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Bipolar Type II
« on: November 16, 2018, 01:18:35 AM »
In one of my many late-night Google POIS detective adventures, I had an interesting idea. What happens if I take all my POIS symptoms and eliminate the trigger. Ignoring the fact that feeling like garbage comes after ejaculation, I decided to just find what might cause a depressive episode that lasts roughly 5-7 days and occurs with relative frequency: the answer? Bipolar Type II (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_II_disorder?wprov=sfla1(.

I understand that many POIS sufferers have constant symptoms, but because that has never been my personal experience, I chose to ignore it. I understand that this diagnosis is highly unlikely because of the nature of the illness and how it seems to be centered around sexual activity, but I think we know far too little about POIS
and far too little about mental disorders to dismiss the possibility.

I know a lot of us want to dismiss psychs because it's such a physically intense condition we deal with, but I think it's important to remember that everything we experience passes through our brain and what goes on in the brain can color how our body reacts to our environment.

So my question is, who here has tried, for a significant length of time, treatments for bipolar disorder that are not antidepressants? I'm specifically talking about Lamotrigine and Lithium. In addition, has anyone found any benefit to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy?
Symptoms last 6-7 days. Onset of muscle weakness after 30 seconds. Symptoms include: brain fog, fatigue, depression, pale skin/dark circles under eyes,  digestive problems, difficulty taking a full breath, irritability. NONE of these are present out of POIS.

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Re: Bipolar Type II
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2019, 03:04:22 PM »
You should not try Bipolar Medicine it make pois musch worse. SEROQUEL, Laroxyl, Depakot, Injection haldol those drugs make me feel like Zombie, Just eat, sleep, jerking off repeat. It's an auto immune that create neruological symptoms almost like Bipolar Manic Depressive or Schizoaffective.

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Re: Bipolar Type II
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2019, 02:03:24 AM »
You should not try Bipolar Medicine it make pois musch worse. SEROQUEL, Laroxyl, Depakot, Injection haldol those drugs make me feel like Zombie, Just eat, sleep, jerking off repeat. It's an auto immune that create neruological symptoms almost like Bipolar Manic Depressive or Schizoaffective.

I agree wiyh you all antipsychotics made me feel worse
POIS of 10 yrs now

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Re: Bipolar Type II
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2019, 07:21:12 PM »
I've suffered POIS badly for over a year.  I have also recently been prescribed with Lamictal for a suspected mood disorder (if you ask me I don't have one, but I've been unmotivated for a while now so willing to try something).  I am still on the lowest dosage (25mg) and supposed to taper up into 50 and then 100mg.  Miraculously in the last few weeks (4 or 5 O episodes) I have had no physical or cognitive POIS symptoms except for painless rashing on my balls from contact with my own semen.

I don't know yet if Lamictal is the hero because I've also been doing Vitamin D, Niacin, and Ephedrine.  Gonna  eliminate everything but Lamictal to see.  Will report back.

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Re: Bipolar Type II
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2019, 08:30:40 PM »
Anti-psychotics only increase inflammation by reducing neurotransmitter uptake. POIS lowers neurotransmitter release in general. My POIS is very neurological (symptomwise )and lenghty.

Anti-psychotics make you into a zombie and you won't notice it until you crash. Your life just slowIy erodes away.. believe me eventually you get sick and tired of the sedation and numbness. Even if you feel like shit its better to feel yourself again.

I Was on duloxetine with lithium and gabapentin for a while. These drugs have similar effects and affinity but are less anti-convulsant than lamictal. Lithium is more of a convulsant at higher dosages, they say it's anti-convulsant but many many people experience otherwise. I did felt tons of energy in lithium like physically but holy shit the side effects.

I peaked on 900 mg of lithium for over 2 weeks...side effects were horrible..i had to get out of bed and piss every 15 to 30 mins, i had to drink tons of water every day. It's almost impossible to sleep. The duloxetine seems to potentiate the lithium and the combination made me eventually feel like shit. My kidneys also felt messed up because of all the drinking, sodium inbalance and lithium build up. Also if you take lithium for months you have to do bloodwork every week to see if you hit therapeutic levels because toxic levels are close to therapeutic levels.

Last summer i had severe manic episode where i was hyperactive coupled with depression..i tried lithium again but didn't seem to help altho it did supress visions/800 kmph thoughts i was having...almost my whole life with mental illness except its short term and switches from depression to manic outbursts. In worst cases psuedohallucinations(no real hallucinations), visions, depersonalization, personality change, thoughts about "other lives" so to speak. This all coupled together made me suicidal for years.. from 21 to 29 i counted every day and told myself to hang on one more day. POIS made everything so much worse. I received no help aside from a prescription (above).

Dunno why i deserve this.. pedophiles and rapist seem to roam free and you are stuck with this shitty disease. For sure i'm going to never return to this planet if reincarnation is real.

Alot of people experience very good anti depressant effects with low dosages of lithium like 25mg to 50 mg daily. I have positive experiences with heavier anti-convulsants usually psychiatric benzodiazapines. Other positive results i had were anti-convulsant tryptamines.

Only solution so far is complete abstaining...i don't know why i'm responding i kinda gave up on finding a solution.
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Re: Bipolar Type II
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2019, 12:57:29 AM »
Guts Lamictal is not an anti-psychotic. It's a bipolar medication that treats the depression phase of bipolar.
It's also a glutamate and aspartate inhibitor targeting sodium channels rather than calcium channels such as in gabapentin.

