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demografx

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SLEEP: a treatment for POIS?
« on: October 31, 2018, 05:27:07 PM »
SLEEP has always been important to me as an adjunct to my main treatment of testosterone.

Once, on POIS:Day Zero (the day of POIS onset), I slept - - or kept my eyes closed - - day and night, almost round the clock, including *forced sleep* with Benadryl (but only taken as directed). The result: a much, much easier POIS:Day One.

This is not easy to implement, I know, especially with work, school, family, responsibilities, etc. But even short snoozes/naps help me.

Any other similar experiences?


« Last Edit: October 31, 2018, 08:15:59 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: SLEEP: a treatment for POIS?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2018, 12:01:09 PM »
Yes more sleep gives me faster recovery times and less intensive POIS. But..this needs to be sleep, laying in bed awake doesn't work. When I put too many blankets on top of me and getting too warm as a results it has the opposite effect, I can wake up completely wrecked. I suspect the sleeping period being beneficial has to do with trigger avoidance. You barely move in your sleep, you are not eating, temperature is pretty stable. Perhaps hormones could play a role here, I don't know. I don't see how it could be a treatment though.
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demografx

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Re: SLEEP: a treatment for POIS?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2018, 12:23:40 PM »
Thanks, Muon.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: SLEEP: a treatment for POIS?
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2018, 02:23:46 AM »
Agree. The recovery is shorter if I have a good night of sleep.
Bodybuilders recommand to have good sleep after training and less stress to optimize testosterone levels, reduce cortisol and then increase muscle growth.
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Re: SLEEP: a treatment for POIS?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2019, 05:08:00 AM »
I noticed that my brain switches to a slightly tense state as soon as I wake up. I'm starting to think that the brain is in an overactive state. The sleeping will help because it calms down the brain.

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Re: SLEEP: a treatment for POIS?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2019, 09:43:34 PM »
Have you considered that you might be in a De-realized state? (known as depersonalization/derealization disorder).  I think I have it at least to some degree - the feeling as if one is living through a dream.  I did not think this before, but POIS may even be a manifestation of derealization - traumatic events that we underwent during childhood causing a chronically heightened fight/flight response, where we learnt this depersonalization as a coping method/strategy for survival, and since it has been so chronic, that now we dont even realize that we are frozen in this chronic fight/flight mode.   

I noticed that my brain switches to a slightly tense state as soon as I wake up. I'm starting to think that the brain is in an overactive state. The sleeping will help because it calms down the brain.
POIS Free, 2+ yrs (occasional/predictive lapses)
Pois symptoms: Peripheral (Skin: Urticaria, dryness, pale blotchy skin), Exasperation of: [Nerve weakness, Muscle weakness + Mental (CNS: Brain Fog, Irritation, Isolation, Speech lethargy, Anxiety)].
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Re: SLEEP: a treatment for POIS?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2019, 11:16:03 PM »
b_jim was discussing derealization here in 2007!
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business