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Guts

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Celibacy and hold offs
« on: July 28, 2019, 05:57:48 AM »
Hi

I tried almost everything in the book when it comes to diets, supplements, tweaks, religions (monk) drugs both syntethic and herbal and what have you.

Problem is that i find it harder to stay celibate compared to when i was younger. Also i have excessive growth hormone  productions (metabolic ones like insulin factors almost twice as much as normal human being)which increase my libido more than any other person. 

Because of this reason i have to avoid all carbs all together to avoid hypoglycemia..not only that but my sex drive gets so high i cannot stay celibate for more than 2 weeks. I tried vegan diet which kills my libido but i still produce high levels of growth hormone due to the carbs.

Eventually i starved on that diet and crashed so hard it took me months to recover. I also get mentally ill on vegan diet because of the food intolerances (just like mastocytosis i barely  can eat anything) Now im on a keto diet with eggs, meat raw fat, raw milk,fish etc..pretty much carb free...this also stimulates libido unfortunately(high protein).

Now its summer and its driving me crazy..i get extremely neurotic if i stay celibate for just one week and get severely hyperactive. I also get extreme urges to watch porn which i don't even like and normally avoid like the plague. I tried watching utterly stupid shit like somali chicks in nijabs and burkhas which worked for a while and turned me off. Eventually i just grabbed all technology and stashed it at a family members house so i don't watch anything.

Even without that i still get idiotic strong erections at night in my sleep and get mini pois. This is horror...longest celibacy period i had after my 20ties was 2 years (before that even longer)...last few years i usually manage stay celibate for 1 to 3 months.

Supplements that suppose to turn you into a female actually stimulate my libido as well..like vitex castus, soy, red clover etc.  I tried punching myself in the dick which only worked temporarily...i tried drugs like tryptamines  but almost all of them stimulate my libido as well... even SSRI increase my libido. Some drugs work for symptoms related to allergy like mescaline and tryptamines..but do nothing for alleviating libido and prolonging celibacy, mostly making periods shorter.

I considered castration but one pois sufferer still had pois after castration (even tho it helped someone else). Ice therapy did work ..winter swimming for prolonged periods worked but doesn't have the same positive effects in summer (when it comes to sex drive).

Worst thing is that a milf next door moved in and started flirting as well...i already dumped dozens of woman, pretty much every one of them even the ones i fell in love with. I have no woman friends because of this... i have no friends at all because of fcking pois. Only friend i have is jesus (hesus) i guess.

Lately i have been staying at the lake but all these woman are naked there..not that i conciously think about it but unconciously...most of the time i went near the nearby farm and hang out with horses all day.. feeding them and petting them.. calmed me down somewhat, at least they seem to sense my issues and comfort me.

This is sad im 33 now fucking pois for at least 13 years (probably even longer). Im glad im not suicidally depressed anymore but still. Because of my neurotic tendencies i spend alot of money on shit i don't need...to fill up the void so to speak.

Does someone have idea, tips or something that i haven't considered feel free to reply.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2019, 06:03:35 AM by Guts »

certainlypois2

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Re: Celibacy and hold offs
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2019, 02:26:09 PM »
are you using something for the excessive growth hormones
someone swears by hops supplement for reducing libido.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2019, 02:28:22 PM by certainlypois2 »

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Re: Celibacy and hold offs
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2019, 08:21:26 AM »
I wish there were medications for these issues. I think i try hops essential oil, regular hop kernels wasn't strong enough.

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Re: Celibacy and hold offs
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2019, 10:26:44 AM »
Could it be that you are stuck in an addictive dopamine spiral? If so you have to make that dopamine levels go down whatever it takes (remove things that raises dopamine even the slightest - facebook, music, movies, computer games). Use hypnosis or EFT/TFT therapy to control the mind and practise cold showers. Restraining is a mandatory to get well, thought it can be hard with so many sources of stimuli. You just have to stay away from those stimuli, maybe even if it means moving! Write down daily routines on a paper and stick with them! Get some hobbies/magazines/friends that is as far from sexual  thought as possible. Oh, and a traditional chineese medicine could be helpful. See a TCM-doctor and follow his advice!
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Re: Celibacy and hold offs
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2019, 12:03:09 PM »
Could it be that you are stuck in an addictive dopamine spiral? If so you have to make that dopamine levels go down whatever it takes (remove things that raises dopamine even the slightest - facebook, music, movies, computer games). Use hypnosis or EFT/TFT therapy to control the mind and practise cold showers. Restraining is a mandatory to get well, thought it can be hard with so many sources of stimuli. You just have to stay away from those stimuli, maybe even if it means moving! Write down daily routines on a paper and stick with them! Get some hobbies/magazines/friends that is as far from sexual  thought as possible. Oh, and a traditional chineese medicine could be helpful. See a TCM-doctor and follow his advice!
Could it be that you are stuck in an addictive dopamine spiral? If so you have to make that dopamine levels go down whatever it takes (remove things that raises dopamine even the slightest - facebook, music, movies, computer games). Use hypnosis or EFT/TFT therapy to control the mind and practise cold showers. Restraining is a mandatory to get well, thought it can be hard with so many sources of stimuli. You just have to stay away from those stimuli, maybe even if it means moving! Write down daily routines on a paper and stick with them! Get some hobbies/magazines/friends that is as far from sexual  thought as possible. Oh, and a traditional chineese medicine could be helpful. See a TCM-doctor and follow his advice!

Yeah you are right,  i think i get a dopamine spiral when i have full  pois  or pois lite (orgasm only : erection only). I also get really low serotonin during pois (lab tested) i feel extremely neurotic and everything is an addiction. I get high dopamine because of orgasm/erection and then it drops really low with other neurotransmitters.

yesterday i shut off my internet, computer , phone and television and now i only have books at home. I also emptied my closets of everything that could be stimulating or addicting (medications, drugs, foods, supplements etc). Cold water swimming during winter/autumn/spring works but its summer here also the tap water is relatively warm.

Only thing that worked is giving up on everything and sit in the forest all day

Im going to look into a TCM doctor, thanks for the reply

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Re: Celibacy and hold offs
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2019, 02:57:22 PM »
Another problem with society is getting  dissappointed by turning down  woman and seeing couples together especially ex girlfriends . I get severly depressed i prefer isolation. 14 years of pois (probably longer)...this really destroys you emotionally.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2019, 02:59:32 PM by Guts »