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Adrenal Fatigue or POIS ?
« on: May 12, 2014, 09:55:23 AM »
Hi guys,

I'm new here.
Been having severe fatigue/concentration issues/brain fog/anxiety/low stress resistance for over two years now.
It got to the point where I couldn't function at work anymore.
I always knew orgasm exacerbated my situation, and certainly PMO (watching porn).
Blood tests always come up with: Normal to HIGH total cortisol, but LOW FREE CORTISOL (below range), low DHEA, low PREGNENOLONE.
So that dictates adrenal fatigue.
But then again, I only discovered POIS diagnosis recently, so I am going to try no PMO, NOFAP, abstinence for as long as possible now.

Are there any people here who have the same doubts about their diagnosis/condition as I have?

Thanks for your reply,
K.

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Re: Adrenal Fatigue or POIS ?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2014, 04:53:08 PM »
What you describe is common among us here. if not; the universal POIS symptom regardless of degree of severity of symptoms (a chronic fatigue of sorts).

I also have elevated cortisol and testosterone, yet do not know progesterone levels. Blood tests always come back inconclusive or fine for me as well, with the exception of immunogobulins E and a spinal tap reveling slightly elevated proteins in CSF.

Sometimes my adrenaline goes for so long I feel manic, other times, as inflammation reduces I feel exhausted and very inflexible. I would rather the inflammation than that odd adrenaline fueled mania (where the inflammation is actually greater yet I cannot feel it because I numb out from the high pain).
28 yo M- POIS for 16yrs (since age 12). Chronic POIS- always there

Tried desensitization for 1.5yrs & was unsuccessful (POIS worse at 1/1000)

 Exercising- (running/light weights/situps/yoga) Ice my perineum. Gluten-free. Supplements- limited success.Meds- Oxcarbazepine/Buspar (past-Depakote10yrs)

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Re: Adrenal Fatigue or POIS ?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2016, 04:14:39 PM »
I'm searching and browsing through old chats regarding adrenal fatigue and POIS

Can anyone remember interesting conclusions or references that came up?

My doc asked me if I can find something regarding this.

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Re: Adrenal Fatigue or POIS ?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2016, 09:33:31 PM »
I'm searching and browsing through old chats regarding adrenal fatigue and POIS

Can anyone remember interesting conclusions or references that came up?

My doc asked me if I can find something regarding this.

Hi, less_fogged --

The diagnosis of "adrenal fatigue" is not yet accepted by mainstream medicine. Your physician is probably having a devil of a time finding reliable information.

I take it from your post that you've searched the forum (via the search box) for "adrenal fatigue," and have found several previous posts. I don't know if there were any definite conclusions or good references in those posts. I did just do a google search and a PubMed search for "adrenal fatigue," but found nothing to recommend.

Maybe some of your comrades here will have some helpful information to share.

Best wishes,
Stef

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Re: Adrenal Fatigue or POIS ?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2016, 10:21:53 PM »
Since 2007, most of the posts addressing "adrenal fatigue" have not been scientifically based.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Adrenal Fatigue or POIS ?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2016, 02:20:34 AM »
I accept the idea that adrenal fatigue is not  a real disease and not argued by real facts.
But :

1/ Nowadays, medias AND doctors use more and more the word "burn out" at work which is exactly the SAME THING !!

2/ If my heart, my kidneys or other organs can be fatigued because I'm old, I drank too much alcohol or for any reason, I can"t understand why my adrenal glands couldn't be fatigued by too much stress.

3/ Some article like this :
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/286390
"WHO recognizes adrenal fatigue syndrome as real ailment"
I sent a mail to stephanie Dearing but I never got the original article from the WHO !

So, the debate is not closed on this subject.
Remember the debate about opioid peptids.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2016, 02:22:37 AM by b_jim »
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Re: Adrenal Fatigue or POIS ?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2016, 06:06:52 AM »
Good points to consider, b_jim.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Adrenal Fatigue or POIS ?
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2016, 03:36:00 PM »
Thanks stef, b_jim and demo for the tips

Every time I visit my doc, he's puzzled at knowing how he could help me further.  And without being able to get a diagnosis it can sometimes make things pretty complex regarding social security which is why he's searching hard.
All I can do and have done is make myself ill from the one day to the next and show him the state I get in when POIS hits me hard and willing to allow him draw my blood etc... proving I'm not taking drugs or something causing this on purpose!!! Besides this all I can do is put him in contact with previous docs that I've been in contact with over the years while I was trying to figure out what exactly my problem was.

All together for me a combination of abstaining as much as possible together with a healthy diet keeps my head reasonably clear but chest inflammation stays another story. The inflammation part asks for a lot of homework though to try prevent sleep interuption. During the day I feel like staying active is what helps the most to keep inflammation partly under control.

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Re: Adrenal Fatigue or POIS ?
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2019, 09:13:43 PM »
Hello

In my opinion , POIS is definitely related with the adrenals / adrenal fatigue.

To give you an example , in my case when I have POIS symptoms, lately I have a ache of my left adrenal gland...
If you google for adrenal fatigue symptoms you will find that they are very similar with POIS ones. (almost identical)

And , there is a known fact that orgasm is causing spikes in cortisol (pituitary glad involved here) . Who produces that one ? Adrenals.
Exposing adrenals to repeated stress - can lead to adrenal fatigue .

Even further - you may ask yourself POIS could be in fact a specific form of adrenal fatigue?
By the way - could be just a coincidence, both , POIS and adrenal fatigue ,are not accepted as recognised medical conditions...



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Re: Adrenal Fatigue or POIS ?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2019, 12:44:06 AM »
Since 2007, most of the posts addressing "adrenal fatigue" have not been scientifically based.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Adrenal Fatigue or POIS ?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2019, 04:12:16 PM »
Hey man,

I completely sympathize with you here. Have you tried supplementing with something like pregnenalone? Also, I recommend looking into some thyroid labs, if you haven't already. They could yield some important information.