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Hopeoneday

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Espresso cofee clearing my mind and fatigue after 3-4min
« on: January 27, 2018, 07:31:29 PM »
How can be posible that only 10 drops of espreso cofee improve my sutcked brain, improve my mood, clearing my mind, get releaf from my body heavynes and fatigue and all that only in 3 or 4 min.
When i woke up in morning my body and brain cant fuction properly next 5-6 hours, and no meter what food i eate , only 10 15 drops of espreso cofee can change my body and mind on the odher side.
If I drink to much of cofee i get releef but soon after my body start to shaking and its like isnulin resistence symptomps... and if i drink two or free caps of espreso on one day this can lead me to insomnia for 5 to 6 days.

In pois days cofee for me is very dangeros, because somethin is ataked my nerves ( I think it is trigered by some antigen that complictly mesup metabolic patways in my body) and cafeine is wery bad for me in pois days , bad feeling in complete body because it is all ready ower senzibilie and on the edge.

How can this be posible? What is the reason that my body strugling and need 5-6-7 hours from waking up to get working properly somehow?
« Last Edit: January 27, 2018, 07:40:20 PM by Hopeoneday »
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Re: Espresso cofee clearing my mind and fatigue after 3-4min
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2018, 09:43:48 AM »
Hi HOD,

Many POIS sufferers have reported to be hypersensitive to coffee.  I am one of those - it sends my anxiety level flying over the roof, even with a few sips.  So I never take any.  I use dark chocolate ( 70%)  in very small amount, in place of caffeine, but only before exercising. 

This 10 to 12 drops is maybe just the right amount for you, like one cup is for most people, because your are over-sensitive to caffeine.
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Re: Espresso cofee clearing my mind and fatigue after 3-4min
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2018, 12:06:23 PM »
Hmm you're saying 15 drops of "espresso", I think espresso is the strongest coffee out there so go easy on your self haha

I would suggest you replace espresso with americano you might feel a difference, It helps me to get rid of barin fog for a couple of hours

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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2022, 06:57:25 AM »
https://ltmensclinic.com/link-testosterone-coffee-men-know/

This might be of interest to those who say that coffee has a positive influence on their POIS-symptoms. Over the years i regularly saw posts on that hypothesis.

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Re: Espresso cofee clearing my mind and fatigue after 3-4min
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2022, 09:48:56 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/zh5vvj/coffee_helps_a_lot/

Cofee is still one of the main wepons for pois in my case.
A warning! DO not drink to much of it if you are
sensibile to caffeine, drink it small dose then up..
If you owerdone it, you will get the oposte effect.
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Re: Espresso cofee clearing my mind and fatigue after 3-4min
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2024, 05:11:42 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/zh5vvj/coffee_helps_a_lot/

Cofee is still one of the main wepons for pois in my case.
A warning! DO not drink to much of it if you are
sensibile to caffeine, drink it small dose then up..
If you owerdone it, you will get the oposte effect.

Hi Hopeoneday!

I just wanted to ask if you have ever tried guarana as a comparison, which is also a good source of caffeine. Personally I completely gave up on coffee about half a year ago, even though I had been drinking about 1 mug (6 cups) every day for about 20 years that now I really regret. Sometimes it would alleviate my depression slightly, but most often it would also make it worse later. Coffee would also increase my eye symptoms and the burning gut issue, thus the general inflammation in the body. I was still addicted to it as I just wanted to feel a cursory relief from the incessant mind fog. Nevertheless I am convinced that the negative effect of coffee is not due to caffeine. I can’t say that guarana helped me that much with depression, but it also did not cause any kinds of POIS symptoms. Other caffeine sources like Quarelin or Yerba mate also did not cause such a thing. What really helped me though for at least a short while was a product from Swanson called Kola Nut, Catuaba and Guarana.
https://hu.iherb.com/pr/swanson-full-spectrum-kola-nut-catuaba-and-guarana-90-capsules/117595

This really increased my sexual endurance and it also reduced my POIS symptoms generally. I believe most of the benefit comes from Catuaba, but the combination is still better than an individual supplement. This product contains big Catuaba as a plus, which proved to be more effective for me compared to small Catuaba. While somewhat similar big Catuaba (Trichilia catigua) is known to have a stronger dopaminergic action, while small Catuaba (Erythroxylum catuaba) has a stronger antibacterial effect.
https://thesunlightexperiment.com/herb/catuaba

I haven’t tested an individual Kola nut product yet, but all of these improve NO, which is certainly behind the spectacular libido. Earlier I also often used thiamine mononitrate and Catuaba together to increase my sexual endurance, which is further proof of this.
The cause is probably the senescence of sexual organs and resultant inducible SASP, which also acts as a kind of non-diabetic metabolic syndrome.

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Re: Espresso cofee clearing my mind and fatigue after 3-4min
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2024, 08:53:30 PM »
I agree with the idea of ​​whoever said that it's not the caffeine that's bad, but rather something in the coffee, as I've already bought a pure taurine supplement and one with caffeine together and the latter was much better, too bad it's also much more expensive.

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Re: Espresso cofee clearing my mind and fatigue after 3-4min
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2024, 06:46:35 AM »
Yup I love coffee and feel like it helps my POIS. I do notice it can sometimes cause body aches upon drinking it like other foods though. But mentally I definitely feel really good on coffee. Maybe those reacting to it might have something to do with mould? Idk
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Re: Espresso cofee clearing my mind and fatigue after 3-4min
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2024, 09:13:24 PM »

Yup I love coffee and feel like it helps my POIS…


Same here.
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Re: Espresso cofee clearing my mind and fatigue after 3-4min
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2024, 08:49:10 AM »
Yup I love coffee and feel like it helps my POIS. I do notice it can sometimes cause body aches upon drinking it like other foods though. But mentally I definitely feel really good on coffee. Maybe those reacting to it might have something to do with mould? Idk

I don't think this is due to mould as the quality of the ones we buy are good or at least normal. This effect was also rather consistent over the years, which would mean that practically all packages had mould in them, which is rather unlikely due to the strict quality control. It is true though that I often had similar symptoms when I ate food (e.g. spices) that I suspected to have some mould in them, which was most likely caused by aflatoxin or similar mycotoxins as even putting them in hot water would not resolve this issue. However in case of coffee I am rather sure that it is the roasting process that causes this as consuming coffee cherry or green coffee teas would not result in anything such. I have already mentioned some possible culprits earlier.
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3066.msg46588#msg46588

Lately though I have realized that the answer might be even simpler and it could be due to acrylamide, which is produced during the roasting process. I had similar problems with chicory coffee, which would similarly cause bloodshot eyes, even though drinking unroasted common chicory tea actually helps a little.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicory

I believe my problem generally stems from the fact that POIS in itself causes an elevated systemic inflammatory state, which makes me very-very susceptible to external inflammatory factors like mycotoxins, roast derived toxins and even oxidized oils. Thus avoiding these is even more important for us than it is for the general population.
Lately I considered drinking coffee again. Even though it was not working when I was consuming it in a daily manner, I am quite sure that drug resistance had dwindled in the past half a year and it would probably work again temporarily. Even if coffee turned out to be useful for depression once again, I will only use it as an occasional remedy in the future, thus it may remain more effective.
The cause is probably the senescence of sexual organs and resultant inducible SASP, which also acts as a kind of non-diabetic metabolic syndrome.