Official Desensitization plan Begins!

[biocentric]

van,
sorry to be a pain but could you list the stages/injection strengths so far and how long you had at each stage
THANKS!!

[Vandemolen]

Yesterday I had an O. Today is day 1. And I feel better than normal. I think I have 25 % less POIS. But I don't know in how far this is the effect of injections. Because I was eroused a very long time and then I had the O. In this case there is always less seed in the sperm. That could be a reason. And the other thing is that I just came back from a holiday from Asia (lot's of vitamin D). I will try it about a week with a quick O. I will let you know. But I can't wait to get my new injection about 3 weeks.

An O. again. And again I think 25% less symptoms. Mainly less rash in my mouth and nose.

[Vandemolen]

van,
sorry to be a pain but could you list the stages/injection strengths so far and how long you had at each stage
THANKS!!

I didn't had the normal procedure. Because I made in 1 time a step in the plan. Normally you begin with 1/10.000. After 5 months it's 1/1.000. I don't know the scheme between those 4 months.

[biocentric]

van,
sorry to be a pain but could you list the stages/injection strengths so far and how long you had at each stage
THANKS!!

I didn't had the normal procedure. Because I made in 1 time a step in the plan. Normally you begin with 1/10.000. After 5 months it's 1/1.000. I don't know the scheme between those 4 months.

but what have you had? what did you begin with? where you at now? thanks

[Vandemolen]

but what have you had? what did you begin with? where you at now? thanks

First time: 1/10.000. Second time 1/1000. I had 2 injections.

[biocentric]

thanks

[Starsky]

Is somebody doing this desensitization plan too but lives outside Netherlands?

[Vandemolen]

I m. for a few hours (my plan was to have arousal but nog O.). Not so smart. Look what happened: I had a rash on the hand which touched the sperm. For me this is another prove that in my case it's about allergies. Of course maybe there are other causes too.

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[Starsky]

Is there a big danger that the allergy due to this programm gets worse?

[Daveman]

Is there a big danger that the allergy due to this programm gets worse?

Theoretically no. It's a common method of treating allergies.

As has been mentioned, the most dangerous part is avoiding system-wide shock shortly after application of the injection. Which is minimal although very dangerous IF it happens. Doctors are prepared to address the onset of shock.

[rock27]

Is there a big danger that the allergy due to this programm gets worse?

Theoretically no. It's a common method of treating allergies.

As has been mentioned, the most dangerous part is avoiding system-wide shock shortly after application of the injection. Which is minimal although very dangerous IF it happens. Doctors are prepared to address the onset of shock.

This still sounds strange to me. Why can we get a shock? We have been exposed to our semen hundreds of times before and never gotten a shock. I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice, but still it sounds strange.

[Willem]

I agree Rock.  If there is a risk of shock, then we face that risk continuously.  If we've lived through years of POIS, then it seems unlikely that exposure somewhere else on the body will result in shock and death.  Just MHO as well. 

[Daveman]

Yeah, that part I don't understand very well either.

Also I don't understand why stickin' yourself in the arm or under the tongue is any different than having it in your body from orgasm.

I guess if there's a difference, the shock reaction is also potentially valid within the "new scheme".

[Willem]

Yeah, different organs or sites are employed by the body to introduce allergens to the immune system, so that might increase the risk of shock, but then the concentration is no where near the "real stuff". 

[Daveman]

"Go figure" in any case.    

[Vandemolen]

Today I had another injection. Last time the dilution was 1/1000. Today it was 1/200. About 4 weeks it will be 1/70. At 1/70 there will be a big improvement. So I am looking forward for that appointment.  Normally you achieve 1/70 after 1 year. I will do that after 4 months.

[Vandemolen]

A time ago they injected a person who didn't had POIS, he had no reaction. In the Netherlands it is not allowed to inject a person with semen of another person.

I showed the picture of my hand. The doctor said it is the same reaction of people who have a food allergy. He said that inside the body there are the same red spots.

And the doctor said it is good to have O.'s in a regular basis. So it can trigger the body. It helps the injections.

[Starsky]

Why are you doing it so quick? What do you think about self-administration of these injections?

[Vandemolen]

Why are you doing it so quick? What do you think about self-administration of these injections?

Because I want to get better. Why waiste time?

Do you mean doing the injections yourself? I don't think it's wise. There was a man who had a shock and had to go to the hospital.

[Ccconfucius]

Why are you doing it so quick? What do you think about self-administration of these injections?

agree with vandemolen, with other allergies, the shock is expected during treatment, if you get that shock and not prepared it can mean death.