Nutmeg (CAUTION!)

[Going less Crazy]

Guys, I just had to create a topic on nutmeg.  After taking niacin and "O'ing" I still notice POIS about 50%, but after taking nutmeg (caution, can kill you), the symptoms seem to vanish, all my symptoms seem to vanish and in fact I feel normal.   You're supposed get a drug high off of nutmeg, but when I take it to counteract POIS I feel normal, all the negative symptoms seem to vanish.  I would just like to find out what is in this "nutmeg" that greatly alleviates my brain symptoms, and why it works so much better than anything for me.  I only take it the day I "O".

I "O'd" about 2 hours after taking nutmeg without symptoms, and I had previous symptoms before that.  So something within this compound prevents the reaction, or prevents me from feeling the reaction and puts me at ease.  I really don't know what it is in the nutmeg that is doing this and would like to find out.  My question is why does this relieve me so much more than anything else?  And... caution while taking nutmeg because it can kill you.  I take about 1/2 of a teaspoon.  For now it works both after orgasm and before orgasm.

[LAPOISSE]

Hum interesting  ; It's probably stimulates catecholamine and serotonine(could meen your pois is linked to low adrenals) ; it's hase very close action than mescaline or amphetamine ; But dosage could make a big diference.

Do you have ADHD?

How long have you been using that ? Do you feel better even days after taking it ?

[demografx]

And... caution while taking nutmeg because it can kill you.  

GLC, thank you for pointing that out!

[poisperson]

That?s really interesting. I?m deep in POIS now (day 4 of a the 5 day struggle) and the missus has just confirmed we do have nutmeg, so I might try a little...though I suspect, as with niacin, it?s most effective taken before O, right?

[Vincent M]

I'm curious if nutmeg improves your cognitive impairment while in POIS, goingcrazy.

The main effect it has for me is a reduction of physical pain and also brings about a barely noticeable reduction in anxiety. In addition it makes me sleepy and somewhat unmotivated. Keep in mind that the hallucinogenic and other recreational effects of nutmeg usually only occur at doses upwards of about 25 grams(about 2 tablespoons of powder or 2 to 5 whole nutmeg nuts).

The concern of nutmeg being fatal might be overstated(although it is better to err on the safe side)

"In literature, cases of nutmeg abuse have been described repeatedly, but only one fatal case of poisoning was reported [1]. In the present case, myristicin (4 microg/ml) was detected for the first time in the postmortal serum of a 55-year-old woman. Identification was achieved with the aid of UV-VIS spectroscopy and TLC; for quantification, HPLC was used. Because also flunitrazepam (0.072 microg/ml) was found, death had probably been due to the combined toxic effect of both substances. From 1996 to 1998, in a series of cases, seven poisonings with nutmeg were recorded by the Erfurt Poison Information Centre. Even where higher doses (20-80 g of powder) had been ingested, a life-threatening situation was never observed. In one of these cases, a myristicin blood level of 2 microg/ml was measured 8h after ingestion of two to three tablespoonful of nutmeg powder (approx. 14-21 g, or 280-420 mg/kg)."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11343860

Flunitrazepam is a very serious benzodiazapine drug similar to xanax and has gained a reputatation as a "date rape" drug. It's easy to wind up in a coma from an overdose of it.

There does seem to be another reported case of a nutmeg fatality, but I couldn't find a reliable source to verify it. It doesn't seem all that detailed so I'm skeptical about whether nutmeg was the only actual cause of death:

"The only fatality ever attributed to the spice occurred when an eight-yearold boy ate two whole nutmegs, became comatose, and died less than 24 hours later."
http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/bulletin/bulletin_1966-01-01_4_page003.html#s005

One of our members did seem to have a bad reaction after eating only one whole nutmeg nut, but he didn't mention if he had a pre-existing condition or whether he was taking any medications: "after 4 hrs I started to feel very weird, totally high, my eyes were very red, I felt like my head is exploding from the pressure and it became worse, I had strong heartbeats, BP and the worst was an ongoing weird feeling of Anxiety.
On that day my wife and I went for a dinner at my parents house; having a conversation with my uncle I realize that he talks and I am totally out, I do not have a clue what he was talking about and I do not remember even the sentence before, I was totally blackout. I told him that I am can't follow him and I feel bad, then we went to hospital, all checks were good and it took me 2 days to totally recover."
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg345996#msg345996

A while back I ate 3 whole nutmegs which I guessed was around 20 to 25 grams and it just made me really nauseous for the afternoon into the night. However I have no problems with blood pressure or heart disease. Seems like blood pressure or heart issues would be the main reason to avoid nutmeg. I'd imagine that 1/2 a teaspoon would be safe for the vast majority of people assuming no serious pre-existing health conditions or drug interactions.

I'm not saying that we're exercising too much caution about nutmeg. I just wanted to give an accurate picture of the available data.

[demografx]

Vincent M., thank you so much for your sober review of nutmeg! I wasn't aware of this possibility of 'over caution.'

[Going less Crazy]

Guys, I plan on taking about a pea-sized amount (relatively harmless) of nutmeg every day.  It feels like it is replacing something in my brain I have lost long ago... due to stress or whatever.  It may even be its anti-depressant affect that is helping me, also the anti-inflammatory affect.  So I will take about a pea-sized amount every morning for however long and than I will "O", and I will post about the "O" to see if it has helped.  I mean, if this could work I can see myself taking about a pea-sized amount of nutmeg every day to avoid this misery.  It takes (supposedly) about 2 tablespoons to get high, so I think a pea-sized amount, relatively 1/16 of a teaspoon is fine.  I just can't wait until the day when I am out of my head if you know what I mean... I don't want to always think and worry about this condition and I just want it to be over already...lol...damn pois

* and Lapoisse, I don't have ADHD, I usually take nutmeg about half the time I "O" and the good feeling lasts for about a day and than the POIS is relatively over

[sameer7777]

Going crazy where to get nut meg ........ Pls advice z?

[demografx]

Going crazy where to get nut meg ........ Pls advice z?

According to some sources, nutmeg is extremely poisonous if given through an I.V. (intravenous line). Nutmeg can also cause death if too much is ingested. There have been two reported deaths by nutmeg.

Please be careful and get advice from your doctor. Please.

A link to some nutmeg facts:
http://www.helium.com/items/2167762-interesting-facts-about-nutmeg

[asdfdoc]

what does nutmeg do?

[Going less Crazy]

So I've been taking nutmeg, less than 1/16 tsp. per day every day.  I get enough of the nutmeg to feel what I would call "normal", not high.  The one interesting thing that I've noticed is that my brain fog is relatively gone.  Every time I exercise, whether in POIS or not and ever since I developed POIS, usually by playing basketball, etc. I would get this brain fog behind my eyes.  Feel like their is absence of something behind my eyes or pressure in my frontal lobe.  But ever since taking nutmeg I haven't had this brain fog, and I can exercise unlimitely without feeling bad afterwards or this brain fog, this is just after taking a little less than 1/16 teaspoon nutmeg every morning.  The only bad thing I notice about nutmeg is that I now sweat in my sleep.  That is why I am lowering the dosage until the affects last until I sleep, so maybe I won't sweat it out.

I also recently Orgasmed while on this <1/16 teaspoon nutmeg.  I did experience POIS and it was still pretty bad.  I think I need about 1/8 tsp. of nutmeg to resolve POIS, but I didn't take it, just going to push threw this one.  So 1/8 tsp. after "O" helps, also <1/16 teaspoon every morning helps reduce brain fog and contributes to a good mood.  

And I also forgot to mention that I can eat sweets and feel relatively no bad mental reaction to it while on nutmeg.