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whateverestest

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Psychological cause theory. (anxiogenic POIS)
« on: May 01, 2020, 02:51:35 AM »
I've been looking at this forum for a moment, and I see that most of the subjects cover biological causes of POIS. However I wonder if in my case the cause is not psychological indeed.

My theory in a nutshell. In high school I was looking for a reason why I don't get along that well with many of the people I was in contact with because of the school and 'social life'. Due to lack of time at that time, I had less time for masturbation and I once noticed that I feel different and get along with people better. I made a conclusion then that abstaining from masturbation's O, made that happen. I even had a theory back then that most people don't O, or do it very very rarely (at least those 'socially-self-confident'). It was up to a point where I didn't even bother trying to improve my social skills, because I thought it's all 99% related to O abstinence anyway, so why bother trying, when if I just don't O and in couple days everything will be back to normal.

Of course after years passed I've noticed that it's mostly me who has this 'feature', and nobody else reacts to O the way I do in the following days.

My theory currently on this situation:
- Abstaining from O has some psychological effects on everybody
- I was lacking some overall social skills from the beggining
- I like everybody else got some of  those positive effects of O abstinence, which (in my case) enabled me to do some social interactions with far more ease
- I wouldn't probably notice that much of a difference (in O abstinence or it's lack) if I wasn't lacking some of the essential social skills from the start
- I started to conjoin some kind of underlying 'abstinence feeling' with self confidence, and started looking for more distinctions between 'me on O abstinence' vs 'me on no O abstinence' to keep the theory that I thought was good at the time alive (which deepened the issue)
- I was living with the theory (that O abstinence is the main motor for social skills among ppl) fora couple years of my adolescence, which further prevented me from practicing my social skills in normal every day life ('why would I practice them if I have them, I just have to abstaine from O')


Now I'm in far process of psychological therapy, but I think that really a lot is yet before of me. Sometimes in worse moments I tend to think that psychological causes are bullshit and this are probably some neurotrasmitter abnormalities related to O, or some other biological (physical not psychological) stuff. Some of the arguments for that might be that I think I notice colors sharper when I abstaine from O (surfaces look more like in a good movie), and when I don't I see a lot of like stains everywhere, I mean I'm more prone to noticing bad things like stains or the walls or sth like this (and it's not a matter of bad mood, I can be in good mood and be more prone to noticing them as well I think). On the other hand that as well might be something psychologicaly related, like yet another difference my brain learned to notice to keep my adolescence-started theory on O abstinence alive.
(like all the differences in mood/behavior that I tend to see and which I wrote about in the forum - anoxigenic effect; paradoxically doing more stuff while NOT abstaining from O, but doing it less efficiently then when I abstain and so on...)

What do you think? Has anybody dealt with the case from more psychological point of view and can share results? What kind of therapy and so on.?



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Re: Psychological cause theory. (anxiogenic POIS)
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2020, 09:54:58 AM »
Interestingly on abstinence, I notice the same-being more social and easier to connect with people and overall my social skills improve and I notice more vividness and sharpness in things and overall things look more pleasant when I abstain and I notice and react to negative things less on abstinence-as if gut microbiome or neurotransmitters change when abstaining thus my perception changes.

Another effect I notice on abstinence is that when looking at myself and my muscles I look bigger and my muscles look bigger and more pumped up-both physically as my muscles are more pumped up on abstinence and also my perception of my physique changes to perceiving myself as more muscular and for a week post-orgasm people of my size or bigger look more intimidating but on abstinence often people look smaller in my perception-the size of people doesn't change but the perception changes.

Anyone else?

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Re: Psychological cause theory. (anxiogenic POIS)
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2020, 03:34:43 PM »
Another effect I notice on abstinence is that when looking at myself and my muscles I look bigger and my muscles look bigger and more pumped up-both physically as my muscles are more pumped up on abstinence and also my perception of my physique changes to perceiving myself as more muscular and for a week post-orgasm people of my size or bigger look more intimidating but on abstinence often people look smaller in my perception-the size of people doesn't change but the perception changes.

Anyone else?

I got simillar perception change regarding my and others bodies. That's for sure. Also what you mentione - 'reacting to negative things less on abstinence' I wouldn't put it any better. After O like up to 5-6 days I react to small things sometimes very angrily, or take them very personally. I get easily offended, and more often tend to look for a second meaning to a person's words (negative meaning).

Thanks for reply man. Glad to know I'm not alone with those specific symptomes. Maybe someome with more experience on this forum will see this and guide us to some specific forum thread when we can find discussion on this specific symptoms...?

ps. Let me guess do you have a less tolerance for chaos after O? Tendency to clean things up, something like 'need to improve the world around me' attitude? Meaning, less tolerance for how the things actually are (after O).