Vitamin B Complex Member Trials Outline
--Good Results--
Kurtosis: Has had reliable improvement with Now Foods Coenzymated Complex.
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg5210#msg5210 Ninjagasm: "I started taking a Vitamin B-100 Complex 100mg for the fatigue before I orgasmed and two tablets of Lecithin 120 mg for the brain fog before and after orgasm. Been "cured" ever since."
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg401285#msg401285ad75: "I then focused on ways to nourish the adrenals and settled on boosting my levels of Vitamin B, as well as taking a good multivitamin to bring any other possible imbalances into line. Two and a half months later, I feel great! I can have up to two O's a night without suffering serious symptoms if I take a multivitamin in the morning, a Supermalt in the morning and another Supermalt in the evening, just before bed. Three O's start to make me feel pretty rough the next day, but my recovery time is vastly improved compared to before.Additionally, upping my intake of Vitamin B has helped my chronic insomnia enormously. I also don't feel cold all the time, like I did before, and my craving for carbohydrates and sweets is vastly reduced."
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg315578#msg315578Nightingale: "I just went on a run today, and was surprised to feel more energized than I usually do. My fatigue didn't set in as early as it usually does. I've been taking these vitamins for over 5 weeks now. I just had an "O" yesterday accompanied with niacin. I really feel good right now."
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg5437#msg5437Daniel: "I took vitamine B pills (B1, B6 and B12). Every day one for 3 weeks...After 3 weeks I quited with the vitamine B...Then, after one or one and half week I started vitamine B again... I could get every week an orgasm without any problem. And now I can get two orgasms in two days without any problem! More orgasms induced some symptoms which disappeared during the day." [He was also taking fenugreek]
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=346.msg4279#msg4279B_Daniel: "I've been taking Kurtosis' method for roughly 6 weeks. While I was admittedly skeptical at first, the improvement to date has been significant."
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg6022#msg6022ThereIsAcure: "I stated taking the ultimate B complex ( solgar ) which also contains vit c 1000 mg.To my surprise,I felt a noticeable improvement after 2 weeks"
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg393383#msg393383romies: "my POIS is largely under control with NADH, Methyl-guard, Vit-D and Ginkgo extract"
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg407605#msg407605"I found his[kurtosis's] regime very helpful for me, with some small tweaks."
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg412093#msg412093jivetalk: "First Day, I took two B Complex, Two Ginko and Vitamin C in the morning and in the evening, second day same but in the evening accompanied this with 200mg of Niacin (where I usually take 300mg) for the evenings events. That night I O'ed twice within about 3 hours with not much noticable cognitive or fatigue affects that evening or the next day...This was almost two weeks ago, and I have since added Magnensium. I have O'ed about 5 Times since then on the same supplementation schedule (not twice in one night though), again with 90%+ effectiveness."
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg5459#msg5459Snowblind: "What works for me...2. B-vitamins (as Kurtois have already talked so much about) 3. Ginkgo Biloba (it also lowers the levels of prolactin)..."
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=612.msg6453#msg6453Egordon: "I too have noticed that although B vitamins are really effective for getting my energy, blood flow and mental function up, after about a week they begin to cause an absolutely crushing fatigue."
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=75.msg6647#msg6647Vincent M: I experienced a slight improvement of symptoms with a highly bio-available Vitamin B Complex.
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg8715#msg8715Prancer: "it's been several days now since I started taking the vitamins. They definitely seem to have a positive effect on me. What's really nice about them is I feel more rested in the morning and remember my dreams more often, and that helps a lot with my POIS symptoms. I also feel a bit more energized during the day."
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg393672#msg393672Daveman: "when I took the B-Complex daily and niacin 1 hr before, my sex was better but my POIS was worse. So I dropped the B-Complx, but just by chance, taking one pill the day after really helped my joints. Taking the B-Complex for more than 1 day didn't seem to do anything, other than perhaps to start to make it worse again."
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg8739#msg8739b_jim: "I took a good multi-vitamin for the moment (with 100% B1, B6, B12 and other ones and especially glycerophosphat magnesium, the most important).
It helps my anxiety . (100% ) It seems much more effective than B3 alone for my Pois too." [Trial duration is unclear]
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=346.msg4506#msg4506--Unsure/Unclear--
fsol:"I've now been taking Hidroxil for 2 months and my POIS symptoms are now very limited. I have no mental fatigue and my physical symptoms now only last 12 hours to one day (they used to last 2-3 days)...I take 1 tablet of Hidroxil and 2 capsules of Nature's Way fenugreek every morning. In addition to this I also take some ginseng pills, but to be honest I have no idea if either the fenugreek or the ginseng has any effect...In addition to this I've also started taking something called Focus XT" [unclear which is helping]
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=455.msg5053#msg5053urano75: He attributes some symptom relief to a B complex, but also takes a lot of other supplements and it's unclear which are actually helping.
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=81.msg8938#msg8938Over it: Experienced symptom improvement with Executive Focus, which contains B vitamins, ginkgo, and brahmi."Anyway, 3 days later and I have upped the dosage a bit as required & I?m feeling the best I have in 10 years. Orgasm is no big deal."[Trial duration is unclear]
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg393326#msg393326Romuloid Raimus: Took a full multivitamin that contained b vitamins and later said he noticed symptom improvement within hours.
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg402715#msg402715haidcat: "Basically what ive been doing is: 1. high protein 2. high multivitamin/minerals 3. high choline. Which is essentially the "Kurtosis cocktail" and its definitely reducing alot of brain fog."
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg6182#msg6182anon80: "Vitamin supplement complex really helps (someone mentioned Centrum, which also works for me), but so far I haven't tracked it to one specific Vitamin that helps"
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=81.msg4148#msg4148Starsky: "Whenever I start with a mega dose b Vitamin like b-50 or now coenyzme bcomplex i get some b vitamins deficiency symptoms like canker sores and i feel tired... I feel ok when I take no larger doses of b vitamin not more than 10mg each."
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg5907#msg5907LAPOISSE: "The problem is taking a lot of different pills, I have no idea what has an affect and what has not....I feel there is something in B complex from NowFood wich make me sick...when I take it I feel more tired than usual..."
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg7486#msg7486ve-tro79: "i tried a b complex and no effect, even 4 pills... no effect."
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=455.msg5199#msg5199sameer7777: "i was also very surprised when i bought high doses of vit b from gnc and the tablet was giving me more problems feeling more tired and stuff ..."
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg5996#msg5996Had benefit from b complex injections, which is the onlty thing that has helped him. They included b1, b6, and b12.
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1059.msg9714#msg97140002ppdnuos: "I took coenzyme-B only, and unfortunately I felt drowsy whole day. (the same thing happened when I took normal B-complex.)...I have to stop taking it." [Short trial period]
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg5652#msg5652--Didn't Help--
poisioq: "I have tried Hidroxil. took it for 10 days and the had an O but same symptoms as ever in the same time I had been taking Gingko biloba, vitamin C, and Omega3 fish oil i didn't even feel more energized during these 10 days. maybe the conzimated ones are actually more effective, but I don't feel for a while I will try anything more"
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg5542#msg5542Yaniv K.: "B complex /coenzymed vitamins, krill oil, Mg, Sodium, Ginkgo...no effect. may make things even worse."
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fidalgo: "I'm doing this diet[kurtosis regimen] for two months without any improve in my POIS symptoms..."
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg7457#msg7457Said he was taking a "Coenzyme B- complex" every morning along with some other supplements.
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg7490#msg7490