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koko

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help me! Do i have POIS ?
« on: November 13, 2012, 01:10:19 PM »
I did allergy testing seed
With sperm from two examination
Do I have pois?
This image from the inspection

http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img838/3920/291020121437.jpg

Nightingale

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Re: help me! Do i have POIS ?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2012, 01:23:30 PM »
Tell us about how you feel after orgasm.  That's usually how we know if you have POIS or not.  Hard to say if you have it from looking at this picture, we are not physicians
Turmeric and Rosemary 30-45 minutes before orgasm for anti-inflammatory and immune support has helped me a lot. Faster and easier than niacin approach.

koko

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Re: help me! Do i have POIS ?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2012, 01:57:36 PM »
5 years I feel after an orgasm:

Prime vague, can not think, memory is not good, emotional and physical weakness, depression, fatigue.

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Re: help me! Do i have POIS ?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2012, 02:01:17 PM »
5 years I feel after an orgasm:

Prime vague, can not think, memory is not good, emotional and physical weakness, depression, fatigue.

Are you dizzy? Do you feel nauseous? (like you want to get sick). Do you frequently feel itchy?
Does your nose run or become blocked following an O?
Do you feel more anxious after an O?

It sounds like you have POIS but it would be great if you could describe all your symptoms in as much detail as possible.

koko

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Re: help me! Do i have POIS ?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2012, 02:28:44 PM »
I feel after an orgasm
I do not feel dizzy, I feel confused, my head is very weak and unstable and heavy. I can not understand things.
I do not feel sick, but my body is very weak, hard to stand up. My muscles ache, I feel more pain in the legs, hard to talk, hard mental weakness, my depression got worse after orgasm, I do not feel itchy body or even blocked, only dry inside. I always feel tired. I want to sleep for many hours
After about two weeks I was without orgasm, the symptoms a bit weaker and I feel a little better.

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Re: help me! Do i have POIS ?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2012, 03:45:33 PM »
Yes it's definitly looks like POIS symtoms ;

the "cognitive" we all talk about seems pretty specific ; hard to think clearly, hard to talk, feeling not a ease in social situation ; it's like the transmission of informations in the brain are slowed down(neurotramitors ?) ....the most frustating is you are clearly conscious you are not really yourself and you know how much better you could be ;  I spend a lot energy trying to act normally wich make me more tired and depressed.

I can't find any other condition wich share that kind of symtoms ; most of what we call cognitive symtoms are "loss of memory" like alzheimer or other disease usualy concerning old people....Can't find a conditon with temporary decline of mental abilities...

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Re: help me! Do i have POIS ?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2012, 05:22:50 PM »
Yeah. You definitely have POIS. Even just considering that you feel physically weak after an orgasm. I have similar symptoms to you seeing as you feel both physically and cognitively weak after an orgasm. I also get some other symptoms like joint pain and eye burning. Niacin has been a fairly popular treatment here, but you have to be careful with your dosage and make sure you follow the procedure exactly correctly. Fenugreek + tea/garlic has been a reliable treatment for me that improves all of my POIS symptoms, which I've been taking for more than a year. The link to my treatment summary is below this post if you want to see the treatments I've used in detail.
Taking ginger tea, no wheat, fenugreek+green tea/garlic, saw palmetto, niacin, boswellia, huperzine, B complex and nutmeg. See my treatment summary post for more info: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=81.msg3513#msg3513

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Re: help me! Do i have POIS ?
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2012, 10:24:11 PM »
Your test looks positive. So, as you already know, you have POIS.
POIS since I was about 15. 1.75 years of desens and I'm now about 80% POIS free. Still working through best practices for maintaining my immunity and administering my injections with my doctor. Email me if you have tips or questions!

koko

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Re: help me! Do i have POIS ?
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2012, 10:45:59 AM »
Thank you guys

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I have low Testosterone and POIS
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2012, 11:26:53 AM »

I am 55 years old and started with all the pois sintoms (5) years ago, I was diagnosed with low T and I am under testosterone replacement, I am using Androgel 1.62% everyday but this isn't helping, it looks like it is worst becasue during sleep I have noctural emissions every night and the next day I feel all the POIS sintoms, extremely fatigue, sinus, itchy body, irritated eyes, sleeppy all the time, dificult to concentrate, muscles ache, eye burning, dificult to talk, etc, etc,.. my T levels are ok now and I tought that this was going to be the solution to the pois sintoms becasue is something I didn't have it in the past, few days ago I had an orgasm without eyaculation by using the Tantric thecniques but pois was even 2 or 3 times worst, I read that it is possible to have an orgasm without eyaculation at all, not even retrograde eyaculation does anybody knows if this is possible? I am trying whatever I read or learn to solve the problem but so far no solution, for now I am using the testosterone evryother day to reduce the nocturnal emmisions.  Thanks, Mario

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Re: help me! Do i have POIS ?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2012, 09:28:11 PM »
My endocrinologist said my early testosterone  failure was due to injectables, because they  "spike" in and out of the system.

My TRT is daily, (365x a year), -- 2 Androderm patches, 4mg each -- testosterone patches applied to the skin -- this creates a more natural, round-the-clock infusion of testestorene, mimicking the way the body naturally distributes testosterone evenly/steadily throughout the body.

Androderm vs Androgel 1.62%:
http://www.drugs.com/answers/4mg-androderm-patch-va-switched-1-62-androgel-1-617274.html
http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Nutrition/Q223318.html
« Last Edit: November 18, 2012, 09:39:23 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: help me! Do i have POIS ?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2012, 12:10:30 AM »
koko, Welcome To The POIS Forum!

Please help yourself to a wide variety of POIS information sources for your study:
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Click here to see Mat780's excellent YouTube POIS Channel.   Mat's YouTube videos include (1) our great new April 12 POIS TV Documentary. A must-see. And (2) The Learning Channel documentary, featuring our forum member "Animus".

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http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg149009#msg149009

"Girlwind" has created an excellent POIS Video:
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Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome "POIS": Case report

Authors:
Abdalla M Attia*, Magda H Al-Ziny, Hossam A Yasien
*Corresponding author: Andrology Unit, Minoufiya University, Shibin El Kom, Eygpt

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CASE REPORT
Postorgasm Illness Syndrome - A Spectrum of Illnesses
Jane Ashby, MRCP, and David Goldmeier, MRCP
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5. British Medical Journal Case Report, 2010

Case study by Dr. Selwyn Dexter of a patient with a headache-featured POIS symptom treated with progesterone/norethisterone.
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New York Times article,

January 20, 2009
Mind
Sex and Depression: In the Brain, if Not the Mind
By RICHARD A. FRIEDMAN, M.D.
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POIS also appears in credible medical sources such as the Journal of Sexual Medicine (Dr. Waldinger's study), British Medical Journal (Dr. Selwyn Dexter's study), and wikipedia:
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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

koko

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Re: help me! Do i have POIS ?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2012, 03:30:43 PM »
Thank you demografx

Is there anyone else who can comment on the picture of the test?