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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #165 on: September 13, 2018, 05:14:22 PM »
Taurine is very interesting. I wish we knew more about *why* it has a good effect for you, b_jim.

Taurine does something with calcium? I always get weird effects when I supplement calcium, have you ever supplemented calcium b__jim?

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Taurine is responsible for contributing to several different cellular processes including neuromodulation, neurotransmission and regulation of calcium dependent functions

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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #166 on: September 13, 2018, 06:35:18 PM »
Thanks, Scrub!


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« Reply #167 on: September 14, 2018, 03:37:16 AM »
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I wish we knew more about *why* it has a good effect for you, b_jim.
This is the question !

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Taurine does something with calcium? I always get weird effects when I supplement calcium, have you ever supplemented calcium b__jim?

I never tought this before but I took only 1 time calcium supplement : it was few months before Pois beggining for knees pains (when I was child, I was small and when I became teenager I grow up too fast and I had knee pains).
Did excessive calcium caused the unbalance with zinc, mg or something elese ?
I don't think so but all is possible.
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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #168 on: September 15, 2018, 11:58:09 AM »
I've got taurine but always forgets to take it since it says it should be taken on empty stomach

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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #169 on: September 15, 2018, 01:33:48 PM »
I try a new combo : 500mg of taurine + 500mg of tyrosine 30 minutes before orgasm.
I follow a diet with few meat I maybe I lack a bit of proteins.
This year i feel more symptoms. So I try tyrosine. I didn't give up the idea of a low dopamine lvel.
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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #170 on: September 15, 2018, 04:20:42 PM »
I try a new combo : 500mg of taurine + 500mg of tyrosine 30 minutes before orgasm.
I follow a diet with few meat I maybe I lack a bit of proteins.
This year i feel more symptoms. So I try tyrosine. I didn't give up the idea of a low dopamine lvel.

Don't you think it might be better to try out tyrosine after orgasm? If you're right, dopamine would be depleted after ejaculation, and tyrosine as a precursor would help you to restore it.

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« Reply #171 on: September 16, 2018, 03:34:40 AM »
i'm testing. I will give my feelings after some weeks. Today I'm fine.
Dopamine itself might be not enough to explain Pois.
Dopamine might be enough to explain loss of energy, muscular fatigue and loss of concentration. But not flu-like symptoms.

Maybe the couple enorphins/dopamine + Gaba regulation and their different fluctuation after orgasm ans semen regenration can explain all.
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« Reply #172 on: September 17, 2018, 07:08:13 AM »
Found an article: https://www.news-medical.net/news/20180307/Researchers-determine-cause-of-difficult-to-control-mitochondrial-diseases.aspx

It says that taurine deficiency impairs mitochondrial function.

Instead of supplementing with taurine, it seems that supplementing with TUDCA is even better:

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In recent years, compounds that inhibit abnormal protein aggregation have been developed. One of these compounds, TUDCA (ursodeoxycholic acid), is a substance originally present as a secondary bile acid in the body. Administering TUDCA to cells without taurine-tRNA binding resulted in the near complete disappearance of aggregates and the reduction of cellular stress. Moreover, when TUDCA was administered to mitochondrial disease model mice with reduced taurine-tRNA binding, cell damage was also improved.

This is the thread I got it from: https://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/100083-new-taurine-study/
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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #173 on: September 17, 2018, 12:32:17 PM »
Thanks. Not easy to understand but it seems it's only from mithocondrial point of view. Why not, I don't know. All is possible.
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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #174 on: September 18, 2018, 11:37:17 PM »
bjim, do you eat white bread and white rice.

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« Reply #175 on: September 20, 2018, 04:54:53 AM »
Yes, I do. I eat basmati rice for low glycemic index. But it's not a success for my stomach. I like white bread (baguette) especially at breakfast with butter or at lauch with cheese.
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« Reply #176 on: September 20, 2018, 12:52:03 PM »
Yes, I do. I eat basmati rice for low glycemic index. But it's not a success for my stomach. I like white bread (baguette) especially at breakfast with butter or at lauch with cheese.

Thanks, I didn't want to give those up.   Basmati rice still made me feel weird if i eat a lot of it so i switched to parboiled rice which glycemic index is much lower than basmati.

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« Reply #177 on: September 20, 2018, 09:31:20 PM »
b_jim,
How do Taurine supplements feel for you in comparison to "Monster" energy drinks. I understand Monster has about 144mg of caffeine so i assume one would feel more energetic with monster compared to Taurine, but i wouldn't know since i haven't just isolated Taurine and taken it individually as a supplement.
Is the energy boost for you comparable?
Is it even an a short term energy boost for you, or is it a more gradual well being feeling over time?
I ask because today was a particularly tough day for me involving anxiety and irritablility, until i remembered this thread about taurine and reached for a Monster Rehab at a convenience store. I felt much better relatively instantly which brought up a lot of questions for me, particularly whether, it was the caffeine making me feel better or taurine.
And i hate to be off topic, but i many times wonder if POIS symptoms are similar too Sleep apnea, I notice After 0 my breathing becomes more shallow and short and perhaps sleep apnea is present and aggravated on days following O. Any thoughts? I'm somewhat new to the forum and haven't found sleep apnea discussed in detail deep in the archives....
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Re: The Taurine laboratory
« Reply #178 on: September 20, 2018, 10:47:48 PM »
Strangely I never tried these energy drinks ! Not at all.
I drink very few coffee because i'm sensible to caffeine. I would say tuarine has as calming effect, not excitating.

About apneas, I tried valerian 10-12 years ago. It gave me terrible effects on breath and apnea, dispite it supposed to be sedative and gabaergic plant.
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« Reply #179 on: September 21, 2018, 11:27:12 PM »
Ok,
Today is my O+5 day and strangely I've been feeling a lot worse Than my O+1 day ( I keep a personal journal to document my POIS and supplements). I took another monster energy drink today and it's effects were nowhere near as effective as previously, so today neither caffeine nor taurine in monster helped. I'm suspecting my daily 5htp before bed may help me on O+1 days but afterwards makes me more tired on O+3 and on days due to it maybe raising my melatonin.
Regardless I did purchase some taurine supplements and once I feel a good starting point I will give myself a 15 day trial!
Current Sups: Intermit. Fasting 16hr for 18months.
Morn - B50-complex
After Dinner - Zinc Gly 30mg, Topical Magnes. 10sprays, Vit E Complex, Vit D 5000IUs every other day.
O+Zero,0+1,2 days - 5HTP 200mg