Overmasturbation

[Chris]

Topic and Poll about overmasturbation.
A quote for overmasturbation from another topic :
I found on a site this paragraph about side effects of over masturbation and its the following :

Over Mastrubation can cause all kinds of physical and mental problems besides prostate problems and testicular problems. Prostatitis is of course the most directly noticeable problem. You get pain in your prostate or testicles or lower back. Even your pelvis can hurt.

But here is a list of things you can experience from too much mastrubation:

Depression
Fatigue, even chronic fatigue
Male hair loss
Low back pain (it can be just a dull ache or severe!)
Eye floaters
Fuzzy vision
Memory problems
Absentmindedness (from depletion of acetylcholine)
Lack of concentration
(Source :http://www.prostate-massage-and-health.com/Mastrubation.html)

[Chris]

I could add more options but i thought it would spoil the poll.I have to admit : I have overmasturbated a lot of times in the past and most of them was because of POIS.
I even reached the point were so little or no sperm was ejaculated but i kept masturbating.This things happened when i was a very young teenager but i had overmasturbation times
even recently.I think the last one was 2-3 months ago when i masturbated 3 times in a row(due to POIS always, i was so angry and depressed).Once, last year i had trippled
the times.I know it sounds pathetic but i couldnt control myself,everything was meanless.

As a young teenager (probably 13-14) i overmasturbated a lot.It is something that always stucks in my head when i think about POIS.
I have the sense that it might be relevant to the cause.Overmasturbation, i think is dangerous.

[Daveman]

I can't even imagine masturbating when I have POIS, don't know how you do it!? 

But I think that some may be more prone to adverse effects from over masturbating than others. I know I have felt on the odd occasion the aching prostate from masturbating more than once, but I anwered "No", because if I ever masturbated a lot, it was in spurts (sorry for the pun). And probably never more than twice in a row, nor for prolonged periods. (Once in my life I did it with three different girls on the same day... I think i still have a certificate on the wall LOL.. don't remember feeling bad at all after that)

My worst might have been when in my prime and maybe I did it once a day. I don't think that is over-masturbation. At least for an adolescent.

[Chris]

I can't even imagine masturbating when I have POIS, don't know how you do it!? 

But I think that some may be more prone to adverse effects from over masturbating than others. I know I have felt on the odd occasion the aching prostate from masturbating more than once, but I anwered "No", because if I ever masturbated a lot, it was in spurts (sorry for the pun). And probably never more than twice in a row, nor for prolonged periods. (Once in my life I did it with three different girls on the same day... I think i still have a certificate on the wall LOL.. don't remember feeling bad at all after that)

My worst might have been when in my prime and maybe I did it once a day. I don't think that is over-masturbation. At least for an adolescent.

At that time, my POIS wasnt noticable, i mean, i didnt have the symptoms that i have now, and my sex drive was so high that leaded me
me to such actions.Plus as a young teenager i didnt have the willpower or the knowledge to control myself, and felt in the same trap (as other teens like me) of porn.My main reason to create this topic as i said before is to see if there is any relation between overmasturbation and POIS as a cause or as a parameter of making POIS worse.Its not the ONE and ONLY cause for everyone here (unlike, i am one that supports that POIS might have more than a cause ) but it might be relevant for some, especially for those whose POIS started at puberty and is more possible that
had as the topic say ''times of overmasturbation''.

And yes, your correct.Not even close to overmasturbation.Besides acts of overmaturbation tend to be a teens subject mostly,if i am not mistaking(because of hormones,age etc.)
and as i recall your POIS developed in adulthood so it doesnt have any relation for sure with this but glad you posted.

[Daveman]

My feeling generally, is that POISers do tend to masturbate more than normal.

I don't know, maybe it's because we are open about the subject, but there are those that do it near ten times in a day... whew!

Not that it's "BAD" or nauughty, but there must be some connection.

And certainly extremes of anything usually aren't good for us.. 

[Chris]

I want to add another topic/poll here that is relevant to masturbation frequency.
It seems many of us before POIS onset, had overmasturbation habbits.
Here is the link : http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=982.0
P.S (Try answering those pole guys)

[Going less Crazy]

I'm not sure if overmasturbation is definitely the cause of POIS.  Every teenager "over masturbates".  But I definitely masturbated a lot prior to POIS.  I'm not sure if I sensitized myself to some hormone released after orgasm or what but I am not sure at all.

[Chris]

I am just thinking that for some POIS sufferers it might be relevant to the cause or a parameter to make POIS worse.Just a hupothesis based on the symptoms and the hole
change of chemistry that overmasturbation cause.Maybe something went wrong due to our overmasturbation habbits and caused this disorder we call POIS.But who knows ?
Only a good scientific research can tell.

[Egordon]

I've certainly wondered a lot about this theory. After all, as a young man I used to go 2-5 times a day. It certainly seems possible to me that all that masturbation caused some sort of problem.

It's an interesting topic for researchers to explore at some point in the very distant future.

[Vandemolen]

I started with masturb. when I was 25 years old. Maybe 5 times a week. I thought about the theory that my body didn't had a lot of contact with my semen and then on the age of 25 overmasturb.

[Chris]

I started with masturb. when I was 25 years old. Maybe 5 times a week. I thought about the theory that my body didn't had a lot of contact with my semen and then on the age of 25 overmasturb.

