Reduction of symptoms by diet

[b_jim]

According to Pr Walter Willett (Harvard), high IG food activate inflammatory system, like TNF-Alpha.

When you feel the flu, you feel mainly the job of cytokines. As you know, when an old man die by influenza, it's mainly caused by overreaction of inflammatory system.

For me, the cause of cognitive symptoms is caused by low neurotransmitters levels. Indeed the cytokines must cause some troubles in neutransmitters synthesis.
When you have a flu : you feel depressed and you have brain fog too.

So, if you reduce the inflammation cascade, you reduce the effects of the whole chain.

Ejac.>allergic reaction>inflammation>neutransmitters=>mood+cognitive
                 (1)                     (2)

The Waldinger's therapy works on step (1).
I propose to work on step (2) tentatively.
Of course, the real objective is Waldinger therapy.

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[Vincent M]

Something small I noticed today is that eating a few eggs after not having any eggs at all in like a month or two I noticed my POIS is slightly less. Even though I've been getting plenty protein from meat I guess eggs help my body as well so I'm going to start having eggs at least once a week from now on, but I'll start out aiming for once a morning for the next few days to keep the thought in my mind.

[Vincent M]

Just read this treatment on the Sexual Exhaustion forum:

 Foods high in choline:
Soy - Do not recommend due to widespread of GM and reduces testosterone
Beef Liver - Do not recommend due to parasites
Egg Yolks - Recommend

WHFoods wrote:
"One large egg provides 300 micrograms of choline (all in the yolk), and also contains 315 milligrams (yes, milligrams not micrograms) of phosphatidylcholine. Although most sources just report the free choline at 300 micrograms, it is the phosphatidylcholine that is the most common form in which choline is incorporated into cell membrane phospholipids."

This might explain why eating over-medium or over-easy eggs reduces my POIS symptoms. Also I remember there was a supplement I used to take that had choline and if I remember correctly I had reduced POIS during the time I was taking it.

[Ccconfucius]

you can also buy choline supplements they are cheap buy bulk if you find it successful.

[Willem]

Trying the sweet potato diet mentioned on the NSF, pounding one large sweet potato a day for the next five days.  Let's see if this does anything...

[UnderstandingPois]

  its true, i sometimes feel worse when taking omega 3-6-9, but when i eat sardines i feel better, cla 95 makes me feel better.

[Samir]

One of the best remedies I've found is a frozen meal by Kashi--Chicken Florentine.  It has garlic and spinach as well as a healthy does of protein from the whole grains and chicken.  It's one of only two foods that I used to eat pre-diabetic that I still eat now.  I find that these help reduce my symptom duration by up to 50%.  I keep a stock of these and eat them regularly even when I'm feeling normal just to keep myself healthy.

[Ccconfucius]

this is my first definitive evidence that high glycemic foods affect me.
I ate a solid amount of jasmine rice for lunch and felt like crap(enough to not feel like doing any of my work and just wanted to lay in bed) for the rest of the day.
since then i have been avoiding rice.
I just looked up the glycemic index of jasmine rice it is  109, makes alot of sense.
I am going to keep avoiding rice and other high glycemic foods, deep fried foods to see what happens.


I wonder if this also occurs in people without pois but dont have diabetes.

[haidcat]

How soon after eating does this happen to you?  I have the exact same Problem

[Limejuice]

Like both of you I'm also sensitive to carbs - particularly starchy and sweet foods.  I tend to eat only meats, cheeses, nuts, and low carb vegetables...

[Ccconfucius]

How soon after eating does this happen to you?  I have the exact same Problem

like 30mins-1hr after eating and felt bad for the rest of the day.  I ate bunch amount of rice with no meat and little vegetables.

[Ccconfucius]

Like both of you I'm also sensitive to carbs - particularly starchy and sweet foods.  I tend to eat only meats, cheeses, nuts, and low carb vegetables...

I still eat high fiber bread and cereal. Do those affect you.

[Limejuice]

They do but not as strongly as high glycemic foods such as rice.  A good indicator to how a food will effect... is glycemic index.

[Ccconfucius]

They do but not as strongly as high glycemic foods such as rice.  A good indicator to how a food will effect... is glycemic index.

you have constant pois to right, since you changed your diet have you seen improvement in that.

what is your weight, i am considered obese but am still active. U dont think this has anything to do with diabetes.

[kurtosis]

They do but not as strongly as high glycemic foods such as rice.  A good indicator to how a food will effect... is glycemic index.

you have constant pois to right, since you changed your diet have you seen improvement in that.

what is your weight, i am considered obese but am still active. U dont think this has anything to do with diabetes.

There's a connection between High GI meals and hormone release. Basically, High GI causes the release of stress hormones. I'm still convinced that our bodies are ins some stress state and anything we do to reduce it helps us. I wonder if the thyroid is implicated in POIS. If there's some kind of malfunction as some of us have classic hypothyroid symptoms like eye trouble, skin problems, fatigue, dizziness and depression.

Anywhere, here's some stuff on GI foods and hormones.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18496812
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10049982

[kurtosis]

Actually, I've made a few dietary changes myself over the past few weeks which may explain why I'm still doing well on my b+ginkgo regime.

- Big reduction in gluten. I'm using some gluten free products and, otherwise, just not eating foods that are high in gluten.
- No soy or soy derived products which rules out a lot of supplements. 
- Reducing foods I know are high in MSG. No chinese takeouts.
- Trying to reduce GI so I don't feel bloated. Like others here I noticed a high GI meal will make me useless for the rest of the day. It's like mini-POIS and from the post above, I don't think that's any accident.
- Natural whey protein with no artificial sweeteners, colourings etc. I get stomach upsets from the ones with artificial sweeteners. B_Daniel recommended I try it and now I'm using Muscle Milk naturals.
- Trying to avoid anything high in fluoride that may suppress my thyroid function. I'm using a fluoride free toothpaste and I've avoided drinking the tap water in my country which is known to be over fluoridated.
- Coconut Oil and coconut milk. I get a sense of wellness when I consume this and I don't feel the cold as much. It has the weirdest effect on unblocking my sinuses. I recently put it on a bad cut I got, the kind I would have treated with HC in the past and I was amazed at how fast it healed.

This was in response to my allergist who made a pretty obvious remark that I'd somehow missed. i.e. if you say that some foods make you feel ill then perhaps you could try not eating any of them for a while while we try to figure out what's elevating Ig.
So thats low GI, high protein (not soya), reduce fluoride and MSG and MCT's from coconut.
Between the supplements I'm taking and the dietary change, this is the biggest change I've made to my life in years and I still feel good.

[poisioq]

- No soy or soy derived products which rules out a lot of supplements. 

how does it work?