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Re: Bipolar Type II
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2019, 07:13:07 AM »
They use anti-psychotics for certain type bipolar disorders. I never said lamictal is anti-psychotic however lithium is also used in  conjunction with anti-psychotics and lithium is a mood stabilizer like lamictal..the op question was also about lithium and the other dude talked about anti-psychotics. Anti-psychotics are also used as sedatives and mood stabilizer.

Duloxetine works on sodium , calcium and trp channels and much more it's marketed as SNRI but its more than that. Gabapentin and duloxetine are prescribed for any type of severe neuropaty . Usually duloxetine can trigger manic episodes hence the lithium. Lithium targets similar receptors like lamictal and more.

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Re: Bipolar Type II
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2019, 02:09:54 PM »
I think I'll wait for OpeisDad to report on using lamictal alone then I'll try it my self.

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Re: Bipolar Type II
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2019, 03:00:29 AM »
I was first diagnosed with bipolar type 2.  I don't know now wether it was "just" POIS, but i'm taking lamoctrygine for 12 years now.  It helped me with depression, but not with the anxiety part.  POIS is still very much of a reality to me.

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Re: Bipolar Type II
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2019, 07:51:57 AM »
In one of my many late-night Google POIS detective adventures, I had an interesting idea. What happens if I take all my POIS symptoms and eliminate the trigger. Ignoring the fact that feeling like garbage comes after ejaculation, I decided to just find what might cause a depressive episode that lasts roughly 5-7 days and occurs with relative frequency: the answer? Bipolar Type II (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_II_disorder?wprov=sfla1(.

I understand that many POIS sufferers have constant symptoms, but because that has never been my personal experience, I chose to ignore it. I understand that this diagnosis is highly unlikely because of the nature of the illness and how it seems to be centered around sexual activity, but I think we know far too little about POIS
and far too little about mental disorders to dismiss the possibility.

I know a lot of us want to dismiss psychs because it's such a physically intense condition we deal with, but I think it's important to remember that everything we experience passes through our brain and what goes on in the brain can color how our body reacts to our environment.

So my question is, who here has tried, for a significant length of time, treatments for bipolar disorder that are not antidepressants? I'm specifically talking about Lamotrigine and Lithium. In addition, has anyone found any benefit to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy?


The pois may be unleashed by a psychosomatic reaction. Consider that there are men ... as in my case who are developing pois by just thinking about a woman and receiving an erection ... without pre-seminal liquid, in my case I developed pois at 14 years. but I had my nervous system overloaded, since I had been diagnosed with anxiety disorder.
We must begin to bring psychosomatic theories and hypotheses to the treatment. We know that the symptoms are real and physical since we live them, but we have to analyze why reason starts. I have read that there may be a connection between premature ejaculation and pois or some event that triggers this. For now we know that it is due to excess or overload of the nervous system.
We know something ... our problem is really physical ... and is very associated with inflammation of the vagus nerve. Notice how it impacts on MY HYPOTHESIS IS THAT THERE IS AN NERVOUS LOAD THAT CAN BE PRODUCED BY:

MAINLY "CHRONIC STRESS":

* EXCESS OF MASTURBATION AND PORNOGRAPHY.
* INJURY OR HIT OF THE VAGO NERVE.
* ANCIOUS PEOPLE. NEUROTICS WITH SOME KIND OF COMPULSIVE OBSESSIVE DISORDER.
treatment:
* deflate the vagus nerve.
* balance the chemical system and neurostramisores after the disaster caused by inflammation with many treatments given here.

important:
Look for the cause that triggered you.
sexual excesses, stress, anxious or obsessive problems.
Indeed, our experiences or, rather, the way of understanding or assuming day-to-day problems, can lead us to suffer from what is currently known as chronic stress. It is true that maintaining a certain tension can be positive in trying to solve the everyday problems that we can all face, but our inability to deactivate this physiological response will cause the problems to appear soon. This involves the activation of two pathways that start from the brain: Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Adrenal Axis / Brain-Intestine Axis.

 

Chronic stress (caused by great tragedies or overloads maintained over time, including those of physical origin), can greatly influence our immune system, although the mechanisms are not entirely clear, they involve the activation of the hypothalamic-pituitary axis -adrenal. The main response of the brain to stress is the increase in the production of hormones (CRF) that travel from the hypothalamus to the pituitary gland where it induces the release of another hormone (ACTH) which, in turn travels through the bloodstream to the adrenal glands to release cortisol - and adrenaline -, which is a potent immune system suppressant and a precursor to inflammation.

 

This type of chronic stress could have disastrous effects on the body and brain. Chronic adrenaline and cortisol exposure could be related to cardiovascular diseases, visceral obesity, high blood pressure, cancer, immune system problems, diabetes, osteoporosis, deterioration of intestinal flora and increased intestinal permeability. Initially cortisol levels inhibit macrophage activation by blocking the production and action of inflammatory cytokines that initiate the immune response, something essential to "cut off" the inflammatory cascade that starts in response to an aggression, but an exposure Permanent high levels of cortisol could induce desensitization of these glucocorticoid receptors in immune cells by altering control over inflammation and increasing the production of inflammatory cytokines.

 

But it was for whatever reason, the increase of these pro-inflammatory molecules that reach the brain, could damage neurons, and may be behind a series of psychological disorders, as already said. Chronic stress also causes an increase in glutamate in the brain. Glutamate is a neurotransmitter that, in excess, is known to cause migraines, depression and anxiety. On the other hand, high cortisol levels chronically reduce the hippocampus (part of the brain responsible for the formation of new memories of the events experienced