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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #220 on: April 20, 2019, 12:39:40 PM »
I still have Taurine. But I will not use it for a while. Because I read this: ‘Taurine may increase Histamine levels within the Hippocampus.’ Maybe when my histamine problem is fixed I will give it a try.
Is your histamine prob fixed?
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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #221 on: April 22, 2019, 09:35:07 AM »
Very interesting links indeed, thanks.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26239309

https://u1046.edu.umontpellier.fr/163-2/abrege-des-proteines-musculaires/dystrophine-therapies/
In french, the abdnormal metabolism of taurine must be the cause of dystophine deficit.


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« Reply #222 on: July 01, 2019, 12:55:36 PM »
When I take meals with high glycemic effect an no taurine, I feel Pois fever.
The only organ which might link the 3 is pancreas.

Pancreas is where taurine is synthetized.
Pancreas is where insuline is synthetized to regulate blood sugar.
Pancreas is linked to testosterone release.
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« Reply #223 on: July 06, 2019, 07:16:05 AM »
When I take meals with high glycemic effect an no taurine, I feel Pois fever.
The only organ which might link the 3 is pancreas.

Pancreas is where taurine is synthetized.
Pancreas is where insuline is synthetized to regulate blood sugar.
Pancreas is linked to testosterone release.

It might also be the thyroid.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2314853517300720

I get issues when I eat a lot of flax seed, and this is a known thyroid suppressor.
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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #224 on: July 07, 2019, 02:17:47 PM »
I have thyroid cases in my family.
And thyroid seems to be sensible to sugar.
That is a good idea, thanks.
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« Reply #225 on: July 08, 2019, 04:26:38 PM »
b_jim,

Wanted to thank you for documenting your experience with Taurine. I've been on a 3+ month hiatus, still dealing with issues, but am managing my symptoms. I attribute my stabilization to Taurine as well.

I want to take a lot of time and go through this whole thread, but wanted to ask. Have you experimented with Phenibut? GABA crossing the blood brain barrier is negligible, but Phenibut does cross, if I recall.

Although Phenibut also works for me, I notice that I'm more lethargic and my focus is somewhat limited afterwards. Not that it's a bad thing, I just feel that the GABA boost imbalances my dopamine levels.

I tend to balance it out by taking B9 Folate and B12 (both Methyl) which I've also documented as raising my energy and dopamine levels.

Wanted to get your experiences with that.

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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #226 on: July 09, 2019, 02:51:27 PM »
Hi, thanks for your post.
I've never tried phenibut. I took few taurine in 2019, but i have just some taurine and glycynate magnesium.
I will took 2 caps of 500mg a week only.

What I'm 100% sure :

Taurine is the best supplement, magnesium 2nd position.
Sugar increases flu-like symtpoms.
Chlorid (salt) element controles muscle tremors in/out of pois.
Magnesium taken after 5PM supress insomnias symptoms.



I agree all what you said expect B12. I don't think I could have B12 deficiency because my red cells parameters are at maximum value (even higher).

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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #227 on: July 22, 2019, 09:55:05 AM »
I feel depressed since a week. Hot flash at night and poor concentration.
I restart to take taurine. I felt improvment with muscular low energy symptoms.
But flu-like/hot flashes symptoms are present.
I ate lot of sugar, even high glycemic fruit.
Now I stop sugar too, I bet flu-like will go on and depression too.
We will see in 15 days
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« Reply #228 on: July 22, 2019, 11:41:53 AM »
b_jim, hope you get better soon.
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« Reply #229 on: July 29, 2019, 01:34:25 PM »
I feel better but now I have fat bad digestion :D
But I understood why.
I have not enough bile
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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #230 on: July 29, 2019, 04:39:56 PM »
What I'm 100% sure :

Taurine is the best supplement, magnesium 2nd position.
Sugar increases flu-like symtpoms.
Chlorid (salt) element controles muscle tremors in/out of pois.
Magnesium taken after 5PM supress insomnias symptoms.


Just FYI, apparently the taurine+magnesium combination is known for its migraine inhibiting effect. See [1]. Quoting:

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One of the pertinent natural home remedies for migraines is taurine’s effects on glutamate, GABA, and intracellular calcium. Taurine appears to inhibit glutamate’s effect of raising intracellular calcium. This was well established in studies at the University of Kansas in 2001. Subsequent work demonstrated a reduction in calcium influx through specific voltage-gated calcium channels and the NMDA receptor calcium channel. Magnesium appeared essential for the taurine effect.

Emphasis added. See also [2].

[1] https://www.consciouslifestylemag.com/natural-remedies-for-migraines/

[2] https://migraine.com/stories/taurine-miracle-cure/
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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #231 on: August 02, 2019, 01:08:12 PM »
Thanks for the link !  8)  I already knew the relation between both. Some supplements associate Taurine + mg.
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« Reply #232 on: September 25, 2019, 04:31:27 PM »
I started taking Taurine and Tyrosine, besides all I'm doing, and my POIS was significantly low, and my libido increased a lot.

The real question is.. why the hell my body is not absorving enough taurine and tyrosine from food? I addressed low stomach acid, and it worked to some extent, but, even with my acids high, it seems that my body is not absorving enough from food I eat. I eat a LOT of protein, to get those aminoacids.. maybe it's the GUT that is not functional enough? Maybe it's candida in the gut preventing 100% absorption? Maybe I should increase probiotics?

Why we need to supplement taurine and tyrosine since they are both extremely abundant in meat, milk, eggs, and so on?

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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #233 on: September 26, 2019, 11:14:38 AM »
Happy it works for you.
Malabsorption and low stomach acid are serious possible causes.
In few days, I hope to learn more on my microbiota.

Gluten is a second culprit after white sugar.
I was very sensible to sugar and few to gluten. Now, I'm very sensible to gluten too.


To have a taurine effect, I need at least 300g of fish maybe more but it's possible.
To have tyrosine effect I don't know. In theory, lot of proteins at brakefast and lunch are enough.
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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #234 on: September 26, 2019, 11:39:33 AM »
Malabsorption and low stomach acid are serious possible causes.
I agree.

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« Reply #235 on: September 26, 2019, 04:51:36 PM »
I just saw Julia Ross saying in youtube that Candida and hypothyroidism and culprits for aminoacid deficiencies. I mean.. kind of.. I just linked it.. You must see the video first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CMnh7nYOrM&t=2902s

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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #236 on: September 27, 2019, 12:08:31 AM »
Malabsorption and low stomach acid are serious possible causes.
I agree.
Are there tests for low acidity or stomach enzyme production? 

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« Reply #237 on: September 28, 2019, 06:52:17 AM »
I started taking Taurine and Tyrosine, besides all I'm doing, and my POIS was significantly low, and my libido increased a lot.

Are you sure it is a lasting effect? I remember taking tyrosine, and it gave me some relief but stopped working after a few days.

500mg of taurine every night long term, however, does seem to work for me somewhat (I'd say 30% relief)
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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #238 on: October 04, 2019, 12:29:28 PM »



b_jim, what do you think of “Red Bull Taurine Energy Drink”?
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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #239 on: October 05, 2019, 07:07:56 AM »
Too much sugar, too much caffeine. And what about the taste ? Dunno, I never drank this :) 
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