eyes are not that dry anymore. I think I have this problem only during winter because of the centraL heat system. So I am gonna open my windows more during winter. I also want to spend more time outside. And cutting in time using laptop, tablet and smartphone. Also after the sexual activity I will use the eyedrops for the second time that day. In this way I hope my tear duct will not get infected anymore.
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2020, 12:11:37 AM »
I just saw, and have had the pus in eye lid pimple issue as well as persistent red and dry eyes and inflamed lids. 

I am unofficially the foremost authority on POIS red eye. I have dozens of pictures of my single affected red eye and swollen eye lids (that occasionally went to both eyes), and in fact it was the first major symptom that put me on notice that something had changed in my body when my POIS first emerged two years ago.

Something about POIS affects the meibomian glands which line your eyelids. The glands (the are dozens of glands on both your upper and lower lids) are responsible for release of the oils (lipids) that coat the tears released by the lacrimal glands. When the glands get blocked or clogged the oil in the gland solidifies, and doesn't release properly when you blink, so the normal tear does not spread across the eye surface fully or remain on it. Result is dry red eyes. In addition, the blocked glands themselves get infected/irritated causing the angry swollen lids.

It probably is a meibomian gland, not the tear duct that got infected and pus filled.

Relatedly, the blocked glands appear to cause or be paired with increased bacterial growth on the lids and lashes. This is the condition known as blepharitis.

Most opthamologist will easily diagnose the blepharitis and prescribe an antibacterial ointment as well as an eyelid scrub (e.g. Ocusoft) to work on the blepharitis. They may also give you steroid drops which will clear the red eye for a time.

HOWEVER, unless you take steps to unblock the meibomian glands in addition to a scrubbing routine, you will not get relief. To unblock the glands, they must be expressed (squeezed to release contents). There are ways to express the glands at home, but if you are long affected, chances are you would be best served going to a dry eye specialist who has inoffice instruments that heat and then deeply express the blocked glands beyond what you can do manually.

I went to an specialist and did: https://dryeyeandmgd.com/dry-eye-and-mgd-treatments/lipiflow-treatment-leading-cause-dry-eye/
***** cost 800 bucks. And it was worth it. After the inoffice expression, you need to adopt a complete 2x daily regimen of eye washing and at-home gland expression.

For daily washing, I use a tea tree based eye scrub on just the lashes and eyelid margins, NOT the entire eyelid as it will irritate them. (sometimes I use OcuSoft instead) Then I use a cloth to wipe the lashes in one direction (from nose to ear to try and debride the eyelash) with a little bit of pressure, before pat drying my eyes.

Then I do 5 minutes of hot compress on the eyes (microwave a tied off sock filled with uncooked rice for 2 min), followed by manual expression of both eyes, upper and lower. Have to do the hot compress because you can't express the gland oil unless it is heated.

Here's a link that shows you one way to express the glands, I was shown that it is more effective to apply light pressure with your finger tips and hold for 5 seconds at 4 or 5 points along each lid margin, but this will still work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOGwoBD_-sY \

Pro tip: you will know it's working if your eyes all of sudden feel wet and oily.

I also went the extra step and bought this tool to scrub and express the eyelids every few days:

https://www.nusightmedical.com/

Finally, it is important that when using computer, watching TV etc, that every 10 or 15 minutes you look away into the distance and blink a bit for 20 to 30 seconds. Also good to use preservative free eye drops/tears over the course of the day.

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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2020, 06:19:26 AM »
Thanks, I made an appointment for IPL (Intense Pulse Light). I hope it will work. I also have dry ears, dry nose, dry throat and a dry skin.
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2020, 07:01:37 AM »
Something about POIS affects the meibomian glands which line your eyelids. It probably is a meibomian gland, not the tear duct that got infected and pus filled. Relatedly, the blocked glands appear to cause or be paired with increased bacterial growth on the lids and lashes. This is the condition known as blepharitis. Most opthamologist will easily diagnose the blepharitis.

Yes it's the meibomian gland. Got blepharitis as well without red eyes, though the inner lining of the eye lid is red and channels are clogged. These type of glands are also present in skin and other places where they secrete oily substances. I also have some kind of acne on my back and shoulders that could indicate problems with the sebaceous gland family. During very hot weather conditions it may liquify and can be released all at once on your eyes. I got this chemical eye mask that will heat up if you snap it, similar to glow sticks that light up when you bend it but the thermal variant.

I would go to an opthamologist Vandemolen to rule out blepharitis.

Opies...as far I'm concerned you are now the official POIScenter authority on red eyes :D. My mother sometimes have these blood eyes where no white of the eye is visible.

Edit: my 2 cents: Probably inflammation of glands. Some may have inflammation of sebaceous glands others could have inflamed endocrine glands leading to low testosterone for example.
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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2020, 08:13:54 AM »
Hey guys, just thought I'd mention that I also have red eyes as part of my symptom set. It was actually one of the symptoms that made me realise I had POIS, because my eyes look bloodshot very soon after orgasm (seconds, or a few minutes at most). It seems to correlate with my other symptoms, i.e. the stronger the overall symptoms, the redder my eyes are. They also feel a little sore and itchy.

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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2020, 08:23:35 AM »
It seems to correlate with my other symptoms, i.e. the stronger the overall symptoms, the redder my eyes are. They also feel a little sore and itchy.
Mast cell problems.

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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2020, 06:44:37 PM »
I do not think that I have blepharitis. There is nothing to see on my eye lids. All normal. The only thing is that when I wake up my eylids are closed because of the pus. But I will ask them at the clinic of I need to a doctor.

I also have acne on my back and shoulders.
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2020, 09:04:52 PM »
Thanks, I made an appointment for IPL (Intense Pulse Light). I hope it will work. I also have dry ears, dry nose, dry throat and a dry skin.
This week I had my first treatment with IPL. The doctor said my eyes are ok. But there was damage in the eye lid. There was a lot of pus in my eyes. A few days after the treatment there is stil a lot of pus. The doctor said that this is normal. About two weeks I will have my second treatment. The doctor afted the second treatment this will get better. He said that an inflamed tear duct can give a lot of symptons, like a headache.

Does anyone else wears contact lenses?
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2020, 10:46:06 PM »
I used to wear contacts, until lasik many years ago.  I continue with my eye washing regimen and my eyes are generally healthier and happier.  Two things to note -- 1. when in POIS no matter how good my eye washing regimen the lining of my eyelids often get inflamed and uncomfortable. Though my opthamologist did confirm I had blocked glands, I am thinking that perhaps the mast cell theory better explains what's going on. I am looking to have a prescription for Opticrom which is the cromolyn salt medication made for ophthalmologic use. 2. I have benefitted from daily propranolol to treat POIS symptoms, including for the periodic flareups that are not directly tied to O. I believe that the propranolol has some positive effects on eye redness and eye pressure overall.  A couple times recently i skipped the propranolol and in stress situations one of my eyes got crazy red and uncomfortable which was very common before I had made the POIS connection.

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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2020, 09:06:28 PM »
My eyes are much better since the second IPL treatment. But I have to say the last two weeks I was not sexually active so my eyes can heal. About a few weeks I wil have the third IPL treatment and after that I have my tear duct problems will get less worse.
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: Inflamed tear duct
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2021, 10:26:22 AM »
have it all the time