I dont think 5 times a week is overmasturbation.
There are people here who did it 5 times a day!That's what i think is overmasturbation.

[Timtim]

I used to overmasturbate. I started masturbating at the age of 10 or so I guess, I was just a child and did not know what i was doing exactly. however this habit was not an ongoing one. I mean it was on and off. at the age of 19 I stopped masturbating and having sex and I did not have NE and that age. My pois symptoms started at the age of 15 / 16 as far as I remember of course! and my pois was severe. after 1 year of not having orgasm my symptoms have been reduced. I am 27 now and I am still a sufferer. I am sure this happened to me just because of overmasturbation. I want to stop having sex and orgasm for a couple of years to see if the symptoms get better but I have NE every 6 days! That is a hell. my face looks like a shit after orgasm and my brain stops working.
I want to know if any of you has the same problem? Do you think masturbation caused your pois too?
the idea of ruining my life by myself is killing me.

[dizzy]

I want to know if any of you has the same problem? Do you think masturbation caused your pois too?
the idea of ruining my life by myself is killing me.

I think masturbation can't cause pois by itself, but if you consume a lot of porn while masturbating, then it might cause issues.

See for example https://yourbrainonporn.com for an indication of how porn can mess up someone's brain. (Fortunately this kind of damage seems reversible).

Another website http://www.healthystrokes.com/ (note: not a secure website) has a lot of interesting info about masturbation, and the main message is that masturbation is healthy.

[berlin1984]

https://twitter.com/historyinpics/status/1419079027831148547
"An Anti-masturbation cartoon published in the ‘The Sexual System and its Derangements’, an 1875 book published in New York and written by one Emery C. Abbey. The cartoon contrasts the sorry state of the masturbator at ages 16 and 50 with the health and vitality of the abstainer"

[under maintenance]

I used to overmasturbate. I started masturbating at the age of 10 or so I guess, I was just a child and did not know what i was doing exactly. however this habit was not an ongoing one. I mean it was on and off. at the age of 19 I stopped masturbating and having sex and I did not have NE and that age. My pois symptoms started at the age of 15 / 16 as far as I remember of course! and my pois was severe. after 1 year of not having orgasm my symptoms have been reduced. I am 27 now and I am still a sufferer. I am sure this happened to me just because of overmasturbation. I want to stop having sex and orgasm for a couple of years to see if the symptoms get better but I have NE every 6 days! That is a hell. my face looks like a shit after orgasm and my brain stops working.
I want to know if any of you has the same problem? Do you think masturbation caused your pois too?
the idea of ruining my life by myself is killing me.

You don't need to stop for years to see the good effects of abstaining. One to two months and I can see huge improvments.

[Journey]

https://twitter.com/historyinpics/status/1419079027831148547
"An Anti-masturbation cartoon published in the ‘The Sexual System and its Derangements’, an 1875 book published in New York and written by one Emery C. Abbey. The cartoon contrasts the sorry state of the masturbator at ages 16 and 50 with the health and vitality of the abstainer"

I am sure those books/caricatures about dangers of onanism and vitality of abstinence and so on were based on historical POISers before post-orgasmic illness syndrome was known to exist

The rise of SR/NoFap as an idea might have been partially fueled by unaware POISers too who saw orgasm makes them feel bad and abstinence makes them feel good so they concluded abstinence has benefits which in reality are the normal states that non-POISers are in 24/7

For the last months I have been working with other POISers to spread awareness about POIS especially on SR/NoFap subreddits/communities and we found 200 new POISers and https://reddit.com/r/POIS soon will reach 1500 members, our goal is to get it up to 2000 members by the start of summer -  in December alone we got 100 new members

So it confirms my theory if the info about POIS reaches far wider then many more POISers appear once they realize it is exactly what they have felt

So POIS is likely NOT a rare disorder and my guess is there may be millions of POISers

The reason why officially currently there is only a 4 digit member count for POIS (it will change with time) is due to POIS only being discovered around 20 years ago and it is now only catching up in awareness and it will take time for those who first found SR/NoFap idea to realize the symptoms they felt isn't normal and not caused by PMO addiction/sexual exhaustion or something like that so imagine all the unaware POISers who haven't linked their symptoms with orgasm + ones who never heard of POIS or even nofap/sr + ones who are resistant to the idea of POIS and think it is normal and they have to abstain and then you have the percentage of POISers who through years connected the dots and realized the symptoms they feel post-orgasm aren't normal and found the term POIS and the POIS communities too and joined them - it can take years for a POISer to even discover it
,
The best we can do is to make posts on Reddit, YouTube, Twitter about POIS especially on SR/NoFap/abstinence communities, and message famous doctors/youtubers/journalists/websites especially sexuality-health related ones to write about POIS

Then unaware POISers are more likely to see it and realize they have it+join the POIS communities which will make even more POISers trying out stuff and continuing the spread of info about it further continuing this loop over time leading to a proportionally increasing POIS community size

Therefore get to the work of spreading POIS awareness!

[Rollo]

I have not noticed my POIS for atleast 7-8 years because i was in that state almost constantly for that time. I did not recognize for that long that it triggers on masturbation. And since i got no other diagnosis i even doubted that i was properly sick. Also visiting a doctor is almost impossible to me while in POIS.

[berlin1984]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35952519/
" N-acetylcysteine in the treatment of compulsive sexual behavior disorder: A case series "