Kegels

[traderwithpois]

Hey guys, I have started to exercise my kegel pelvic floor muscles.  I believe that i have had weak pelvic floor for over a decade since i have a lot of involuntary tensing up while ejaculating/orgasming.  I am hopeful that strengthened pelvic floor muscles will allow for stronger erection, more intense orgasm, more powerful ejaculation, lasting longer (no more premature ejaculation), but more importantly I hope that it will allow for more natural and healthy ejaculation and orgasm.

I remember when i was a teenager, I had an easier time edging and lasting a long time.  I remember it felt like "collecting" or "building up" the neurotransmitters until the moment felt just right, then i would have a truly powerful orgasm and the right hormone/neurotransmitter release would occur.   I haven't felt that in a long time, my premature ejaculation gets in the way and my penis tenses up at the wrong times.

I suspect that these weak, improper, premature ejaculations result in tiring me out, and aggravating POIS

I will update here on my results from kegel exercises

[traderwithpois]

So far I have had mild/moderately positive results.

I am taking my time while masturbating.  I do kegels even while masturbating, when these pelvic muscles are exercised more regularly it makes it easier to relax (so that I do not tense up and premature ejaculate).  This gives more time for the "electric chills" to build up.  Also I wait until it feels like the semen has "loaded up" properly up through my urethra (fills up like a firehose) and then when it feels right I allow it to ejaculate/ orgasm. 

My orgasms are still weak overall.

But when I do all of the above, and do not tense up at ejaculation, it produces a more enjoyable orgasm and I hope to return to having the "after glow" that I remember from my youth.  I am not feeling quite as tired or exhausted / depressed the next day.

I will keep practicing this and follow up soon

[Danmh]

Does this way of masturbating still result in POIS-symptoms every time?

[traderwithpois]

Does this way of masturbating still result in POIS-symptoms every time?

Too early to tell.  But, i believe that when i have a "premature" orgasmless ejaculation, i immediately feel exhausted afterwards.

My hypothesis is that if i can have a normal orgasm that results in a healthy afterglow, then this won't lead to POIS.

I will follow up soon with some results

[traderwithpois]

Has anyone else noticed that when you have a "healthy" style ejaculation (with orgasm, not premature, not tensed up), it leads to a sore penis in the hours afterwards (or even day afterwards).  I believe this soreness to be healthy

When I have an "unhealthy" or premature ejaculation where I empty my balls without any pleasure, and the semen is thicker, my penis is not "sore" in the hours afterwards but I am left feeling exhausted.

[kasra]

I have a lot of back related problems too and my doctor has prescribed me kegel,and I have permature ejaculation,did you get any results from kegel?

[BrainIsJelly]

Has anyone else noticed that when you have a "healthy" style ejaculation (with orgasm, not premature, not tensed up), it leads to a sore penis in the hours afterwards (or even day afterwards).  I believe this soreness to be healthy

When I have an "unhealthy" or premature ejaculation where I empty my balls without any pleasure, and the semen is thicker, my penis is not "sore" in the hours afterwards but I am left feeling exhausted.

Have you looked into the link between POIS and delayed-onset muscle soreness which was explored in this study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8392034/  I think it?s somehow related to your case but not sure

[FernandoPOIS]

I noticed that when I have orgasm with a great erection I have no symptoms.
Many POIS sufferers have anxiety and have difficulty maintaining a strong erection and often experience premature ejaculation.
In my case, as I never had symptoms when orgasm happens with traditional sexual intercourse (with a partner), I always suspected that there could be some relationship with adequate blood flow to the genital region.
I decided to do some experiments with masturbation. I was very relaxed in a very calm and private environment and I maintained a good erection for a few minutes before ejaculating and I didn't have any symptoms after orgasm, not even the traditional fatigue that practically everyone has after an orgasm (even those who don't suffer from POIS) . As I use Sertraline 50 mg (1 x a day), ejaculation doesn't come as fast as if I were without the medication. So I suggest that you try to start therapy to reduce anxiety, preferably with medication that increases serotonin availability.
It's not a definitive certainty because I had these orgasms with 1 week intervals between them. Maybe if you increase the frequency the result may be different.

Another important piece of information is that my POIS symptoms started when I stopped playing soccer. I used to play 2 or 3 times a week and it went down to once a week and I ended up stopping playing permanently because I had a back injury that took a while to treat. Surely back when I played soccer, I should have had a stronger pelvic floor.